Osborn Prolific-aka Neveralla & Archipel-Color Variations

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jrice

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Posted 1223253734	Reply with quote #1

I see Osborn Prolific described by various nurseries & others with skin colors ranging from dark to light. Raintree Nursery describes it as a dark purple skin fig; Condit describes it as bronze with a violet tinge and mine is as Condit describes. Are there different color variations or different strains?

fignut

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Posted 1223261002	Reply with quote #2

Maybe different looks in different locations? Maybe same look different descriptions? This is a main crop Neveralla in Rhode Island. I'd say bronze with a violet tinge, but someone else might call it purple. One thing for sure, this is one of the best figs I've ever tasted!

Herman2

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Posted 1223263499	Reply with quote #3

I Have a yellow Osborn proliffic wich is not allwayes consistent in quality. Some of the figs are very good some are bad tasting. They are Similar to the Osborn Prollific,UC Davis have but it is from a different source. It is yellow outside with light pink inside. I also have the Archipell from UC Davis Collection,wich is yellow to bronze in Color and Amber inside. Archipell is a fig wich is also,called Osborn Prolific. Marry Anne:Your Fig is much darker than Archipell ,so I think it is a different fig.There are at least 3 Cultivars Called Osborn Prolific. It could be you got the tastier of them all. Archipell is good but i would not call it excellent. Best Regards

pitangadiego

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Posted 1223267119	Reply with quote #4

Mine is closer to a BT in coloration, with a flavor somewhere between BT and Black Mission. Will have pix at Figs 4 Fun later in the season. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

fignut

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Posted 1223326572	Reply with quote #5

I picked the last two Neveralla today. They were very sweet, but did not have the rich flavor of the earlier figs. It could be that I just didn't wait long enough. But considering how cold it has been, they were very good for this time of year in New England. You can see the color better in this photo. They had spots inside that weren't ripe - you can see the white area in the upper left side at about 10 o'clock - I probably should have waited longer to pick. This fig tree was a rooted cutting last year, and this is the first year that I've had figs. It produced a breba on July 17 that was as good as the main crop. I got my first main crop fig on August 28th, and today I picked the last figs, which were sweet despite cool weather. The figs are about an ounce - a little bigger than Celeste. It is also called Osborne Prolific (I didn't get that many this year, so I can't verify that it deserves the name, LOL). The tree wasn't pinched, and I'm about 2 weeks behind Herman's ripening times in New Jersey (he pinches). All things considered, I think this is a great variety to try in short season areas - excellent flavor, ripens fairly early, and is still sweet if the temperature cools during ripening.

SteveNJ

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Posted 1223340817	Reply with quote #6

Since I'm adding to my wish list (especially short-season varieties), what do you recommend as a source since there seems to be several named similarly? __________________ Regards, Steve Zone 6a - Northwest NJ

jrice

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Posted 1223340854	Reply with quote #7

Mary Ann, I have one Osborn Prolific that looks pretty much as the ones you posted today. Yes, O.P. is like many figs in that they can vary somewhat in color and taste from different regions of the US. My 2 types ripen excellent fruit in hot temps. Herman, I also have a O.P. that has yellowish fruit. I got it from Paul Starnes back in the 80's and it is a very good one. Jon, I look forward to seeing pix of yours later. All in all, we'll probably never sort out all figs to exact cultivars, but that's part of the fun of growing them. Thanks for the input. Jack

SteveNJ

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Posted 1223370359	Reply with quote #8

Jack, Are you aware of any online nursery selling OP? Sounds like a good candidate for me in NJ. Thanks. __________________ Regards, Steve Zone 6a - Northwest NJ

jrice

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Posted 1223428385	Reply with quote #9

Steve, Several on line nurseries that offer Osborn Prolific are Raintree Nursery and Just Fruits & Exotics. If you would like to root your own, I can furnish cuttings in the dormant season which will be in Dec. If so, send me your mailing address. Jack Rice arice1@bellsouth.com

SteveNJ

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Posted 1223429158	Reply with quote #10

Jack, I sent you an email. __________________ Regards, Steve Zone 6a - Northwest NJ

jrice

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Posted 1223433332	Reply with quote #11

Steve, My correct Email address is arice1@bellsouth.net. This is not my day as I posted this correction as a separate topic earlier. I'm half asleep so it's time to get off the computer. Jack

SteveNJ

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Posted 1241641356	Reply with quote #12

I thought I would resurrect this thread. Attached is a "white paper" resulting from a little digging I did into the question of Archipel = Osborn = Neveralla? Please take a look and comment as you see fit. I welcome your feedback and have a thick skin :) Attached Files Microsoft_Word_-_Archipel.pdf (52.92 KB, 119 views) __________________ Regards, Steve Zone 6a - Northwest NJ

SteveNJ

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Posted 1241771971	Reply with quote #13

So, anyone with these varieties, I would like to hear your observations regarding fruit descriptions and growth habit. I know a few of you have them and can add to a discussion. Thanks __________________ Regards, Steve Zone 6a - Northwest NJ

genecolin

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Posted 1249349381	Reply with quote #14

Perplexed, First was my LSU Gold that doesn't look like an LSU Gold, now this one. Three weeks ago I bought what was suppose to be an Osborn Prolific. It is only 6 months old and has this great big fig on it that seems to be swelling and ripening. It doesn't look at all like the figs you have pictured in this post. Anyone with any clues? I thought that by buying from a nursery I be getting the right names on the plants. __________________ From the bayou, "gene" zone 9 Houma, La.

pitangadiego

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Posted 1249352843	Reply with quote #15

Looks a lot like Brunswick, including the leaves. The question s not whether you bought from a nursery, but who the nursery bought from: did they get the plants they ordered, or did they get plants labeled with the names of what they ordered. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

Herman2

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Posted 1249359407	Reply with quote #16

Gene:Your Osborn P,is identical to The Archipel,in UCDAVIS Collection. I have one just like yours but 3 years older,Inground outside,and is a good fig. You will not be dissapointed with this one. Osborn Prolific and Archipell are 2 names that are used,for this one. According to UCDavis This is Archipel. Sorry,Jon,but the leaves do not look like Brunswick to me,but yes they look close to Brunswick. This cultivar's leaves look more like English Brown Turkey,to me. Best Regards to all.

genecolin

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Posted 1249380599	Reply with quote #17

After I made my post, I did some browsing and came up with a couple of pictures and some descriptions that made me think the same a you Herman2. Of course this is a very young tree, and perhaps as it ages it may give me a better idea. I hope you're right Herman about it being a keeper because it sure is pretty to look at. Jon I have a Brunswick in the neighborhood and the leaves are close but not quite. In fact I had one growing from a cutting off of that tree but took it out because it soured too easily and my space is to precious to leave a tree there that doesn't support itself. Thanks for the replies. __________________ From the bayou, "gene" zone 9 Houma, La.

Benny

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Posted 1249435107	Reply with quote #18

Not sure if this is of any help but this is a leaf photo from my Osborne . The tree is here in NJ and acquired from a Jersey grower in Flemington grown in a pot. I did take a photo of the tree and figs but didn't come out good, very blurry, I'll give it a shot tomorrow. Attached Images Photo0111.jpg (119.42 KB, 22 views)

pitangadiego

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Posted 1249443410	Reply with quote #19

My OP looks much closer to a BT, from a reliable CRFG source. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

gorgi

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Posted 1253903522	Reply with quote #20

You can see: 1 Calvert at 12 o'clock 2 ?? at 3 o'clock 1 Neveralla at 5 o'clock 2 Archipel at 9 o'clock Note: both the Archipel and Neveralla tasted averge(plus) to me. For some reason, the neck of those 2 Archipel figs was rather flat (other than the usual round, for most any other fig)! Attached Images Calvert_GTDK_Neveralla_Archipel_WEB2.JPG (108.94 KB, 132 views) __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

scott_ga

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Posted 1253924191	Reply with quote #21

This is edible landscaping's osborne prolific. Kind of rust colored orange on yellow. Yellow pulp. I've only had one--it's not prolific yet--taste was ok. Attached Images EL_Osborne_Prolific_main_crop_small.JPG (135.68 KB, 69 views) __________________ Scott North Georgia Zone 7b

snaglpus

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Posted 1366744992	Reply with quote #22

bump __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

snaglpus

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Posted 1390497377	Reply with quote #23

I bumped this thread last year without a comment. Therefore, I am bumping it again. I have 3 Osborne Prolifics. One is the the ground and the others are in pots. I'm looking for some more current data from anyone that has this fig. My large one came from a forum member years ago. The other 2 came from RR. I got 2 small dudes in pots and they did fruit last year, but I have no notes on the figs at all. If anyone has addition information on this fig, please comment. thanks! __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

jdsfrance

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Posted 1390556827	Reply with quote #24

Hi Snaglplus, Could you be more precise ? How prolific were your trees ? Here I have never heard or have seen that strain at nurseries . __________________ ------------------------ Climate from -25°C to + 35°C Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here

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