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Where should I plant this tree?

I thought I had my mind made up, but now I am not so sure.  I was thinking about planting it on the south facing wall of my house.  I am kind of worried about it being too big at some point, but maybe I shouldn't worry about that. I think everyone who has offered a guess thinks this is a Brunswick fig and it is TINY. In another thread, I talked about how I thought it (and the other) was dead, but it has leafy growth from a bud right at soil level.The main trunk is only about 4 or 5 inches tall. Sorry. I kept looking for something that was unmistakeably green. So, not sure what to do now. I guess it is small enough that if I put it somewhere and want to move it later, I can do that. I guess it can also be pruned back if it gets in my way. I have toyed with the idea of espalier, but maybe I can try that later. Maybe this is one I should just stick in the ground and let it do what it wants. The mother tree was over 8 feet tall and probably as wide, with nobody doing anything to it, and it was at the end of the driveway, with no houses very near it. This was a sucker. So, I guess they do okay without having any kind of a windbreak.

you should reserve south facing wall for something special :) Brunswick isn't all that special... unless this tree has some special meaning to you.

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you should reserve south facing wall for something special :) Brunswick isn't all that special... unless this tree has some special meaning to you.

what Pete said, especially if you are in a colder zone. (need to let us know)
Also. a year or two in a pot before you put in ground will help it survive colder weather better as well.

Now, my Kurdish friends said this was a tasty fig! I am in what they are now calling zone 7, I think. Nashville, Tennessee. This isn't my first fig.... I killed a Black Mission fig that I had in a pot a few years ago. I think I'll let this one take it's chances in the ground, but I will wrap it up for the winter.

I don't understand why so many people don't like Brunswick...I guess they just have better varieties available to them. I liked it because it looked like a tough, productive plant. The fruits were so much bigger than the other variety, which we think is a Celeste. I think they tasted about the same. I am not a fig aficionado. I want something I don't have to coddle too much. I want something that is productive. I think this is the most special plant I will have in my yard this year, so I guess I'll let it have the south wall for now. My long term plans for that wall include having a small lean-to greenhouse, but that may never be in the budget.

Is Violette de Bordeaux special?

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Is Violette de Bordeaux special?


To me "yes" it's a very good fig and some would consider it a "boutique" variety.

I saw a picture of Violette de Bordeaux and it was sooo pretty!

There are so many varieties of figs and their flavor quality varies depending on where they are grown.  Some taste like berry jam, others like nuts and honey, others just figgy rich, and the list goes on.  Me?  I don't want steak every night.  Sometimes I like chicken or fish or pork, salads, or casseroles.  I think variety is the spice of life, and my goal is to own a few figs representing all the flavor groups and colors.  Melting pot in my yard!

Suzi

The Brunswick is exactly what you said you wanted..a production fig.  It was grown in Southeast Texas in hundreds of acres of production orchards.  The fig business left Texas and the orchards were abandoned and eventually displaced with subdivisions.  As Rich said there are "boutique" figs that many hold quite dear and slobber over the thought of a well ripened Maltese Falcon, or the heavenly thought of a well ripened RdB.  Each to their own, Suzi stated it quite well, we don't want steak for every meal, some times a brisket will absolutely taste better.  Each to their own is actually a well fitting term when it comes to selection of fig types.  I am one of the wackos that could care less about the name, type, or pedigree of anything.  I like what I like, and I really can't tell you why I like anything other than somethings have qualities that resonate with my eyes, taste buds, sense of smell, or whatever.

Explore the options, make your decisions, go for it.

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The Brunswick is exactly what you said you wanted..a production fig.  It was grown in Southeast Texas in hundreds of acres of production orchards.  The fig business left Texas and the orchards were abandoned and eventually displaced with subdivisions.  As Rich said there are "boutique" figs that many hold quite dear and slobber over the thought of a well ripened Maltese Falcon, or the heavenly thought of a well ripened RdB.  Each to their own, Suzi stated it quite well, we don't want steak for every meal, some times a brisket will absolutely taste better.  Each to their own is actually a well fitting term when it comes to selection of fig types.  I am one of the wackos that could care less about the name, type, or pedigree of anything.  I like what I like, and I really can't tell you why I like anything other than somethings have qualities that resonate with my eyes, taste buds, sense of smell, or whatever.

Explore the options, make your decisions, go for it.


Brisket! steak ! I'm in !

i don't know what the weather is like where you are. but if what i think of TN is right, that place isn't exactly hot and dry. if that is the case, choosing a good fig isn't too easy. VdB is readily available from nurseries. i wouldn't exactly call it boutique fig. VdB in hot and relatively dry yr, it's very good. if you have little too much rain, it bleeds flavor. per herman, Nero 600M is much superior. 

the idea of good production isn't bad. but some of the figs require matching climate to produce large quantity of good figs. if the climate doesn't match the fig, you will have large quantity of... well... lame figs. if Brunswick does well in your climate, you are in luck.

i'm on the other side as far as choosing figs is concerned. quality overrides quantity for me. i would rather have 10 or less of lip smacking figs then 100 that i wouldnt feed to my dogs. that's why i have nearly 100 fig trees. 10 from each tree adds up quick.

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There are so many varieties of figs and their flavor quality varies depending on where they are grown.  Some taste like berry jam, others like nuts and honey, others just figgy rich, and the list goes on.  Me?  I don't want steak every night.  Sometimes I like chicken or fish or pork, salads, or casseroles.  I think variety is the spice of life, and my goal is to own a few figs representing all the flavor groups and colors.  Melting pot in my yard!

Suzi


Sounds great! I just know and love fig newtons and some dried figs, LOL. I am developing my appreciation for fresh figs and different varieties. I guess I first saw a fig tree at Monticello many years ago and it seemed so exotic. Last August I drove by the same house I had been driving by for years without noticing the big fig tree in the yard and it was LOADED with figs. Then I started seeing them here and there, but none were as magnificent as that one that all but jumped out at me! I live in a suburb of Nashville that has a HUGE Kurdish population, and Kurds love figs and fig preserves. I'm not so crazy about fig preserves, but I can learn to love it. If I ever get a lot, I will probably dry them. I love dried fruit.

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I like what I like, and I really can't tell you why I like anything other than somethings have qualities that resonate with my eyes, taste buds, sense of smell, or whatever.

Explore the options, make your decisions, go for it.


You sound like me....I like what I like, but I should probably explore some options.

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i don't know what the weather is like where you are. but if what i think of TN is right, that place isn't exactly hot and dry. if that is the case, choosing a good fig isn't too easy. VdB is readily available from nurseries. i wouldn't exactly call it boutique fig. VdB in hot and relatively dry yr, it's very good. if you have little too much rain, it bleeds flavor. per herman, Nero 600M is much superior. 

the idea of good production isn't bad. but some of the figs require matching climate to produce large quantity of good figs. if the climate doesn't match the fig, you will have large quantity of... well... lame figs. if Brunswick does well in your climate, you are in luck.

i'm on the other side as far as choosing figs is concerned. quality overrides quantity for me. i would rather have 10 or less of lip smacking figs then 100 that i wouldnt feed to my dogs. that's why i have nearly 100 fig trees. 10 from each tree adds up quick.


July and August are typically pretty hot and dry. Not Texas hot and dry, but pretty hot and dry. The mother tree I got these from, and also the other variety...probably a Celeste...that was in that same yard (I think there were 5 or 6 "bushes" all together of these 2 varieties) looked amazingly healthy and the figs were beautiful. I liked this Brunswick because the fruits were SO much bigger than the other and I couldn't tell much difference in taste.  I haven't got a ton of room for many fig trees. I think I will max out at 3 or 4. I have eaten Black Mission and Brown Turkey figs, fresh. Whole foods had some last year and I got a few. They were not nearly as big as this one I am holding. They were more the size of the Celeste (or what I think is Celeste) and I really couldn't tell a big difference in the taste of any of them.  fig in hand.jpg  figs and leaves.jpg


big is not always better. when you get a chance to go to a fig tasting, try few different figs. i'm pretty sure you'll change your mind.

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Originally Posted by bullet08
big is not always better. when you get a chance to go to a fig tasting, try few different figs. i'm pretty sure you'll change your mind.


What is your opinion of Black Mission, Brown Turkey, and Celeste?

I have that opinion about strawberries...I'd rather have a small, succulent one than a big, pretty, tasteless one.  Maybe all these figs I have tried are the less tasty varieties.

Size of the fruit isn't my only consideration. I've got to have something hardy. Maybe I can track down some fig lovers here in the Nashville area and we can have a "fig tasting,"

Hi tnmom66,
Well, how long is your wall :) ? You can probably put 3 or 4 trees along that wall or 10 or 20 trees...
I think you helped me identify one of my unknown... She is Brunswick ... That's good . I should be able to see and taste some figs from that tree this year !

Give a chance to that tree, and you'll see in 5 years what you think of it.
Figs need sun, and  I just read that you have some .

I always advise people starting figging to start with 3 or 4 trees of different strains, so that one can taste and compare tastes in between the strains ...
As for bought figs, you can't really compare a shopped fig from a homegrown fig .
The well known problem with figs is that they don't last long once ripe ! They are not apples !
So try BT on your own, and you may be surprised !
Take photos of your tree... You'll see how funny it is to see how they grew !

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Hi tnmom66,
Well, how long is your wall :) ? You can probably put 3 or 4 trees along that wall or 10 or 20 trees...
I think you helped me identify one of my unknown... She is Brunswick ... That's good . I should be able to see and taste some figs from that tree this year !

Give a chance to that tree, and you'll see in 5 years what you think of it.
Figs need sun, and  I just read that you have some .

I always advise people starting figging to start with 3 or 4 trees of different strains, so that one can taste and compare tastes in between the strains ...
As for bought figs, you can't really compare a shopped fig from a homegrown fig .
The well known problem with figs is that they don't last long once ripe ! They are not apples !
So try BT on your own, and you may be surprised !
Take photos of your tree... You'll see how funny it is to see how they grew !


The wall is long, but I have a garage door, my hvac unit and 2 exterior doors. The stretch I"m thinking about is probably 10 or 12 feet. I know figs CAN spread bigger than that, but I guess they can be kept within bounds.

I definitely want to try something else. I wonder, too, if my Kurdish friends were just do delighted to get their hands on a ripe fig ---still pretty rare in these parts---that it wasn't really as great as they think. I appreciate everyone here being so friendly and helpful!

Black Mission, Brown Turkey, and Celeste. i only decided to try growing Celeste since i never had one before. i had Black Mission and Brown Turkey before. not impressed. on purpose, i didn't grow anything that are commonly available from the online nurseries. if i want them, i can buy them. the trees i decided to grow are mainly for their taste. not for productivity. since i live far away from the west coast where all the wonderful figs are growing, i decided to grow as many as possible to narrow down what i'm going to keep. and the list is growing much faster than i want. you just need time, and small space to test them. 3 gal container will give 2-3 yr old tree to let you sample what you are looking for. 

Remember you can always espalier it along your wall as well, like a step over fig or a tall fan shape as well.  For brunswick I would plant it out somewhere with full sun and not in a frost pocket (not a low laying spot in your yard)  but that is me.

a "special" fig is one that:
     tastes good
     produces well for you
     is well-climatized for your zone

If Brunswick meets those criteria for you, then plant it and give is "special" care and you will be pleased with the result.

Until last  year I never had anything but run of the mill figs like Celeste, Texas Everbearing, Mission, etc. They ALL tasted good, although some were better than others. Then last year I had a few perfectly ripe Hardy Chicago figs - they were heavenly! But unless the Hardy Chicago can will produce the over-abundance of the Texas Everbearing, I will always be VERY glad to have a TE bush in my yard!  

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Remember you can always espalier it along your wall as well, like a step over fig or a tall fan shape as well.  For brunswick I would plant it out somewhere with full sun and not in a frost pocket (not a low laying spot in your yard)  but that is me.


I am interested in espalier.  I have several places I could plant a tree. I want to grow some other trees, too. I really want a peach and an apple---dwarf sizes.

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