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Originally Posted by bullet08
when we have plenty to eat, we can pick and choose. we can say "let them eat cake". but some of those who are already dying do not have that choice. progress in human manipulation has gone on for 1000s of yrs. GMO as it is currently is a way to profit at the cost of the rest, but this can lead to something different in future. how we "control" it will either save us or finish us off. blindly labeling it as poison won't help. blindingly letting is go on won't help either.
I'm not blindly labeling anything. The current purpose of GMOs is to sell more round up and other herbicides and pesticides. Those are what I labeled poisons. Although if you look at the Serolini (http://www.naturalnews.com/037249_gmo_study_cancer_tumors_organ_damage.html) GMO corn is poisonous to those that consume it.
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but if they can manipulate the genes to increase the yield, that will help in saving live but not saving the planet. so choose your "less of an evil".
Well if you destroy the planet are you saving lives or just making more to kill later? No GMO crops have been released that increase yield. Zero. That's in the 20 years since they first released GMO crops.
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i bet you have a car. i remember back in college.. bunch of health freaks screaming on the main drag that cigarette smoke is poison while they are breathing in 100 times more smoke from passing cars. of course half of them were known pot heads too. oh.. other half were "i only smoke when i'm drinking so i'm not a smoker".
This has nothing to do with the discussion so I don't feel the need to defend or attack car drivers, smokers, or potheads right now.
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bottom line. do i know GMO is not something i want? yes. i know that. would i prevent GMO from being shipped oversea to people who are starving? or help those who needs to eat? i won't.
That's not part of the discussion either. Would I burn a crop of GMOs rather than feed the hungry? Of course not, but GMOs aren't being shipped over seas to feed the hungry. They're being imported and put into processed foods to make americans fatter and sicker so they can support our largest industry/ source of revenue, the medical pharmaceutical industrial complex.
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people have this strange idea that things are black and white. abortion is a good example. do i support abortion? no. i don't. will i prevent abortion on a woman? i won't. it's not my body. she has her right to do what she needs to do to her body and what is in that body. sure, argue that the baby is a new life. but what's the chance of that baby surviving outside of the woman's body without modern medical support? will i pay for it? no. if woman wants to have an abortion, get her own money to do it. it was rape or incest? not my fault that she wasn't packing .45 to shoot the bastard.
What if she was packing a 45 and it jammed? Or he caught her off guard. I don't really care about your answers to these questions. You've gone off on a lot of tangents here and made a lot of assumptions. No one said things were black and white. No one was doing anything blindly.
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if this offended anyone, sorry.. just not having a good day. didn't mean to vomit all over the forum :)
I'm certainly not offended and I hope you're not offended by any of my posts. I wish I knew a nicer way to say it but you sound frustrated with the situation and overwhelmed by the effort required. Like I said earlier, a lot of the work has been done for you and it isn't that difficult to find it. The difficult part is making sure you don't give money to the people/ entities that are violating your environment.
I hope your day gets much better.