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Unk Pastilliere AND guamuchil...

Picked a couple UP yesterday, awesome flavor!!!
10 out of 10 in taste, lots of seed crunch with a cherry flavor to it, thin skinned... Was gifted a small rooted cutting last year from Igor (my fig sinsei, haha...) Thanks Igor!! 
Most won't know about the guamuchil, maybe my south western neighbors in Texas, NM and AR. Pod type of fruit. It is lightly sweet with the consistency of raw cauliflower.
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That is one of the most interesting things I've ever seen.  I had no idea figs grew like that.  Please, please, please post pictures of the whole plant.

Thats not a fig in the bottom right pic. If it is .... something really wrong. I also gave unknown pastillere. Seems to be holding some of it crop. Still young sized tree

You wasp country people are gett'n on my nerves with all your fantastically gooey caprified figs!

Seriously, that looks delicious. Congratulations. Thanks for rubbing it in.  :)  

Hey, Simon! We are practically neighbors!! Im in So Cal also! And, Igor is a very generous. Very nice, beautiful fig. Love the crunch on good figs!

OT: Also, I LOVE guamuchiles! The picture you posted looks different than what i have seen...is that from your tree?

Thanks for sharing your great harvest!

I am growing the guamochil its a fast growing tree

Wow, ok you guys caught me. The bottom right pic isn't a fig, ha...

Sorry Calvin, I might not have a huge selection of fig varieties but the few I have are great because of the wasp I've learned...

Meg, this "variety" was brought here by my dad over 25 years ago as a young seedling. The tree now stands at well over 40 feet. I can tell you that seedlings are true to the mother true unlike our figs. The mother tree is still in my grandmother's coral in Jalisco, Mex, and it has to be well over 60 years old as my dad says it was huge already when he was a kid... I say "variety" only because I'm not sure they are categorized that way, my dad just knows white version and this red'ish version (red being sweeter). These are from his tree, I have my own in-ground and am working on an espalier. I't's on it's 2nd summer but no fruit yet, hopefully next year(fingers crossed).

Speedmaster, very fast growing!!! I have to trim it back almost every month to keep the espalier shape I want... I'ts interesting that you know it and I my Filipino friends recognized it also, they say it's a bit different in color though. Makes me wonder where it originated from. They grow wild in hotter areas in Mexico...

It must have been spread all over the world. We grow it because we have developed a certain liking to its taste and texture...

Way to go, Simon!
I am glad UP is way up on your list :)
It is a super fig in my book!

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I am growing the guamochil its a fast growing tree


OT: Speedmadter, this guamuchil has much different taste than the typical, I imagine. This is another topic but I am totally interested in this tree!

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Way to go, Simon!
I am glad UP is way up on your list :)
It is a super fig in my book!


Igor, so is the UP considered a mid-season fig or is it early? I am still not clear when early ends and mid begins. The same with late season????

I have never heard of Guamuchil ! Do you eat them raw?

Okay.  I just did a little Googling on the guamuchils...now that I know they're not a new type of fig ;-)

Did I read right that it's also called tamarind?  I've seen those dried in the Mexican spices section in stores.  Never tried them.  Does anyone know their growing zone?

Speedmaster:  I see you are from Oman.  My daughter and her husband just went there a couple days ago.  They're teachers.  It's a really small world.

Devisgro: Yes they are eaten raw, pick'em and eat'em just like figs...
Cheryl: Tamarind is a different fruit, very sweet and tart. It also grows like little pods but doesn't break open when ready. I'll post a pic of the tree and branches as soon as I get a chance... 

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Once again my UP is just the greatest tasting so far, I'm about to have a Preto in a couple days, maybe that will dethrone it but I don't know...
It's funny how we lose control looking for a bunch of those great tasting figs when one great tasting variety is all we need...


I agree, it's my favorite

Simon, anyone you know growing the UP in places where no wasp occurs and what the fig experience with UP is there?

I don't Tony... I would assume if they are growing it it would probably drop it's fruit...

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Simon, anyone you know growing the UP in places where no wasp occurs and what the fig experience with UP is there?

Hey Tony,   
I have Pastilliere and it positively does not require the wasp.  
I love mine so much that I planted it in ground in a choice spot.
It is an early ripener and should ripen before the Chicago figs, RdB, lattarola, FB and Florea.  It has a great taste and I luv the fluroscent dark blue skin colour and bright pulp.

Pastilliere like RdB is unifere so it does not produce breba but that just makes it that much easier to protect for winter.
Some people have said it drops some main crop figs but many common varieties also do.  I believe the dropping is dependent on grow culture and water availability since this one drinks a lot of water.

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Thank you, Simon and Pino! Looking mighty good! I have Pastilliere growing from cuttings rooted over late winter / early spring so I am hoping to see some figs next year in its first full leaf year. I was asking about the UP as I was under the impression (wrongly perhaps) that the UP was a common seedling offspring of or a related sport of Pastilliere that had enough differences as to be remarkable from Pastilliere itself....

I'm going to get in on this too. Pino, do you have Unkown Pastiliere or Pastiliere(aka Hirta)? The Pastiliere that Raintree Nursery in Washington sells is also known as Hirta in Japan which I believe has European origins. That fig is known to drop figs when younger but then be a pretty remarkable fig when older. The Unkown Pastilere is supposed to require the wasp, but that would be great if you actually do have the Unkown Pastilere.

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I'm going to get in on this too. Pino, do you have Unkown Pastiliere or Pastiliere(aka Hirta)? The Pastiliere that Raintree Nursery in Washington sells is also known as Hirta in Japan which I believe has European origins. That fig is known to drop figs when younger but then be a pretty remarkable fig when older. The Unkown Pastilere is supposed to require the wasp, but that would be great if you actually do have the Unkown Pastilere.


Calvin,  I have the Pastilliere from Baud.
 
It has a long history 1800's, some believe it is of Italian origin and was taken to Japan where the Portuguese brought it back and then it became popular in France and is now wide spread in France.  It is cold hardy and early ripening and thus I am interested in it for my cool climate z6.

Thanks for the feedback Pino. Are the leaves fuzzy?

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Calvin
I don't recall fuzzy leaves look normal on the dull side.  
Here is a photo the figs have a fuzzy glow.
Looks somewhat like the plum on grapes that rubs off as they ripen
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I was also under the impression that they were different...
My UP drops all breba, I noticed that since the start.
This is its first year in ground and it did it again, hopefully it'll stop doing that, ha!

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