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THE OLD WAYS WORK

"pee" five times in single post.  Gotta be some kinda record?

Urine it to win it...

thanks guys. if pee is what works, that'swhat i'll do. must be some fertilizing effect there, but not one i'd use on food crops.

i think i'll try this again this yr. last time i tried it, the cutting didn't do anything. might be the clay soil we have here. it's like a water bag. 

pete, i think the kind advice above is correct. planting in late fall for spring growth is the way to go, if you are patient.

i have the opposite problem,. dead sterile sand with no earth worms for miles, si i'm doing what alan says. i've been saving up used potting soil
for 6 months. now i'm adding it into the soil  before planting anything. i usedto just scatter it randomly. now i'm concentrating it.

Hi Susie,

I have some cuttings that are doing the same thing.  They're in a shady spot in my yard in a big container with some cheap potting mix.  Last couple of weeks they started to wake up.  I keep them wet every few days.  No humidity dome.  Just cuttings in a pot.  You're right.  It does work.

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hiya, joe. what i'm curious about is why noone talks about this. i've seen a zillion posts about high tech rooting, but none about this. 

yet, a bunch of people who posted here say they've done this.

if this method is common, why isn't it mentioned? isit not sexy enow?

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Originally Posted by susieqz

if this method is common, why isn't it mentioned? isit not sexy enow?


I suspect there are several reasons, one of which for me is a pretty short growing season and the desire to get things off to an early start.
Second, waiting a few more months to start cuttings means they have to be stored longer.
Third, winter boredom, need something to do.  And this time of year, I am up to my ears in other outdoor activities - pruning, spraying, rototilling, planting, etc

I think everybody does their best to improve on methods because the cost of some of the cuttings are so far up there. If I spent $50 on 3 cuttings I would think twice about just poking them in the ground.

I figured this out last year because all my indoor "high tech" areas were full so I took the crappy looking cheap cuttings out and poked them in the ground. Bingo, they all grew and the inside ones had a mortality rate.

Same here. All the snips and piece my dogs chewed off I've been sticking in the ground and they all took.  Even little half dead twigs that I removed, I stuck in the ground and they take.    For me, this puts the fun back in figs

$50 for 3 cuttings? How about this one that went yesterday?  http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOLLY-TIGER-FIG-TREE-CUTTINGS-/161266725264?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item258c3ef190   Think the winner is going to just stick them in the ground?

ed, i get the winter boredom thing, but thatearly start isn't a problem when they leaf out at the exact same time as  the older trees are breaking dormancy.

i have to agree with soni. this is more fun for me., as opposed to all the fussing. when i grow any crop, the idea is max yield with minimum effort. this fits the bill.

tami,i don't have cost problems as i plant only unknowns, as they never have fmv. the high priced spread always does. i just prefer not eating diseased fruit n i can't afford the designer figs anyway.  i defy anyone to show me yummier figs than i already have. i have eaten my genova, HC n black triana, all purchased as clean trees or tissue cultures.

girls just wanna have fun.

I agree!  Girls just want to have fun!  I roll my eyes when members post the exact temperature, humidity, etc.  Yawn!  I love the old ways that work with no stress, no mold, no fungus gnats.  None of that!  Just little trees growing in ground as God would have it.

I do like to experiment, but if this requires measurements..... fagitaboudit!!

I will say that my cutting now rooting the rogue way in water has no roots sprouting on the window side of the glass.  Roots seem to like dark places, like Martin.  They like the dark side!

Suzi

$205???? A fool and their money!!!!

good to know, suzi. by the way, gene daniels  asked me about help in transplanting trees. he had you n me confused.
perhaps you could give him a hand?

tami, i'm still waiting for proof that expensive figs taste better. i just don't believe it.

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Originally Posted by susieqz
hiya, joe. what i'm curious about is why no one talks about this. i've seen a zillion posts about high tech rooting, but none about this. 

yet, a bunch of people who posted here say they've done this.

if this method is common, why isn't it mentioned? is it not sexy enow?

Prof. Joe puffs off on this subject:

As I sometimes tell my students it is usually about something called Occam's razor (lex parsimoniae:) that states that among competing hypotheses...or methods to grow fig cuttings,,. the one with the fewest assumptions...or least effort... should be selected.

Other, more complicated solutions, may ultimately prove best, but—in the absence of certainty—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.

Works for a lotta things besides raising fig cuttings!  :-)

Joe


For a minute there I thought you had them growing inside an old tire. Used to grow tomatoes that way!

joe, using occams razor in a way i haven't seen seems to say  inground growing is best, but doesn't answer

the question as to why this method is ignored

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Originally Posted by susieqz
joe, using occams razor in a way i haven't seen seems to say  inground growing is best, but doesn't answer

the question as to why this method is ignored


Who knows?

I suppose over time, people begin to think that the more complex solutions are better, just because they are the smarty pants solutions. They might be the best solution, but until you know for sure, I think the least complex path is best.

Joe

In a Mediterranean climate the old ways work, and I am lucky to live in that climate, but not all here do.  So, sticking a cutting in the ground in Chicago probably won't work.  You have to consider the climate where you are, and this is why we have rooting in sphagnum moss, perlite, under grow lights with warmth underneath.......  Depends on your conditions.

The old ways work here in So CA, but not so sure they work everywhere.

Suzi

i think i'll just class this as another of the official policies of this site. there are areas that people are actually frightened

to address here.

i'd be way more comfy if i could pay to use this site. i think others would find more freedom with paid memberships.

You can pay, susieqz.  Just click the donate to the figs4fun button.

I do pay through amazon, but I have payments set up monthly. 

This is off topic, so wondering why you think you would get better answers if people paid?  The topic is The Old Ways.  How did this come up?

Suzi

suzi, it looks like my new method works in any climate, indoors.

donating to the fund wouldn't free me. this is still jon's site n i feel guilty expressing my contrary views.

Your new method?  I thought this was about the old ways.  Those are all outdoors.  I missed something for sure.

Hey!  Good luck We all need luck, and don't feel bad about being rogue!

Suzi

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