rafed,
thanks again. the white greek is doing great. i think it grew some. this weekend, i put it in the full sun and it's doing fine.
the unknown israeli red is also rooting and putting leaves out. some are little slow, but 1 is in 8" pot now and 3 are getting read to go into pot.
celt,
first picture and all the ones in cups in 3rd picture are israeli.
pete