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what's the reason for waiting for root initial before moving..

Daygrower ,
If you get a chance, it would be great to see pictures of your mist propagation set up as well.

Its just a little mobile system but here it is

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Daygrower ,
I don't recognize that particular mist nozzle. What brand ?
Spacing between nozzles ?
Looks like a great system.
Thanks for posting pics.

I really don't know the brand I searched though the different ones they had at the irrigation supply house and that one looked best for my application.
spacing is about 2ft the whole thing is 9ft long I think
I am sorry I don't really have details I have built so many different mist and fog systems that Now I just put stuff together no plan and no measuring its not very scientific but it will do the job.
If anyone is interested in getting information on any of the parts used I can find out and I do believe the nozzles were about five cents each they came in half and full circle and the original application was chicken house cooling.

Jim ,
Thanks for the info.
I'll see what Rain-Flo irrigation in PA has for mist nozzles or
check with local irrigation supply up here in NH.
I've had very poor luck with summer cuttings so far that is why I want to
look into this possibility.
Kerry

The picture of the set up I have posted, was actually part of an experiment to try rooting FIG LEAVES. That's right........leaves/stems only (no wood).......you can see them rolled up in the photo and sitting under the mister. Some Cjauns believe that they can root anything!!

Several leaves actually formed roots......but, they never progressed any further than that. In one pictrre you can see a "rooted leaf" that was actually potted up in a trade gallon pot that is on the workbench.

Dan
Semper Fi-cus

Crotons are the same way people have tried rooting leaves for years they get all excited when they see roots but there is no meristem to initiate a new plant.
Kerry - I would be happy to send you a bag of the misters if you can't locate them locally they weigh nothing so shipping should be cheap.

I was checking the cuttings in peat pot today. I found 1/4 inch root initial on top of the soil on one of unknown Israeli red. This cutting had very small root when it went into the peat pot method of Dan. Either the condition in mini green house agree with cuttings or soil mix is aiding on root forming in some way other than just water or baggie method provides. I think. Other cuttings left in the bag and water do not have root this long yet.

Pete

Thank you for the offer Jim , but I've located a few nozzles in some old irrigation supplies I have.
I think this will be a Winter project in preparation for next season as it is probably too late to do any mist propagation of cuttings up here in NH.
Very glad to have the info though.
Thanks,
Kerry

Jason and Dan, thanks for the very concise information. I am looking to improve my success rate, and all this was very helpful. Is it necessary to rinse the cuttings after the soak in the 10% bleach solution?

Let the cuttings "air dry" after the 10% bleach wash.......this will leave a tiny bit of bleach residue on the cutting......which is helpful and not harmful.

Dan
Semper Fi-cus

i'm putting all my cuttings that does not have root initials into the peat pot this weekend. from what i have been observing, the ones in the peat pot are reacting to the condition much better than ones in the bag or water.

if it works, great.. if not.. i still have few that has visible root forming in the peat pot already. well.. not to the outside of the peat pot, but on the surface of the soil.

pete

little update.

one of the cutting is keep getting mold even after scrub with antibacterial soap and soak in the bleach solution. i finally got fed up and threw that away.

the ones without root initial in the bag and water went into peat pot. believe it or not, now they have 1/8 inch roots after 1 day in the peat pot. one of them are putting out bud.

i'm not sure if staying in the bag/water did something to root faster, or if the soil on the peat pot is helping to root. next time i get cuttings, they will get cleaned and go straight into peat pot for test.

also noticed that clean cut cuttings get less mold. if the cut on the place where the cuttings were taken is jagged, it will get more mold. i cut off all the cuttings that didn't have clean cut to give them nice flat cut.

test cutting from rafed which was not unknown israeli red is very close to going over to 1g pot after 2 weeks in peat pot.

pete

p.s. one thing i tried to do with dan's peat pot method after thinking about it is to make sure the soil in the peat pot and soil under it are touching each other before better water control. sort of like two pot thing.


does scoring the end of the cutting with a knife help with rooting...I've been told it helps, but I'm afraid to try it.

i don't score the cutting for rooting. i do score and scrap the bark when i'm doing air layer. i'm sure it will help, but i had some issues with damaged bark in cutting starting to rot and peel away with some cuttings.

From my experience where the bottom of the scion is cut will help trigger roots.  When my scion is cut just below a node, the cutting appears to put out roots at the bottom and much quicker.  When there is a bit extended below it seems to take a bit longer and roots seem to be random if they appear at all.  Though this is not technically correct, the small dots around each node seem to be where the thickest roots emerge on root initial. If cut just below the node and the dots are present, roots seem to come out of these depressions/marks.

Its an interesting dynamic.  I have a few cuttings from a member that were nice and big but the scion was cut in-between two nodes.  The cutting is having a hard time putting out roots.  Another cutting from the variety is potted up already and it was cut just below the node.

Food for thought.

typically when i get cuttings, i will trim them to meet my need. i noticed the same thing that dominick noticed. i usually cut right below the node at the bottom and i leave about 1/2" above the node on top. i'm afraid that if i cut too close to the node on top, that will weaken the new branch coming out.

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