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Trees and cuttings update

Brown Turkey is coming around...

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Mission...

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Mary Lane Seedless...

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Kadota...

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Celeste...

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LSU Tiger taking the lead far as growth size...

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Desert King first new leaf...

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LSU Purple shows some leaf curling in the heat the last couple of days and not much growth compared to Tiger...

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First cutting roots showing are Celeste in perlite.  These were not roughed up or honey applied. No leaf showing yet...

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Celeste in compost showing leaf, roughed up, honey applied...

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 Norman's Yellow in compost showing leaf, roughed up, honey applied.  Don't know what brown spot on leaf is...

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Brown Turkey in potting soil, not roughed up, no honey applied...

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Few of the cuttings look dead but most others still have green buds.  I'll update the whole group again next week.


Looking good, Charlie.  I hope they continue to do well for you.

Charlie, nice job. My LSU Purple is five feet tall and a 4th year tree and it curls every day in the sun but
gets its act together every evening when the sun is off of it.

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Originally Posted by newnandawg
Charlie, nice job. My LSU Purple is five feet tall and a 4th year tree and it curls every day in the sun but
gets its act together every evening when the sun is off of it.


Thanks I was a bit concerned.  She's special being the runt in the beginning.  I really want her to shine for some reason. 

The brown spot is not good and although I love compost and use it in mixes for plants it is bad news for cuttings. It has poor aeration and a perched water table, high microbe population and maybe too many salts. Outside, in the pile, cuttings will root because of the natural processes that drain and aerate the pile.

Do as you like, if the experience is important to you or you think you can overcome the obstacles then give it a go. But why put all your eggs in one basket, where is your control group?

p.s. Your Desert King appears to be mislabeled.

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Originally Posted by hoosierbanana
The brown spot is not good and although I love compost and use it in mixes for plants it is bad news for cuttings. It has poor aeration and a perched water table, high microbe population and maybe too many salts. Outside, in the pile, cuttings will root because of the natural processes that drain and aerate the pile.

Do as you like, if the experience is important to you or you think you can overcome the obstacles then give it a go. But why put all your eggs in one basket, where is your control group?

p.s. Your Desert King appears to be mislabeled.


Desert King as labeled from Florida Hill Nursery.  What do you think it may be?  Should I call it something else?

Thanks for the compost advice.  No control group.  I just stuck a bunch of different cuttings in different things I had on hand at the time, before I read much.  Actually switched many of the expanded clay pellet jars out for perlite.  

Ok, if you could, please explain a little more about the honey? Thanks

Florida Hill Nursery huh, happened to me also. It is certainly one of the available options from Agristarts, although your plant looks to be a rooted cutting instead of a young TC plant (which is what FHN traditionally sells). It looks like VdB to me.

http://www.agristarts.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/plants.main/typeID/45/index.htm

Excellent results, Charlie. Congrats!

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Ok, if you could, please explain a little more about the honey? Thanks


Have used honey in the past on blackberries and on my persimmon air layers.  Has to be raw honey.  Helps keep mold away.  I just dip and smear it on the cutting as you might use a hormone gel.

Oh, thanks for the additional details. I'm always looking out for a way to keep mold at bay.

Looking good.

Lovely work Charlie :)

Hi Charlie,
Can you just remind me a bit the story of those trees or cuttings.
It is weird that your BT is only starting to leaf out now.
Your compost in the cups looks a bit wet ( over-watering ? ) . Do you use humidity chamber or greenhouse or just in open air ?

As for putting eggs in different baskets, if you're not using an humidity chamber or greenhouse - I would do it for some cuttings.
I have 3 "Dalmaties" cuttings that I started for playing ( cut top of stems in April for shaping a young tree). At some point the weather here got dry for a long period and the cuttings were unhappy out in the wild (garden and compost in a pot).
When I emptied the greenhouse (volume of one cubic meter / tomatoes pots to the open air and tomatoes in dirt) I decided to put one of the cuttings-pot in the greenhouse - reading the forum gives you ideas-, and that helped.
The second pot went later as it was still struggling, getting worse and is now doing much better .

When using compost -IMO - one should use pots and not cups as compost reacts strongly to watering and more volume is more latency so less over-watering issues -IMO- .

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Originally Posted by jdsfrance
Hi Charlie,
Can you just remind me a bit the story of those trees or cuttings.
It is weird that your BT is only starting to leaf out now.
Your compost in the cups looks a bit wet ( over-watering ? ) . Do you use humidity chamber or greenhouse or just in open air ?



BT suffered many things when it arrived.  First I buried the big pot too deep with poor draining soil mixture in my yard with water table just a few inches under the surface.  Second it had some tiny larvae hatch out and were crawling all over so I sprayed them.  

Raised the pot, bare-rooted the plant to wash away all the mud, bug spray and last but not least I had attached a couple of air-layer jars to the main trunk and one lateral limb so I pruned off the main trunk where that jar was.  

It simply shut down and dropped all its leaves.  Thought I had killed it for sure.  Reading here a lot and doing my best to follow advice given others for various things saved this tree, mostly getting the potting media well drained and up out of the mud I think.

The cuttings are in a big sterilite tote on the front porch, always shaded.  The jars were watered when doing the cuttings first and only a little misting with a spray bottle when condensate starts to disappear from the tote walls.  I fan the tote with the lid in the morning and evening.    

Florida Hill is notorious for slapping any label on any plant and shipping it out.  I would not trust them or buy from them.  

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Florida Hill is notorious for slapping any label on any plant and shipping it out.  I would not trust them or buy from them.  


Didn't know who to buy from so I ordered a few from different places.  Good to have knowing people here to keep us noobs lined out lol 

The VdB leaves purchased from Wellspring are identical to the Florida Hill Desert King so it looks like I have two VdB.  

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LSU Gold lost its only leaf and is doing nothing but I'm still optimistic. More pics of others...

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This Hardy Chicago above arrived with a pea size fig that has about tripled in size.  Going to leave it as it may be my only chance for a fresh ripe fig this year. 

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Thanks for looking and congrats if you made it this far and would like to receive a free rooted Celeste.  I'm giving two away here on f4f and will ship when it gets cooler, probably in September or October. Hershell supplied the free Celeste cuttings for me to get started and so I want to PIF. First two to reply here if you are legally able to receive and a U.S. mainland resident, claim one then PM with your address, each will get one but not both to the same person.  There will be more later.  :)  Here's a pic of them now...

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You're off and running Charlie!! Good photos. Wishing you much success. Thanks for offering up the Celeste, I have 1 already, but someone is gonna be happy. =)

Regards,
billy

I hope these do well for you.  bumping the thread for whomever would like your 2nd Celeste.  Very nice of you to offer.

Hi charlie, Things are looking very nice. If noone has claimed the 2nd celeste I would love to. My cuttings didnt root for me this year. 

Oh there were three Celeste in the pic so I'm giving three instead of two lol.  The winners are Rick (rx2), Shailesh (sppsp) and Jeff (figherder).  Congrats to you three!  We're having near 100 F heat here so I think best to wait a bit to send like I said probably September, surely by early October.

Thanks for comments.  Could see post was being viewed and was beginning to wonder if anybody wanted them lol.  

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Thank you Charlie for your great gift. Now I have to explain to the wife why I need another tree. She thought one was to much and now there will be four. Send help. HA HA HA
Make it a great day, rick

It's cooling off some I think.  Perhaps by the time I get the Priority Mail shoe boxes it will be suitable for mailing ya'll the plants.  

Received these nice plants a couple days ago from Almost Eden.  All the plants I have gotten from them just take off and keep growing as if nothing happened to them at all.

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