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scott_ga

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Registered: 09/07/07
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Any thoughts on whether Peter's Honey and Italian Honey (Marseilles, Lattarula) are actually the same fig? I supposedly have both and leaves are very different.


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im my collection they are very different as well, i will say this tho Peter honey and kadota ARE the same exact fig in my opinion 5 tree all dif sources...the fruit, leaf shape are exactly the same
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Both seem to be names that were attached to many different figs. My first Peter's Honey was red inside, which didn't seem to meet my idea of "honey" so I call it Peter's strawberry. My new Lattarula and new Peter's Honey haven't fruited, yet - still hunting.


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vern_2006

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I bought my Peter's Honey and Lattarula from One Geen World last March.  Their leaves are different and the Peter's Honey main crop of figs are much further along than the Lattarula.  I also have a Kadota fig tree.  I went out a few minutes ago to check the leaves of the Kadota and Peter's Honey and they look different to me.

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Peter's honey fruit  and crop size is smaller than Lattarula. I prefer lattarula in my zone 6/7.

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scott_ga

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I'm with you figman, I think that the peter's honey that I have more closely fits the pictures and description of kadota than marseilles, including producing two figs/node routinely. Leaves also match kadota on f4f site.


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also they both originated in Italy, too many coincidences.
my conclusions come from growing these 2 cultivars in similar conditions for 4 years.
similar situation as Quarter Pound fig and Brunswick exact same figs!
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I just went out and looked and while I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Lattarula and Kadota are closely related, the plants do in fact look different at least for me.

Kadota was a Monrovia plant and Lattarula came from Paradise Nursery.

The leaves on Kadota and Lattarula are similar, but different and Kadota's leaves feel thicker and rougher.

I suspect that just as Reverse and Panachee are essentially very similar (having originally come from the same plant), with one being a sport of another; that a number of varieties are essentially sports and sports of sports. 

 If figs produce sports on a regular basis then Jon could send me cuttings of Sal's, but from a branch forming an unrecognized sport and I could end up with a different but similar fig.  Should I share cuttings with figman (of that same ??Sal's??) and he too get a sport (off of my plant) then his fig would also prove different and 2-3 sports down the line the differences could be significant enough to appear to be a totally different variety.

I'm sure that most varieties could be relatively stable, but maybe rampant sports and minute mutation in some varieties could account for shy fruiting Celeste's and  some of the poor performing successful varieties in different locations (though climate certainly likely does have its effect as well)

I think I've rambled long enough..

~Chills

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Peter' Honey brebas are ripe here now and fairly tasty. Jon if you want any of these pix for the f4f sitem, they are yours.

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