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Violette de Solliès, Bourjassotte noire, Parisienne


Common fig, large, ripening by now, dark violet/bluish skin, red pulp, not excessively sweet, a complex mix of flavors, lightly acid, berry aromas, a delicious fruit.

Francisco

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Ah Francisco such a nice description of Violet de Sollies and hope it does the same here in our yard .
I will taste this season.
Thanks for the pictures also.

Please stick with Violette de Sollies as the main name.  We've thought for a long time that Barnisotte was a synonym, and it is a very different fig.

I take it you didn't have any problems with too much rain, given what I hear about exploding figs from Baud...

Thank you for looking at these figs

Martin,

I am sure you shall make it and yours shall taste similar.


Shah,

Good point, that one of the abundance of synonyms and the confusions it may generate. I never said that a Bourjassotte or VS was the same as a Barnissotte.
As regards to rain, what I may say categorically is that since the first days of June, not one single drop landed on my yard. Ideal for ripening figs

Francisco


Thanks, Francisco, for nice photos of a beautiful fig!

I know, but they *all* get lumped together.  One synonym connects to another, and another...Violette de Soleis-->Bourjasotte-->Barnisotte...

Francisco,
thank you for posting it is always fun to see  pictures of figs unkwon to me.Ciao,
Giuseppe

francisco, your figs are lovely as ever. hope one day i'll have a chance to visit your country to sample some of those wonderful figs.

Thank you for looking and your comments on this VS figs

Giuseppe,

Violette de Solliès should be well known over there...may be you seen it under a different  name.

Pete,

Yes, you are much welcome. But you should not eat too many !.. watch your sugars
Whatever happens, I have started to dry some squid...just in case,.If you come off season !

Francisco

Francisco,
well possible,do you know fico Gentile?My best white fig ,got this fig as a cutting from Dr.Leon e few years ago,it is breba fig only here,one of the best white fig if not the best.Ciao,
Giuseppe

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Alan, as far as a Barnissotte black and Violette de Sollies are concerned, a respected member of the community who has both, told me that these two are not the same.
In his zone, the Barnissotte black ripens one month earlier than VDS and is superior in taste.
So I was wondering about Noire de Barbentane. In his catalog, Baud claims that it is a pretty similar variety to the Bourjasotte Noire.
Another member on eBay claimed that:
Noire De Barbentane is related to Barnisotte Black but ripened earlier and got better rain tolerance.
I am now convinced that using the four names Bourjasotte Noire, Violette de Sollies, Barnissotte Noire and Parisienne to desribe the same fig is wrong.
Perhaps Bourjasotte Noire = Barnissotte Noire and Parisienne is a more general term used to describe the commercial VDS variety.
After this exercise, I am going to use these names as follows:
(Bourjasotte Noire= Barnissotte Noire)
(Parisienne= Violette de Sollies)
As far as Noire de Barbentane is concerned, depending on your zone it would be a matter of preference between this one and its cousin namely the (Bourjasotte Noire= Barnissotte Noire) .








My Violette de Sollies is little different or is it Bourjasotte Noire?
I bought it as 
Violette de Sollies.
And there is another name Brogiotto nero that it also associated with this variety.
 

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The Violette de Sollies fruit is a finalist on my list of top taste an presentation. It looks close to lampo's... I'm hoping to be able to compare it side by side to the other Synonyms including Noire de Barbentane at a later date.

  

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Here are some pics of the Brogiotto Nero i brought from Italy on my last trip.
The fruit is from the mother tree in Domaso that i took my cuttings from.
As Pen and Pike says, some say this is also the same fig as VDS.

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Rob


My VDS comes from France. Actualy I have 3 different VDS From 3 different places. One i bought from a french nursery and two are from trades I made at http://fruitiers.net/ also from french guys. I am still observing which one has the best characteristic for this variety, but these are still young plants and haven't decided yet. Till now fruits all look the same. I also have a Brogiotto Nero which I got from a Bulgarian nursery, (which was imported from Italy or so they said)  It doesn't have anything to do VDS and I think I was scammed on this one.

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My VDS comes from France. Actualy I have 3 different VDS From 3 different places. One i bought from a french nursery and two are from trades I made at http://fruitiers.net/ also from french guys. I am still observing which one has the best characteristic for this variety, but these are still young plants and haven't decided yet. Till now fruits all look the same. I also have a Brogiotto Nero which I got from a Bulgarian nursery, (which was imported from Italy or so they said)  It doesn't have anything to do VDS and I think I was scammed on this one.
the source of the Brogiotto Nero material could have been the scammers too, a way to know if a nursery is the scammer is to try more varieties from them. 


No nursery should sell plants that are not verified. I am not going to buy anything else from this nursery. If you want to give someone like that a second chance and few years later you realize you've been scammed again......it is your choice!!

Fool me once - shame on you.
Fool me twice - shame on me.

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