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Toughest To Root

Thanks Pino. but its pretty much between 75-85 during the day time and I don't want to add too much heat. When the temp gets between 80-95 I seem to get rapid leaf growth before adequate root growth. Last year, Nov-Mar 2013-2014, I rooted about 200+ with no mold problems and only lost a few and this year is much hotter outside. I switched from the bag, container, etc.. method because I lost way too many to mold and gnats, now I do not have problems with either. I use a high percentage of pine bark fines with peat & perlite. Also, I do not add humidity, our environment is this humid. I think with the plastic enclosure being so large and with air vents in several places helps prevent mold. Thanks again Pino.

Black Madeira and Figo Preto are creeping along but are rooting now.

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Originally Posted by rcantor
Now on to the topic.  Some varieties may be harder to root than others but some years produce weaker cuttings than others, some areas produce weaker cuttings (probably because of weather) and some subset of cuttings from different growers may be weaker because of cultivation practices.   A certain grower may produce cuttings with varying vigor depending on cultivation and environmental issues.  Soome cuttings mailed at certain times can get too warm inside or too cold outside or spend too much time in transit with too much or too little water.

Sometimes it's the cutting(s).

Sometimes it's the match or mismatch between the conditions supplied by the rooter and the needs of the variety and the particular cutting.  Sometimes a package might sit against a heat vent and the 3 cuttings nearest the vent become non-viable.

There are so many random unknowable factors that you have to do your best and pray.  I had one batch of cuttings one year in which none of them rooted. the batch before and the batch after did fine.  I don't know of any differences between the 3 batches but there was surely something.

All you can do is watch your water and hope for the best.   :)


As someone who's very new (like haven't even started, yet) and freaks out over the littlest things that can result in failure, I just wanted to say thanks for this. Now I know that there are so many variables that I can blame instead of myself :P

But seriously, I'm glad this thread was resurrected. I'm trying my hardest to learn everything I can and there's just so much great info on here that I have yet to read.

Some tough-fee's LSU Scott Yellow, Gypsy, I258


From bigbadbill,
"I'm glad this thread got resurrected. Most of my cuttings are nicely rooted except for one nasty variety: Bayerfeige Violetta. It has been over a month and no signs of even initials"

I'm with Bill on this one. This has been my toughest so far, still have a few more to do, but it's been 2 months and finally have some roots. No leaves yet, but a few roots.

Seems like there are some varieties that are indeed slow to root, my own experience echoes others' with B. Violeta and JH Adriatic being among the slowest, 6-8 weeks before signs of life.  Most vigorous has been ADelmato's Unk Yellow Greek- fast to throw roots and really vigorous growth; I think there's fruit buds developing too!

Hardest to root: Marseilles VS Black - Only 50% success last year

Interesting for me to see that Black Madeira repeatedly shows up as a shy rooter. I purchased several cuttings from mnedulcu on eBay (Marius) and 3 of the 4 are pushing roots after just 2.5 weeks! I think it helps that i'm keeping the cuttings in the low 70's.

I just wanted to bump this old thread, malta black was extremely stubborn to root for me last year, this year Black madeira was easy ,do you really think it is the type of fig or the amount of stored energy in the cutting received?

Everybody has their own take on this.

IMO yes and no. 
Some varieties seem slower to root. It depends more on the health and readiness of the scion to start growing.

Lignified, freshly cut, no winter damage most figs seem to start rooting quickly and buds push new growth.
Fully dormant from lengthy storage they seem to need a kick.  Rooting hormone seems to help with these.  
If they have been exposed to freezing or mold and related subsequent damage then they may root but the buds may not push growth and so it ends.

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