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This question is for Martin or any other fig expert that can tell me if these twigs are ready to transplant into soil?Thanks and God Bless.
Robert

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Hey Robert

I'm rooting about 20 varieties in water.

All but one have that on it. I would wait until you see an actual root like below.


Ok thank you.

I put it in a 16 oz cup about 4 days ago with 70/30 perlite/seed starter mix. The root is now starting wrap around the the outside of the cup.

I took another like yours and put it horizontally in the same soil mix at the same time and it is now putting out roots, with known seen 5 days ago.

I'm new to this but what ever I'm doing is working so far.

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Dominick

Zone6a-MA

Yes Rob,

Please do root those cuttings into some potting soil container, asap.

Hey Rob looks like there doing good so far.
Good Luck.

Gorgi

I have about 50 or so that look like below. I thought I should wait until I saw a root emerging before potting. My understanding was that this was precursors to actual roots. Otherwise I have alot of work ahead of me!




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Dominick
Zone 6a-MA

Hey Dominck those pointy things (roots) are coming along well .
Best Luck to you as well.

Now I feel like a dummy! Not that it takes much. They all have this!

I read too much into what I was seeing then.

Good old fashioned MA well water-good for figs, bad for pizza!

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Dominick
zone 6a-MA

nypd5229 /rob0520
How long did you both have the cuttings in the water?

I had my 1st batch in about 5 weeks before an actual root shot out.

My others were in about 4 weeks with the white substance showing.

Hi Dominick,

How often do you change the water and if they're in water, do you still have to put plastic over the tops of the cuttings, or keep them in a box?

Thanks,

noss

Hi Ottawan,
My cuttings have been in the water for little over than a month now.Noss I usually change the water every three days or so and no you don't have to cover the cuttings with anything just stick them in water.

Hey Noss

I change the water when it starts to look stagnant or dirty, keeping them on a counter or in a open bin to the side. I do not put anything over it but the  room is small and a space heater keeps it at 75 to 80.

I potted everything up that had a ton of that stuff on it and see if true roots emerge in 70/30 perlite/mix.

The actual temp in the plastic bins when I transfered the cups and cuttings is about 70 to 72 and humidity is about 90%.

The moisture in the cups is just enough to see condensation on the inside

So far. So good.

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Dominick
Zone 6a-MA

What I see are not root initials.

They are some sort of bark-splitting.
First they start as fluffy-white and then later turn to ugly brown.
Apart from in-water, I also seen it happening in-bags.
For some reason, cuttings sometimes behave differently.
Rooting in water is not my norm; but I did a few with some
success, some developed roots above the water surface while
others below/in the water.  Al, from the other FF, says that
roots in water are different from roots in soil - like starting over again.

Also, remove that figlet from the cutting - it just sucks energy away from the twig.

I had a Byadi with those on it and I put it in the soil mix.

5 days later they were dried up but there was a 1 inch root coming out the bottom.

There is so much info out there on rooting, that the only way  for me to find out what works is to experiment.

Being new, all the info is confusing at times, but it helps alot.

Thanks
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Dominick
Zone 6a-MA

Gorgi I listened to you potted these bad boy's up and took off the fig that was on the cutting.Thanks for your help.

Here is something that may or may not help. Tapla explains white fluffy stuff that appears on the bark . Scroll down to post 2 and 4 and also the links in the thread itself to see pictures.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg0219043917735.html

As a note i have seen the roots emerge from little white bumps but not always as sometimes they turn brown -   not making the proper connection like Tapla mentions in thread here below his words
 
"If they are in close proximity to vascular bundles, they make a connection and continue developing."
 
My words below
 
I have seen roots form though coming out the middle of those white things many times and many times have seen the white things turn brown before and nothing happens afterwards.
 
Also i have as many seen roots come out of the bootm of scion at the callous part and no white bumps where observed at all at that point of root formation at least not with my eyes.

Thanks, Dominick.

noss

Plant roots will actually "FUNCTIONALLY ADAPT" to the environment in which it develops and grows. There are tap roots, air roots, water roots, and feeder roots. Plants will develop normal tap roots and feeder roots when they are planted in the ground or in potting "soil". Plants develop water roots when grown Hydroponically. Plants develop air roots when grown Aeroponically.

99.9 %  of fig trees are propagated by cuttings so they do not have tap roots. Only fig trees that are "propagated by seeds" will have tap roots. Fig trees that grew from seed have tap roots, fig that were propagated by cutting do not have tap roots.

Cuttings rooting in water will develop "water roots". Cuttings rooting in baggies will develop "air roots". Cuttings growing in nutrient rich soil will develop "feeder roots". These root types are not the same. When you move them from one environment to another the roots must again FUNCTIONALLY ADAPT itself to its new environment.

When rooting in water, it is best to move it into a rooting mix in cups as soon as you see a tiny root emerge. To wait any longer drains the energy reserves from your cuttings because that water root will have to change its job function when you move it to a new type environment. 

When rooting in a baggie, it is similarly best to move it into a rooting mix in cups as soon as you see a tiny root emerge from the cutting.

Dan 

Thanks for the science behind what I am seeing

Dominick

I am rooting 6 of my recent cuttings in water vs 6 in newspaper/ziplock.
All 6 in the ziplock have strong roots or starting to form strong roots at the ends of the cutting (plus somewhere around 15-25 other cuttings in ziplocks i started this winter have had good luck with ziplocks too).
A couple in the water started to form their leaves much earlier than ziplocks so I was excited, but it was really hard to get roots to grow. Those 2 cuttings formed many initials in the middle of the cutting but hard for them to push a longer root over past 2 weeks. The cuttings I was worried would start to rot in the water as the bark starts to strip at the bottom, so once the initials formed I am putting them in a plastic cup with holes, with perlite and put some moisture and gonna see what happens

Anyway, personally Im having way more luck with the newspaper/ziplocks-to-cup, vs direct-to-cup and water-rooting.

Water rooting is how I rooted alllll my ficgs this year. I have had success with all this way, they rooted beautifully, keep water cleaned, change water every couple days, but I use Rain water collected in containers and stored, rainwater is WONDERFUL for rooting figs twigs. some potted up even when just had the white fluff stuff but I knew there is where the figs roots come , they rooted well in the soil, never cover them or anything. I had much fun with rain water this fall. It works wonderfull. Ciao 

Maggie, No rain water here but plenty of snow to melt and use! 

I used tap water and now I have big fat roots in the soil mix coming. Not on all yet mind you. Snow melt was a pain for me but in theory the same as rain.

Dominick
Zone 6a-MA

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