not just the weather. counting fig wasp, cheap land, affordable houses, cheap water... where is the fig heaven in US?

You're going to have to trade some things.

Fig Wasp, pretty much only CA.

Cheap land and stuff is more like Detroit. You can get a house for $40. Wouldn't call it paradise.

Affordable houses are not found where the fig wasp is, or the "paradisical" climates. Warm place are more expensive, but no snow tires, galoshes, mud boots, snow boots, snow blower, heated driveways, heavy coats, ginormous heating bills, etc.

If it is cheap it is because it is not paradise.

Madera, CA for the USA.

I would think Madera California which is 15 minutes north of Fresno. It still has orchards of Fig Trees. I have not went into the countryside to look for them. The Housing is cheap, It gets Hot 100+- during the Summer and its a dry heat, low humidity. It should have the Fig Wasp. In the winter it can get down to 20 degrees for a week, but normally it is around 38 degrees in the early morning and the high around 55 degrees.

Fresno ca.

Me and Harvey Posted at the Same Time...LOL  Great Minds think alike.   Housing is a lot cheaper in Madera. Fresno can be cheap in some areas. If I had a choice, I would live in Fresno, because it is a good size city, and if you don't have a car, there is a grocery store nearby.

Jon is correct.  You will give up something if you want cheap.  Riverside, Orange, Los Angeles and San Diego Counties have the Mediterranean climate you need for perfect fig heaven.  Within each county are different sizes of towns, agricultural areas, and dozens of micro climates. 

No matter what town or city, you will have your good side and bad side.  Property subject to gang invasions will be cheaper, but figs will still grow.  Property that is just county property, unincorporated and not in a town or city, will be cheaper, but you might be on septic, propane, might need to dig a well, and have a long drive to the grocery or gas.

A good realtor will help you find what you want.  Trulia.com and Zillow.com list dozens of properties, but many of those have expired long ago.  I use keller williams just to check property values in MY town.  All their listings are current.  Good search engine for all parts of the country.

But you already knew that.......... :-))

Suzi

Pete.
Stay where you are, build a big enough greenhouse, mail-order figs wasps. Your very own little paradise. It could work..........

This part of KY is one of the cheapest places to buy/own/rent property. Used cars are the cheapest I've seen anywhere. Generally, overall low cost of living here. Just have to "build" your own piece of paradise in the back yard. That's my plan anyway :-)) . 

bill, 

that sounds like a plan. it's hot enough here.. just little on humid side on occasions. 

Harvey is right, Madera is the center of fig production in California. But it is pretty hot and dry in the summer. Part of the trade-off.

Argentina. Their currency is, well... they'd rather have your dollars right now. Saw a 45 acre vineyard and farm, ready to go, 80k. Beautiful Andes as the backdrop. Foreigners can buy and it takes 2 years residency for citizenship. Argentina is known for accepting immigration demographics from all over the globe. Beef, beauties, and easy British citizenship from there.

ah.. argentina.. best beef in south america that will melt in your mouth. most of my friends back in nyc were from asuncion, paraguay. they would talk about great steaks at dirt cheap price that you can eat as much as you want. 

a friend of mine lives in south california. he gets volunteer figs in his garden from bird poo.

if you are rich that's the place to be.

i looked at property costs there. then i looked at taxes. i'd starve.

I'm not sure, Rafed, seems like about 60+ percent of Detroiters have voted with their feet.

My mother left detroit in the early 40s to work in an aircraft plant in LA as a mathematician and never went home. Father, from Illinois, mustered out in Long Beach and never went home. They too the train to Detroit to get married in 1946, got in their car, and drove back to California, and visited only 2 days in the next 60 years.

Oh, my mother's childhood toboggan is still in the rafters of my garage. Need to put some wheels on it.

Jon,

You might be right about the voting part.

But you got to admit at least we don't have to put square blocks in the squares or the circle blocks in the circle. Seems that's how they do it in Cali.


On the other note.
Your parents left long time ago. This 2014.

Nice try;)

I wouldn't trade Michigan for anything.

See?  It goes back to High School!  I am a native Californian.  Born and Bred!  I would never leave!  And although figs are easy here, I do have zone envy.  Can't grow cherries!  Can't grow anything with high chill requirements.  So, it's just equal, right?

Can you grow gorgeous roses?  I can!!  LOL!!

Suzi

Suzi,

A sample of my roses.
Yes, here in Michigan.

for a while I was checking Fallbrook, California...But it is so far from New York...
May be down the east coast
Mark

Jeeze Rafed!  You are a master at container gardening!  How did you get that climber in a container? 

Suzi

The climber and most of the other roses are in the ground.
I have three in containers.

My other climber,

OK!  You win!  Show us your in-ground figs!
Suzi

This is fun!  I'm cheering for the Anaheim Ducks Hockey in that outside game at Dodger Stadium against the LA Kings.

I have two in ground figs. Not good at the moment.

Dude!  You rock!!  I was just thinking roses only do well in So CA!  You proved me wrong!  Take care of my baby!  I'm going to treat her well!

Suzi