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Lampeira Preta (LP)  summer crop.
Being a 'member' of the San Pedro family of figs this LP summer crop requires pollination by the fig wasp to ripen its fruit.
These figs, getting full sun and growing in ground, organically fertilized show dense and very sweet and flavored crystalline pulps .

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Francisco
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This will be great fig for PNW.
Thanks

Very nice fig!
Is Lampeira Preta a prolific breba producer?  How does it compare in production to other San Pedro figs?
Just trying to decide which San Pedro's would be the best if limited in space.
Thanks

Thank you - @slavtcho and @pino for yr kind comments.

My feeling is that Lampeira Preta will not be exactly on its grounds on the PNW
It's an early breba, much prolific if well looked after and and maturing through Med like warm springs.
On the same meridian line but further South.. Yes,   I am sure it will love it.. say from the Bay area downwards.
Gary has shown very nice LP brebas on a few occasions.

Francisco


Francisco,

Last year the Profichi you sent allowed me to taste the main crop of São João Preto for the first time. I will try to find the photos and when i do i will post them here.

I don't think i had the same luck this year. The pollination hasn't gone that well as most of the figs of the varieties that need caprification are turning brown and dropping.

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Jaime,
Am sorry for that..
The same Profichis were widely used by my brother and others and did fine.  But the receiving figs were already receptive.
As said before your Smyrna maybe receptive around a month after similar cultivars in here.and that is probably too much to keep living wasps capable of performing caprification. This season the first few ripe Inch Preto pollinated by those same figs , showed up around 2 weeks ago.
Shall have to plan a most direct presentation of the Profichis to the caducous types.... an early pick say 06 AM and on the trees before noon same morning. .. to cut on all delays

Also, local Caprifigs are not much diverse as regards to early or late ripening..so choice is very limited.
Do you know the approx dates when the Contrav. figs become ready ??
May be a few wasps managed to move inside  fruit on the grounded wild codes ! Watch these plants and how the fruit develops..
Francisco

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Thank you - @slavtcho and @pino for yr kind comments.

My feeling is that Lampeira Preta will not be exactly on its grounds on the PNW
It's an early breba, much prolific if well looked after and and maturing through Med like warm springs.
On the same meridian line but further South.. Yes,   I am sure it will love it.. say from the Bay area downwards.
Gary has shown very nice LP brebas on a few occasions.

Francisco




Yes PNW springs are not at all warm but we have reasonably warm summers. So possibly LP brebas will ripen in summer here just like DK.
One question: does it split in rainy weather? 

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Yes PNW springs are not at all warm but we have reasonably warm summers. So possibly LP brebas will ripen in summer here just like DK.
One question: does it split in rainy weather? 


Through the ripening process and until it's ready to pick LP is a true ´closed eye' breba.
But the local weather is rather dry and rains very scarce. - 1 day rain for June and 0.5 inch- .

On your environment, it will be subject to far more humidity.. may be as it would ripen later.. perhaps early/mid July,  it safely matures fine .
But the best would be a real test !

Francisco

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Through the ripening process and until it's ready to pick LP is a true ´closed eye' breba.
But the local weather is rather dry and rains very scarce. - 1 day rain for June and 0.5 inch- .

On your environment, it will be subject to far more humidity.. may be as it would ripen later.. perhaps early/mid July,  it safely matures fine .
But the best would be a real test !

Francisco


Francisco, We have extremely dry summers unlike the rest of the year.  Between June 15 and Sept1 last year we got 0.5" of rain! It is roughly similar each year.  Usually even Sept and early October are quite dry.
LP might be very interesting to try here.
Do you know how many growing degree days you get from beginning of the year until LP ripens? I have estimated that DK requires around 1500 or so GDD (in Fahrenheit) to ripen. That puts us roughly into late July.





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Francisco, We have extremely dry summers unlike the rest of the year.  Between June 15 and Sept1 last year we got 0.5" of rain! It is roughly similar each year.  Usually even Sept and early October are quite dry.
LP might be very interesting to try here.
Do you know how many growing degree days you get from beginning of the year until LP ripens? I have estimated that DK requires around 1500 or so GDD (in Fahrenheit) to ripen. That puts us roughly into late July.



I am not aware of that GDD number for LP
How do you build it.. what parameters involved ? you may have a formula..no ?
Thanks
Francisco

Francisco,
Here is a link on Growing Degree Days: http://wine.wsu.edu/research-extension/weather/growing-degree-days/
This particular link refers to wine but it is applied to lots of things: apples, corn, tomatoes etc.

It is somewhat complicated to calculate GDD unless you have a spreadsheet with temperatures for all days in a year. But this website makes things very easy (atleast in most cities in US and Canada and even some major cities across the world)

http://www.wunderground.com. Enter the name of a city.  Click on history and then the "custom" tab.  Enter your begin and end dates. You can get historical temperatures, rainfall as well as a host of other values (including Growing Degree Days) for that location.

I have found this to be a very useful way to compare fruiting crop timelines across locations in the world.

Regards,
--Ram

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Francisco,
Here is a link on Growing Degree Days: http://wine.wsu.edu/research-extension/weather/growing-degree-days/
This particular link refers to wine but it is applied to lots of things: apples, corn, tomatoes etc.

It is somewhat complicated to calculate GDD unless you have a spreadsheet with temperatures for all days in a year. But this website makes things very easy (atleast in most cities in US and Canada and even some major cities across the world)

http://www.wunderground.com. Enter the name of a city.  Click on history and then the "custom" tab.  Enter your begin and end dates. You can get historical temperatures, rainfall as well as a host of other values (including Growing Degree Days) for that location.

I have found this to be a very useful way to compare fruiting crop timelines across locations in the world.

Regards,
--Ram


Thank you Ram for making some light on that  GDD figure
Once I found a spare moment I shall try and work out some arithmetics
cheers
Francisco



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