Jds, sorry, I like it here, in a zone 10a! No moving in a near future :)
Dan, I will take a few photos today.
Mara, I totally agree with you, they do not quit. We may struggle to root a desirable cutting but a seed has an unmatch strength to live in this world. They grow anywhere very fast , and they lough at the gnats , they eat them for lunch themselves, lol