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VDB or Havasu

Had one cutting of the two from the same person survive the winter rooting process and got them mixed up.

The two photos are of the same plant just a different angle to see all the leaves clearly. Any guesses?






The only difference is that the bottom fig has some red coloration to the stems.

I think you posted 2 pictures of the same plant... :)    having said that... that one doesn't look like VdB to me.

Sorry, I lead everyone astray. It is the same plant just wanted to give a couple of views of the leaves. I fixed it.

Does anyone have Havasu that can compare?

hard to tell if it's VdB or not. i mixed up all my Paradiso Broze and Nero.. i end up keeping all 5 of them to see which is which. they leaves are almost identical so i can't tell them apart.

Hi, I'm not familiar with Havasu, but it does look like some of my newly rooted VDB's juvenile leaves

What Mike is saying is that he received a Havasu and a Vdb and only 1 survived and thats what he he trying to discern which 1 is it Havasu or Vdb .

Mike , here is an mature Edible Landscaping VdB cultivar and the figs in my yard for you, im not familiar with the Havasu cultivar you mention.

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The VdB has a more 'finger-like' leaves....

so martin.. how do you prevent yourself from the eating those figs before getting to that perfect condition? other than the fact that my wife like the figs rather firm, only time i got to eat figs like that is if i miss it and don't see it till they are almost start drying up.

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a couple of small VDB's to compare

Thanks Martin and KK. Its definitely different from both of your photos and from my mature VDB. I have 4 rooted cuttings of VDB
from UCD and it is nothing like those either.
 

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I got my VDB from Gorgi about 10 or so years ago give or take


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Originally Posted by newnandawg
Thanks Martin and KK. Its definitely different from both of your photos and from my mature VDB. I have 4 rooted cuttings of VDB
from UCD and it is nothing like those either.
 

It's tough to tell with those, my 2 Havasu look completely different. And in your pics the leave in the 6 o'clock position on bottom photo and 9 o'clock position on top photo looks exactly the same as leave of the bottom plant in the 6 o'clock position in KK's pic.

I'll take some pic's of mine later and add to your post. I'm not at home now so I can't just go look and compare.

Calvin:If your Havasu look different to you(I do not have one to compare),then the main poster plant must be Violette de B,because when immature the leaves can look like those 2 pixels,and changes later into 5 lobes leaves.

It could be VdB.  The leaves are within the range of variation exhibited by VdB.  Not sure what Havasu leaves look like.

Calvin thanks. Can't wait to see what your Havasu looks like.

I guess I need to clarify a bit. My 2 Havasu look completely different from each other.  One of them is entirely single lobe leaves, the other is multi-lobed. I would never in a million years think they were the same plant when looking at them. Centurion said it's pretty common for the starts to do that however.

It appears to be Havasu, Mike.
Your's probably is too, Cal.

The leaves are often roundish when they're young, but are usually more like the one's in Mike's pic.
I have a couple in pots at that stage, as well as my in ground tree that died to the ground last winter (that's it in my avatar to the left) and is coming back.  It's already three feet tall.

I will post pics as soon as my computer tech wife can process them.  Should be up in half an hour.

Yeaaaa, I had hoped  you would say that Dave. I have five VDB's and I really wanted to have one survivor of Havasu. I will keep this
thread updated as the tree progresses.

From left to right, first three pics are of Havasu cuttings in pots from green cuttings started in early March.
Last pic is the mother tree which died back this winter.

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The leaves on mine are closer to those than any VDB pics I have seen or my own VDB's

Hey Dave, is it pretty windy there? Looks like you've got an anchor line attached to the mother.

Another this is from Vdb parent plant a very small example.
Pete is easy as there are many during season to eat at various stages of ripening on different plants.

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More Havasu leaves:

And I mis-spoke.  The larger in ground tree is the grandmother tree, not the mother tree.  I rooted a cutting from the larger tree in August and grew it indoors.  The two little potted ones in the pic were taken off that little tree in early March.

Cal, I am training for a wide multi trunked tree with nearly horizontal branches from the base.  The twine is to train the branches near horizontal.

Lots of variation in leave shape.   Here are some more pics.  (Same three trees):

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Don't think they are VdB leaves.

From VdB at USDA/UC Davis

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