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Unk Pastiliere question

 During my winter ebay buying frenzy, I purchased a couple unk pastiliere cuttings that rooted and are doing great. I happened to see on an old thread that they  might require pollination.  Through searching, I havnt found a definitive answer. Living in zone 5, pollination would never happen. Does anyone have a definite yes or no  on this question?

Thanks

Yes, definitely require pollination, it is a Smyrna type.

After it has been pollinated, this is the best fig you can find period. Very vigorous , productive and super tasty.

Offer them to someone in CA.

Too bad sounds like you got a lemon.

Maybe you can send it to someone in the land of the fig wasp.  Looks like it is a nice fig there.

Also you can take this opportunity to use it as rootstock and practice your grafting skills and graft some scion from your desirable figs. 

I tasted a very early main crop fig yesterday. The other figs are still green but loaded. It was really ,really good. The foliage is beautiful too. I can't wait for more to ripen

Wow, Brian, already. Mine still need 2-3 weeks to reach the edible point.
Unfortunately, the squirrels will get them probably first since the ripe fig aroma from these is really strong.

I thought u was going to get fruit this year from it without the wasps because they were hanging on. They,are about as big as a quarter and instead of swelling they are getting soft and useless :-( its a ver productive tree and fast grower. It must have 30 figs on it. But the ate getting ready to fall off.

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Wow, Brian, already. Mine still need 2-3 weeks to reach the edible point.
Unfortunately, the squirrels will get them probably first since the ripe fig aroma from these is really strong.

Mine are similar this was just an odd ball

I looked after my Unknown Pastillier for five  (or more) years not knowing that it needs wasps. Finally I discarded it last fall. I also shared it with many who don't have wasps in their area since it was in their wishlist.
A note in the F4F varietal page description could have saved frustrations to many.

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I have a Pastilliere from Raintree nursery and this season, It does not look happy in a five gallon container. It has a few figs on it that are turning purple, but not sure if they will ripen or not. I did not see any ripen during the past three years. When I purchased it, I don't recall if the nursery said something about it being a Smyrna type fig or not and they are not selling it at this time.
I had a Celeste that was being marketed locally as a premium Celeste but unlike my other Celeste, it kept dropping its fruit. I cannot tell whether it was the way I was growing it or perhaps feeding it. I'm still hopeful and will give my Pastilliere more time before I graft it or send it to fig heaven.

Sas, RT's Pastilliere takes a few years before the tree stops dropping figs.  I have several of their Pastilliere.  Mine are pretty large size tree and are to die for good!  Birds sometimes miss them on the tree because they are so black!  At least that's my opinion.  But don't let its early life stage kill your patience.  Trust me.  It is a definite keeper.  And a fast grower too!!!

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This changes everything.Thanks Dennis.

An RT Pastilliere and Unk. Pastilliere are totally different: the leaves, vigor, taste, need for pollination. I have both.

Hi,
I have a (French) Pastiliere, and she drops most of her figs ... It could well be that even the "Pastiliere" requires the wasp. I'll let her grow for two years more, and if she keeps dropping
she'll join the compost pile... period ... Whatever Baud wrote on Pastiliere won't save her.
That may explain why people around me don't rave about Pastiliere ...
Funny unlike on the forum, they don't rave about Ronde de Bordeaux either ... Perhaps they are just too shy ... Perhaps nurseries in France like to sell useless trees (for my Zone7)... Making sales is their core business after all ...

Thanks for all the input. This is part of what makes fig growing so much more fun and interesting than other fruits. IMHO.

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Hi,
I have a (French) Pastiliere, and she drops most of her figs ... It could well be that even the "Pastiliere" requires the wasp. I'll let her grow for two years more, and if she keeps dropping
she'll join the compost pile... period ... Whatever Baud wrote on Pastiliere won't save her.
That may explain why people around me don't rave about Pastiliere ...
Funny unlike on the forum, they don't rave about Ronde de Bordeaux either ... Perhaps they are just too shy ... Perhaps nurseries in France like to sell useless trees (for my Zone7)... Making sales is their core business after all ...

jdsfrance,
Hang in there with your Pastiliere don't toss it yet. 
My Pastiliere did drop over 1/2 the main figs.  But the rest ripened and they were excellent!  
This fig out drinks my others figs so this year I up potted and I may put it in the ground.  Whatever makes it happy.  Here area couple of photos of mine;

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Chris, I had a couple of figs when the weather was good a couple of years ago,
         the first year it did drop figs but not the year after. No wasps in my area,
         in South Jersey, a zone 7.Beautiful plant even better figs.

Is it true that the Pastiliere does not require a pollinater while the Unk Pastiliere does? I think that is what I have seen.

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Yes

Got rid of my Unknown Pastiliere and the known Pastiliere some years ago. Reason -- for years they 
abort and never had a chance to sample one fig. 

Interesting report from Pino regarding his Pastiliere.

@Paul, This was the 1st year that it produced and it was suspenseful watching it drop many of the figs. 
I was very glad that it kept a few for me to taste.  From the old literature Pastiliere was widely grown in N. Italy and Japan and then S. France but it was replaced with better producing figs cultivars in most areas.
If you want to try your hand at Pastiliere again I can try an air layer for you or a cutting or 2 in the fall?

Ok my pastiliere isnt dropping all its fruit but some a soft and green while others are still hard and green. May be hope after all

A gorgeous fig!

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