Hi Martin they are in Clear cups but I covered the bottom cup with a black Plastic bag thats all I had here, they were both in soil & perlite for two months the smallest shoot I changed to Vermaculite & perlite on Tuesday and noticed still no roots. Monday I will tip the cups and see if no roots then they are going in the garbage. By the way I put them in a way where only the bottom cup is getting hit by sun the smaller shoot I took away from the window already because I noticed there was allot of moisture in there didnt want it to cook lets see how much they want me to keep them I told them both monday is judgement day.