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kubota1

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Sicilian Red, Sal's Corleone, Acciano. I've had talks with another member in regards to these figs. We were thinking they were the exact same. It's hard to argue when the leaves look almost identical and the fruits, depending on the day are about the same size and shape.
I still think they are a bit different, but close enough that you wouldn't need to have them all.
Sicilian Red is the top two, Sal's Corleone is on the bottom left, and Acciano on the bottom right.
They have been getting consistently high ratings at my house.

Oh yeah, they all leak honey.

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Nice picture, thanks for taking the time to post and describe them. They look very tasty!

  Peter
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Darn, I have all three. We need to get a list going, or at least everyone out there needs to tell me what I don't need, at least I know when it comes time to downsizing. I thought that Acciano was the same as Paradiso Nero. Thanks Art. You have been very helpful to me. I am going to contact you before I purchase another plant.
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Forgot to ask, are the leaves close in characteristics?
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Wayne, LOL! You are right about the Paradiso Nero. I think it was ID'd with the wrong name. So it got changed to Acciano. I know I will keep all three of mine because my wife loves them.
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Forgot to ask, are the leaves close in characteristics?


Yes, Very similar if not the same.
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Great looking figs and thanks for that useful information!
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Thanks Art, very helpful.
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It would help confirm this if others with different climates also thought they were the same.  3 figs that look identical in 1 climate may behave differently in different climates.  Where is your friend located?
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It would help confirm this if others with different climates also thought they were the same.  3 figs that look identical in 1 climate may behave differently in different climates.  Where is your friend located?


New Mexico
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I had heard from another member who also says they're the same (or at least essentially the same).  I think he said that Aldo's is the same fig also.

Mike   central NY state
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Art,
Thanks for sharing the pictures and info.
Could you please post a few pictures of typical leaves or trees?
It would provide more info for comparisons. Thanks.
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Wayne, let me lighten your load . . . .
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Dale, when I get ready to share you will be on my list.
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First three are Acciano
Second three are Sal's Corleone
Third three are Sicilian Red

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Wow, almost identical. Thanks Art.
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Hi kubota1,
Nice figs - I would select the "Sicilian red" since it seems a bit bigger. And would replace the 2 others (Sal's corl and acciano) by that one.
@Waynea : Test them yourself . If you grow in ground - Kubota1 does in pot . You'll need more cold hardiness ... Just saying, of course...
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I was asked about Sal's Corleone and  Acciano being the same in a separate thread, up to that point I had not considered due to the fruit size difference. My Sal's Corleone is huge,  Acciano good sized but probably less than 1/2 the weight. I do see and taste similarities but I am not sure 1st year fruiting for both for me. Yours don't show the size differential mine do, so maybe I have something cultural going on different.

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Thanks JD, my Sicilian Red plant is much older and larger then the other two, so it will fruit first. They will be in ground soon so your advice is noted, thanks again.
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Wayne,

   That would be great! I was really just teasing, not fishing, but would love to get a Acciano started after several failures. (Hope Mario isn't reading this.) Acciano is the one fig Mario provided that I haven't gotten to root for  me yet. Mario is from a little village very close to my grandfather's.
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I had 3 accianos, all looked dead but one sprouted from below the surface and is growing slowly but it looks really good now. My Sicilian Red was purchased last year, before I was a member and became a genius(lol), so I almost killed it with non-draining heavy potting soil. Now I am less of a killer of cuttings, just torture a few, I up-potted the SR to 3 gallon pine fines/mix and it took off in just a few months, from a 10 in twig to 4 ft and 3 branches. Sal's is the second best grower.

Dale, contact be in the late fall, I make sneak a small air layer of acciano. unless you get one before then.
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Art, nice photos and comparative. I agree with you.

I have grown Sal's Corleone next to my Aldo's Palermo Red and they are the same. I have several starts of the Acciano fig and the leaves are similar if not the same as Sal's Corleone and Aldo's. I have yet to see Mario post detailed photos of the Acciano fig which I think is the same as the ones mentioned. It would be nice to see pics of the leaves and the fig close up. I'm suspecting that Acciano is another name for this popular variety which has many synonyms.

Bob, you are right about how figs behave in different climates. One example is the Nordland fig. I have Nordland growing next to me Longue d'Aout. There are subtle differences but I believe the two are one in the same variety. I suspect the Nordland fig adapted to a climate zone, becoming a sport of the LdA. It got passed around as a totally different variety under a different name but in reality, it is probably genetically the same as LdA. I believe that's how we got Sal's Corleone, Aldo's Palermo Red, Acciano, Sicilian Red, Pan y Vino Dark, and so many others. 
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Wayne, if I do, I'll let you know, so you can share it with someone else. I just have had no luck starting cuttings of this one.
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