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The Tricky Mammonies

Fig chasers in the Golden State (and elsewhere) may, as we speak, find in the Wild, a few nice figs behaving as if they were some unidentified main crop or summer fruit, on the axils of recent growth..
Once open, on most cases, they show more or less juicy insides automatically inviting a bite....
Be cautious.. it is advisable to have a close look first on what is inside and it's recommendable to carry a small portable lens to help.

It is not correct to say that Caprifigs are all dry and corky
There are good chances that through Summer they are nice, sweet and juicy..

But if inadvertently one eats these fruit, I am sure, nothing particular will happen as they will taste sweet and flavored as any other summer fig.. a wasp here and there are a  'bonus' !

The fig in these pictures (Code02) is a Mammoni first crop of the ongoing summer, has a lot of juicy edible pulp already with many viable seeds and a few wasps about to hatch from their gall flowers.. male wasps can also be seen. The second Mammoni crop is already forming to receive the few wasps from the present figs and grow up to around October when the winter crop is ready to accept and shelter the insect larvae through winter

These Caprifigs , Code02 and Code04 are very stable trees never failing to show their full and diverse crops year after year always at the right time. Never been irrigated and/or fertilized.

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Francisco
Portugal





Thanks for the information and pictures. I have a few,Capri fig swelling up. Red black yellow purple. Hoping to have some pollen to play with

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Originally Posted by figpig_66
Thanks for the information and pictures. I have a few,Capri fig swelling up. Red black yellow purple. Hoping to have some pollen to play with


That's good to try and make them grow in your environment
But,  whatever happens, the pollen you hope to have to play with, if you are lucky, will only show up naturally on the first crop (the Profichis) in June 2017 ! Until then there will be no caprifigs with pollen.
I wish you good luck
Francisco
Portugal

 

Thanks for the information and photos, Francisco.

I didn't now they could produce 2 crops of Mammoni.

My Code 2 graft was worrying me, because some of the figs are green and a couple of others where changing color and appear to be drying up. One has even fallen and it seemed it had worms inside (probably the mediterranean fly is the culprit, i have seen a few around).

So, i decided to protect some of the remaining caprifigs with organza bags, to keep the fly away, until they are ready to release the wasps.

I think the other red caprifig  is also going to fall because it has been less than 1 month and a half since these caprifigs where pollinated.

But seeing your photos i'm in doubt. Could they possibly be maturing? It's unlikely, i know. I think i recall you saying that they took aprox. 3 months to mature.

Probably this fig was indeed attacked by insects and they made it mature too early - the wasps can't be ready in such a short time, do they? They also take 3 months from egg to adult?

The top part of the grafted branch has a few very tiny figs appearing - could they be the second Mammoni crop you are referring to? It's probably too early for these to be Mamme.

If these are second crop Mammoni, i hope some wasps can mature in this first crop and lay some eggs on the second one, so i have a chance of keeping them here through winter.

A few weeks ago - the pollinated caprifigs:

caprifigos_Tok_Code2_Julho_23_2016.JPG 


This week:

caprifigos_Tok2_Code2_Julho_27_2016.JPG 

The small figs on the top part of the branch:

caprifigos_Tok3_Code2_Julho_27_2016.JPG 

Sorry for all the questions...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jsacadura
Thanks for the information and photos, Francisco.

I didn't now they could produce 2 crops of Mammoni.

My Code 2 graft was worrying me, because some of the figs are green and a couple of others where changing color and appear to be drying up. One has even fallen and it seemed it had worms inside (probably the mediterranean fly is the culprit, i have seen a few around).

So, i decided to protect some of the remaining caprifigs with organza bags, to keep the fly away, until they are ready to release the wasps.

I think the other red caprifig  is also going to fall because it has been less than 1 month and a half since these caprifigs where pollinated.

But seeing your photos i'm in doubt. Could they possibly be maturing? It's unlikely, i know. I think i recall you saying that they took aprox. 3 months to mature.

Probably this fig was indeed attacked by insects and they made it mature too early - the wasps can't be ready in such a short time, do they? They also take 3 months from egg to adult?

The top part of the grafted branch has a few very tiny figs appearing - could they be the second Mammoni crop you are referring to? It's probably too early for these to be Mamme.

If these are second crop Mammoni, i hope some wasps can mature in this first crop and lay some eggs on the second one, so i have a chance of keeping them here through winter.

A few weeks ago - the pollinated caprifigs:

caprifigos_Tok_Code2_Julho_23_2016.JPG 


This week:

caprifigos_Tok2_Code2_Julho_27_2016.JPG 

The small figs on the top part of the branch:

caprifigos_Tok3_Code2_Julho_27_2016.JPG 

Sorry for all the questions...


Hi Jaime,

Yes, you may have on some instances 2 Mammoni layers on the same season.. You may see that in future..on some seasons Mammonies pop up very soon and become receptive around May/June.. Under such circumstances Nature will try to warrant shelter for the insect for the long waiting period going until Mammes are receptive ( about Oct/November).
Some late 2nd crop Mammonies may keep hanging on their branches and live full of larvae through the winter.. to become ripen only on the following  March.

The fly may have brought in additional problems... bear in mind that when all goes well and once the fruit is caprified, it keeps growing healthy, green skin with more or less white dots...
A skin color change to yellowish and/or dry/brown, may indicate that caprification has failed to accomplish and a week or two after the fruit drops.
Let's wait and see if some of those still green fruit grow as we wish
Probably by the time the wasps were available, the fruit was not fully receptive.
On any caprifig crop, non-caprified fruit will become soft, change color and abort.

Depending on climate mostly , 2 to 3 months is the time required to move from wasp egg to a next generation insect. Throughout the fall/winter this process will slow down.

Francisco





Thanks for the answer, Francisco.

>>A skin color change to yellowish and/or dry/brown, may indicate that caprification has failed to accomplish and a week or two after the fruit drops.

That's what i thought. If they had failed caprification they should have fallen long ago - i went through the photos and the Profichis where brought to the graft the 26th of June, more than a month ago.

So, it doesn't seem a failed caprification. It's probably an insect problem. The fruit fly has been given me problems with my peaches and now it seems they have found the figs.

I hope they leave the other caprifigs alone. We will see how they do, during August. I will have to remove the bags if they seem to ripen to allow the wasps to escape.

Thanks again,



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