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Who said Organza bags worked?

Daniel

The yellowjackets by me could not get through my organza bags and many died in the traps I laid. I got some good yellowjacket pesticide too. It was the birds that devoured my figs inside the organza bags. The combination of netting and organza bags seems to have repelled them for now, though there are few figs left on that tree. The yellowjackets were tough for a while though.

Bumping this up ,
Does anyone notice delayed ripening when using the white organza bags (any of them)?
just yesterday i removed all off them in hope of better ripening.

thanks
Eli

Eli

I only put on the bags when I notice swelling, so the ripening has begun, and once it begins, well, you know, it finishes. I have notice that rain or watering on the bags on low plants causes a bad effect, rotting.

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Eli

I only put on the bags when I notice swelling, so the ripening has begun, and once it begins, well, you know, it finishes. I have notice that rain or watering on the bags on low plants causes a bad effect, rotting.


Ditto

try this...............

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Thanks all,
It is strange that having almost 113f but getting very slow ripening.
removed all organza yesterday and already today i see the color changes.

Dave,  your method will not work on my ants.


Elin I use this for ants I spray it all around the pots not in the pots and I haven't seen a single ant I use it also around my house I have been using this stuff for years and it works like a charm the rain does not wash it away one application will last the whole summer 

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Thanks Dave,
No like chemicals but if it is as good as you say ill consider trying to get some.


Dave, can you describe your plastic protective device?  Is that part of a soda bottle?

Hey Ed Yes it is a soda bottle I just cut the part that you drink out of off with a pair of scissors then sliced it in half and wrapped it around the fig and the trunk the pressure from the plastic holds it in place it has worked great so far hopefully the birds won't learn how to crawl up from the bottom  On my trees that have allot of figs I just toss a light weight bird net right over the tree works perfect 


Hi elin,
Figs need direct sun to ripen faster. Whatever comes in the way between the fig and the sun will delay the end of the ripening process.
Last year I used pieces of clothes, and that as well delayed the ripening, but at least most of the fruits were intact for me to eat.
If I wouldn't have protected them, they would have been gone.

For ants, try coffee and gypsum - the white wash on the trunks. I'm giving it a try currently . I started with the cherry tree and its still alive.
I tried with one fig tree ... one week later still alive, so I just brushed some gypsum on two other fig trees. If it works well, they all will be pale faced feet in the future :) .

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The organza effect might be a good idea -how to extend the growing season.
I wonder if the fruit size is bigger with them.
Growers do that with loquats and mangos , probably thats why store bought loquat these days are not as sweet as used to be,
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The green ones work better for me.

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The green ones work better for me.

THIS

My solution.
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Is this some kind of a glue gun?

elin it is my trusty Star Trek Phaser to keep the bird away.

I find phasers ineffective against the Birds of Prey. You need more firepower.

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Bumping this up ,
Does anyone notice delayed ripening when using the white organza bags (any of them)?
just yesterday i removed all off them in hope of better ripening.

thanks
Eli


Eli - I thought about your post while covering a few figs with Organza bags.  Was covering a few figs on my MBVS and found this one:

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...moved over the leaf and found this:

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I've seen this before and never really have given it a second thought.  I'm sure most of us have also seen this after picking a dark fruit and then realizing the underside is green(ish).  The leaf rested on that particular part of the fig and the color did not come up at all.

It's a very interesting point that you bring up and to answer your question, no, I have not noticed any delayed ripening once the Organza bag was put on the fig.  Like Rafael, I put them on after the fig starts to plump up.  It seems that a freight train could not stop them at that point.  But figs definitely need to have the sun to get to that point.  My guess would be that putting an Organza bag on this fig might slow down the ripening process or make it not happen at all.  I covered the fig and removed the leaf so we'll see.


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Thanks for the update Danny, your way works the best -to wait till they plump up and then cover them up.
It looks like every year i am encountering different issue with growing figs :)
I tough tthat my zone 10 will be enough to riepn the figs well, even with the organza but i guess they need the "DIRECT" sunlight beams on them.


we cant mess with nature all the time...

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Ok maybe organzq bags are good for the big ants and bird but for the smaller minute ants they are not effective.

Did any one try attaching a paper dabed with honey to the ostiole??

Oh and i tried sealing them the tightest as can be and still the small ants attack.

Its not full proof.

Any inputs about the paper+ honey

Just for an update the organza work better for the small ants if after tightening the wires i i make  a knot with the laces. ZERO PENETRATION.

Well, I'm sooooo glad I found this conversation in the forum.

I have just bought a small fig tree (more like a rooted fig twig, LOL) for my little backyard.  I don't expect any figs this year.  But, I remembered that a neighbor's fig tree was devastated by yellowjackets, when the figs were ripe.  No one could get near that tree, the wasps were so obsessed.  It was years ago.  But, I still remember how bizarre and intimidating the situation was.  So, I'm trying to plan ahead, a little, and do some research on how to deal with the problem.  I'm sure that birds will be an issue, too, that bagging the figs could help.

In reading a few posts in this forum, I noticed that some folks had bagged their figs.  So, I took a look in the archives and found your thread.  Yay!

Sooooooo, my question is....where are you buying your organza bags and what size do find the most useful?  I'm assuming that they are reusable in future seasons, as long as they are not pecked through or torn.

Looks like there is some advantage to using green ones (maybe?).

Any suggestions about where you buy your baggies would be greatly appreciated.

Hi, Danny!  We're neighbors...I'm in Brooklyn.  What kind of fig are you growing?  I'm starting with a Celeste.  I understand that it's pretty cold hardy and tasty.

Hey Jess.  Welcome to the forum!

I use to think color didn't matter (see my post above from 2 years ago).  Now I think color definitely matters and exclusively use green and light blue.  
How did I come upon green and light blue you ask?  Good question.  We use organza bags religiously.  The birds found most other colors of organza
bags and pecked holes in them like Rafael's in the first post.  Green and light blue and the colors that were damaged the least.  So I ordered stacks of
these and these from Amazon.  Have been working well so far.

Squirrels are a different story.  They'll take anything and everything.  The Kania 2000 squirrel trap works best.

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