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Hello All,

Last season, I bought a TX Everbearing fig tree from a local man and I bought a Brown Turkey fig tree from Just Fruits and Exotics; two different sources and states.

As they grew, I noticed that they each grew in the same shape and the leaves and variation of leaves of each tree were exactly the same. 

Each tree has put on fruit this season and neither one of them has a pink eye early on in their development as I've read they should.  It gets pink as the fig nears ripening.  Both trees.

The leaves are rounded, three-lobes, mostly, none of those little spur-looking things on the bottoms of the leaves near the stem.

The BT ripened a fig the other day and it is a lighter shade of tan, not brownish with purple blush as I've seen in some descriptions.

Now, the TX E is starting to ripen a fig and it's identical to the BT.

Neither one of these figs looks like the figs I ate from my grandparents' fig trees when I was little.  Those had a tougher skin and were a redish brown.  We usually ate the insides of the figs off of the skin, as the skin didn't get sweeter until the fig was really ripe, almost to the point of fermenting.  Boy!  Those were so good!  My cousins told me that the skin would irritate our lips and mouths if we ate it, but when very ripe, I would eat the skin, as it added a new depth of flavor to the figs.  (Don't tell them that...)  :)  My grandmother would peel the figs before we would eat them as dessert.

I've searched both forums and google, but I've not seen the TX E that someone posted pictures of where the leaves were more fingerlike than the two trees I have here.

Does anyone have a photo of that Maryland BT that has been talked about from time to time?  If so, I'd sure like to be able to see one and the figs, as well inside and out.

I know these two varieties are so common that they are not that mentionable, but I'm still searching for figs that are like the first figs I ever ate in Newport News, Virginia, which is near Maryland.  It was back in the late 40s and early 50s.

I will most likely not keep these two trees, as the flavor was weak, but I'll let the figs ripen more and see how they taste then.  They have a tender skin like the Celeste, but they are NOT the same shape as the Celeste.  They are more turbinate in shape and are more flattened at the eye end without a neck.

I just wanted to check back and see if anything new might show up.

Thanks,

noss

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Noss,

Check these out:
http://www.galgoni.com/ENG/Fotos_Maxi/005.htm

Also, it could be that the trees are still young and that's why the flavor is weak and the color and texture could be regional differences. Hope you find it.

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Noss,

At one time Herman2 had both Maryland BT and Marseilles Black VS. He shared much of his growing experience on the other fig forum and he determined and reported that they are in fact the same cultivar. So, MBT is not the fig that you are searching for.........sorry.

However, English Brown Turkey might be the one. Someone may have pictures.......

FYI....I got rid of my Texas Everbearing because of its bland flavor.

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@Viv

If you want to see some pictures to compare, here are ...

Some pictures of my young BT fruit and tree: 
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=41210236&postcount=18

Some pictures of the different dominant leaves of my BT:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=41210339&postcount=20

Finally, here are some pictures of ripe BT fruit:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4767918

And here is a picture of very ripe fruit with that very large BT eye ;) 
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=41371106&postcount=8

Does this help?

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Noss .
JFE offers 2 kinds of BT.
Do you know which one you got ?


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I know this isn't the exact topic, but I didn't want to start a new thread for this. Can anyone list any major fruiting and flavor differences in Texas Everbearing and the White Tx Everbearing?  I have several rooted cuttings of the WTE from UCD and I'm not really sure what to expect.
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Noss, I think I have a few newly rooted Maryland Brown Turkey fig cuttings.  The figs off this tree are a dark reddish brown.  I'll be potting them up in 1g containers today.  Email me and later on this Fall, I'll send you one of the trees.


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Thanks for the pictures, Ruben.  I don't know if those are like what my GPs had, but the leaves look close.  I have some photos where the fig trees are showing in the background, but the leaves aren't real clear and there were not figs that I can see.  Too bad.  I'm going to scan them in and see if I can see them better, but the photos are copies of copies.

The color of the pulp looks right and maybe the shape, as well.

Thanks, Ruben.

Dan,  Maybe I'm really looking for Black Marseilles, depending upon how far back that variety has been around.  I'll have to google it to see about it.

Do you have a Black Marseilles?  If so, how does it do in our climate?  Is that the fig that people call the CA BT?

All I can remember is that the color of the outside of the figs were a redish brown and the skin was more tough than this little pair of trees are showing.  The figs had a pronounced fig flavor.  My gramma peeled them, but we kids always just broke them open and scooped out the pulp with our teeth.  Yum.

I think I'm chasing rainbows, here, but I so appreciate y'all helping me chase them.  :)

Hi Jason,  Those are some good photos.  Thanks for taking the time to post the links.  I don't remember the figs being real Jammy even when very ripe, but the figs in the last link look close on the outside.  I remember that sharp, fig smell when I would go into the fig tree looking for figs and I recall many small seeds.  In the pics of the BT leaves--They all look so much like Celeste leaves.

DWF,  I got the regular BT, not the larger one.  The woman I spoke with said the other one was larger and the eye was more open than the regular BT.

Hi Rufus,  Go ahead and add in your topic and questions--I'm interested in what you're saying because you're talking TX E.  I've wondered about it and wondered if it was really a TX E type and what it's like.

Re: TX E--I tried to find a link about the TXE that someone posted that said the TX E figs were more elongated rather than turbinate and the leaves were more deeply cut than most of the BT photos I've seen, but couldn't find the posts.

Hi Dennis,  Thanks.  I'll email you.

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My BT smells very much like cat urine after a rainstorm or in high humidity.  It doesn't tend towards that incredible cinammon+coconut milk smell that some figs have.


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LOL, Jason!

My GPs' trees didn't smell like cinnamon-coconut milk, either.  I'm mostly talking about how the ripe figs smelled when on the trees, still.  It was very strong figgy smell, but not cat urine.  The trees did smell a tad like that at times.  That's not a smell you forget easily.

I can't recall that I've ever smelled a cinnamon-coconut milk smell with fig trees.  Can you name a particular variety, or varieties that do have that smell?  I wonder if those would be the berry-tasting figs, or the very dark figs.

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Almost all fig tree roots smell like coconut milk and cinnamon to me.

The BT figs I have smell foggy but taste sweet and watery even when dead ripe.

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Noss,

FYI, "any fig" that does well in Herman2's yard and passes his fig trials SHOULD do real well in our climate. And some mid to late season figs that do just OK in his area.....will do fine in our longer and hotter climate. When he is describing a fig that should do well in areas with MORE HEAT......he is describing our area.

I had a Maryland BT that died and replaced it with Marseilles Black VS since it is the same fig. It has not yet fruited for me.

I have a STRONG suspicion that EBT is the fig that you are looking for. A couple of forum members have this fig (me too) and maybe have pictures for you to see. Herman2 reported on this fig on the other fig forum. A couple of years ago a fig enthusiast from New Jersey posted pictures and requested an ID. He can ID himself if he so chooses.

If you find that this is the tree you are looking for......I have an extra one. MY EBT tree was set back this year and I may not be able to get a picture for posting. I did share one of these figs with Gene and Jeff last year when we had lunch together. It does have a rather thick skin when compared to a Celeste fig and it warrants peeling before eating. It does have a "figgy" taste. It is larger than a regular Celeste.

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Noss, 
I noticed that Petals From the Past, describe their BT as having 'Red Eyes from an early age'.
Think I'm goning to try one this fall. Neither of my
"BTs" have this feature, or figs either for that matter LOL.
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Mine has pink eye, sometimes more burgandy-pink.  It still tastes like crap.  ;)


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Hi Dan,

Is EBT English Brown Turkey?

Tell you what--The description of your fig sounds an awful lot like my GPs' figs.  Is it a redish brown?  The figgy taste piques my interest because their figs were not bland in any way and those figs were larger than a regular Celeste. 

Does the skin have an almost cat's tongue roughness to it, by any chance?  Like the roughness of the fig leaf surface?  Does the skin get more tender if the fig gets really ripe to the point of almost overripe?

What is the eye like?  The color of the pulp?  I'm very interested in your tree.

Hi Dave,

I'll go look at Petals From the Past and see what they say about their BTs.  I don't have any idea from what stage my GPs' figs' eyes got red because by the time we went to VA for a visit, the figs were already starting to ripen and it never occurred to me to notice the color of the eye back then (darn!).  I was more interested in savoring the flavor of the figs.  :)  Kids, huh?

Jason,

Does this mean your BT does NOT have a figgy flavor?  :)

Thanks,

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Jason,

Does this mean your BT does NOT have a figgy flavor?  :)

First, let me clarify what I think "rich" and "figgy" are, since I think a lot of folks take for granted what either of these terms mean to different individuals.  Everyone has their own taste, so if I describe mine, maybe it will help to clear up the comments to follow. 


When you say "figgy flavor" and "richness", I equate that to two things:

Figgy toffee pudding.
Fig Newtons.

"Figgy" to me is the underlying predominant taste of the two items I have just mentioned (although there are other elements like brown sugar/molasses, cinammon, etc.)  I think that the flavor of older Fig Newton cookies (circa 1980ish) is the easiest way to explain to others what "figgy" can taste like, and when I eat fig newtons, I am taken back to the figs I would eat off trees on my family property (great aunt's house) back in east Texas.  The new Fig Newton cookies don't taste the same to me and now they have multiple flavors, so they are a poor gauge to use.  Figgy is akin (again, to me) like a lovely sweet tamarind jam, maybe even some notes of unsweetened medjool date, cinnamon and orange jam, that kind of stuff.

"Richness" (to me) is that depth of flavor you experience where it's not just "in and out" of your mouth in a fleeting flash.  When something is "rich", it sticks around on your palate for a long period of time, almost like it's coating your mouth, and it may go through several iterations of flavor for a period of time after you've already swallowed.

With that said... No, my BT is nowhere near rich nor figgy.  I would rate last year's main crop as follows, on a scale of 1-10, where 0 would be "none" and 10 would be "bursting with":

Juicy: 5
Sweet: 7
Figgy: 1
Rich: 0

For the smell.... it has a hint of fig smell to the open fruit.  The unopened fruit is only a fraction of that smell.  

I am extremely critical of my BT.  I don't know why I even keep it in the ground taking up space sometimes.  It is a great grower, and it produces.... but the fruit is just "meh".  I truly do not understand the fascination with this fig.  It is one of the worst, bumbling, oafy, sorry excuses for a fig I've had.

I realize this is very negative of me to say, but ... I don't like BT.  I don't understand what there is to love.  I don't see a practical application for this variety.



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Jason you hit the nail on the head with the last post. This is why I discarded my Monrovia BT the first season I had it. Flavour was average at best sure they were huge figs but flavour was meh as you said. First figs to ripen had a huge open eye and would split easily with our humidity. So I gave it to my father I too dont understand what the big hype is about BT figs I know there are allot of different strains out there but the ones I tasted were mediocre at best, with one exception English Brown Turkey. This one actually tastes good and is Hardy.


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Good point Jason.  I think the BT you have is a Cali Brown Turkey.  If you taste the BTs I pick in my area, they would be

Juicy: 7
Sweet: 7
Figgy: 1
Rich: 0

No, they are not rich but full of flavor and sweetness if picked at the right time.  I found an abandon tree and every year, I pick at least one 5 gallon bucket full and that's only a 10th of the figs on the tree!  Last year I got bold and took a ladder because my wife feel in love with them.  Here is a pic of some of those picked.
I ate so many of these figs!  They were oozing from the eye and the ants, bees and birds were all over them.  Two years ago, I took cuttings from this tree and now have 2 of these trees planted in my orchard.  They produce just like moma.  :) 

I know for a fact that soil, temp and water and other nutirents control the flavor of a fig.  I had a 5gal 4ft tall Stella in a container for 2years.  When I got the tree it was 3 years old.  It grew very little that year and only produced 2 large figs.  The interior was very sweet and amber in color.  The next year (last year) I moved it out of full sun, kept it in the same pot and it shot up a branch taller than moma and produced 4 figs.   I airlayered off 2 branches and they took very well.  After letting it grow in the shade that year, the interior of those figs were red inside and crazy sweet.  This year, I planted Stella in my orchard and it is growning faster than the past 2 years and she has at least 12 figs on. I got both junior air layers in 5 gallon pots and they now have 2 figs one.  I picked one yesterday (brebra) skin was a little tough red inside and just sweet.

So, soil plays a big part with figs and I'm sure you know this.  We down south have a lot of clay soil.  However, I till in Nature's Helper (also know as clay buster) with my soil depending on the location and the soil itself.  To me, Nature's Helper is the same thing as MG Garden Soil which is dime size pine bark.  Let me know if you want me to send you an air layered Southeastern Brown Turkey.

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The fig tree pictured in the first link is CELESTE!!!  Not Brown Turkey!! "richly flavored and delicious" should have been a dead giveaway that it wasn't Brown Turkey, but the image clearly shows a Celeste variety!!

The second link is much, much more accurate!!

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Noss "Kids Huh"  
Indeed.  I grew up in NE Texas eating big Brn/Purple figs off of Grand Pa's fig tree. Don't know what kind it was . I remember the fist figs of the summer weren't good and I would wait a while (month?) then they were great.
It would freeze down to the ground  Every winter w/o fail, and then put out about a hundred spring suckers about 10ft tall and bear a heavy crop every year.
Ma canned figs every year tho I tried to eat all the fresh ones.
Went back a few years ago after 50 years. The house was being lived in but the old fig tree was gone.
I'm like you still looking for "Pa's" old fig tree. ((; 
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Hey Dennis those pics you posted sure look allot like my English Brown Turkey do you have any pics of the Pulp & Leaves?


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I do not trust any website's photos of brown turkey.  There are so many fig trees falsely labeled at that.  So much so that unless it's something like a English brown turkey or a Vern's brown turkey I do not take the photos any seriously


Just read back, realized that it may've looked/read like I was yelling at you.  I was more exclaiming how ludicrous it was that they were saying false things about Brown Turkey and showing pictures of a Celeste.  If they are eating Celeste, I agree with their statements for the most part.  In fact, if they simply replace "Celeste" in the paragraphs, everything on that page makes sense!

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Noss,

I've found a couple of pictures of my EBT (English Brown Turkey). The pictures are not that good a quality. However, maybe you will recognize it as the fig that you are looking for. It came from a fig grower who lives in New Jersery.

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Hi Jason,  Listen--Don't be shy--Tell us what you REALLY think of Brown Turkey figs, now.....  ;)

I think I'm the only one with they hype about BT figs and it's only about my GPs' two trees from way back when.....  They did taste good because that flavor has stayed with me all these long years.  I would taste the figs with my whole mouth and that's how I still taste figs.  The had good sweetness without being cloyingly sweet and they had a definite fig taste.  The figs that were just on the edge of too ripe sent me into a place that I could call figgy heaven.  I was just a kid, so I'm sure my taste buds were very keen at that time, but I can still taste that figgy flavor when it's there.  It's a whole mouth thing.  Left me never being able to eat enough of them to not want more.

I hate Fig Newtons and always have.  My mom thought I'd love them because of how I loved the figs in VA, but I've always loved fresh figs better than preserved.  As good as the preserved figs can be down here, they don't hold a candle to fresh, to me.  When they're preserved, they lose that figgy flavor, at least what it is to me.

As for that Celeste in the first picture--That's how my BTs look.  They are a little more blunt on the eye end than the Cs, but even the leaves look similar on both trees, to the Cs.  They aren't as good, though.

I got one as a TX E and the other as a BT and they came from two different sources, so they must be a type of BT, just one of the not-so-great BTs, which from you, sounds like all of them!  LOL!  I'm not impressed with these two little trees either.

Hello Dave,  Ahhh--You know just how I feel.  I wonder what kind of figs you had at that house and I hope you find them again some day.

Sometimes, I can bite into a Celeste that is not quite ripe and taste that same fig flavor from so long ago and it zaps me right back to that time.  Funny how smells and flavors can do that.

Hi Dan,   Both the shape of the EBT and the St. Gabriel Black look like GP's figs.  They had a turbinate shape like that and not a real neck.  The insides were an amber red color and they weren't overly juicy.  They were sticky and had a good sweetness, but needed to be ripe to be really good.  When over ripe, they would be slightly fermented in flavor and "prune-y" looking.  When the figs were just on the verge of getting over ripe, they were really good and sweeter and even more figgy.  I guess one would call it, "dead ripe."

Do your EBTs get that star splitting around the eye like the ones in Dennis' photos?  I don't recall seeing anything like that on the VA figs.  That's very distinctive and I might have noticed something like that, but maybe not.

I would like to try the EBT you have and see if it turns out to be like GPs figs.

You know---Many people would want to hunt down real fortune and here I am, searching for a fig tree!  LOL!  I think figs are more like gold to me than gold.

I appreciate, so much, all this input.  Y'all are such a great group of people and fun to be with.

Jason, you crack me up all the time and you're too cute.  So many of you make me smile and laugh.  You're the best.

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Alan,

You talkin'ta me?  :)

Since the trees were in Virginia, they were common figs and produced without pollination, since the fig wasp doesn't live there.  No, the figs weren't oily inside.

I have not ever eaten a calimyrna fig, so I don't know what the seeds would be like, but I imagine a fertilized fig would have larger, crunchy figs?

There were seeds in GPs' figs, but not larger crunchy ones.  We'd break the figs open and kind of suck the insides out of them.  That's how I tasted the fig with my whole mouth. 

I'm Vivian and I've been addicted to figs all my life.  I have no desire to kick this addiction and will "enable" anyone else with their fig addiction any time I can.....

Alan, Where are you from originally?  If you've said, I missed it.

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I love the taste of dried figs more, they tend to be more rich and figgy to me. Less water is probably the reason.


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Or for eating.... ;)

I like that taste. Dates, raisins, dried figs. Amazing wrapped in bacon or prosciutto or some lovely cured ham from Spain, or like candy for straight eating.

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Hey Nelson, this tree I got those figs from could very well be English Brown Turkey.  From what I know, the tree is abandon, it sits off about 100yds from this rental house.  I took cuttings about 3 years ago and got 2 very nice trees now planted in my yard.  Neither trees have the virus.  The figs are much larger than the brown turkey figs I grew up eating.  They are sweeter and jucier.  I'll swing by the moma tree and get a few leaves for you to see.  Plus the figs on moma are almost ready to pick so I need go by there anyway.  THank you for the reply! :) 


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Hi Alan,

Thanks for letting me know where you were born.  I was thinking, because of what looks like your last name and the way you word your sentences, etc, that you might be from overseas somewhere.

It's good you found you could grow figs in your area.

Interesting link you posted, thanks.

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Alan,

Your English is very good, so no need to get the hang of American English.  :)  I like the way you "speak".

Thanks, again, for sharing your personal self with us>  I enjoy your enthusiasm and your friendliness.

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Jason, I totally agree with you on the dried figs.  I eat at least one dried fig almost every day. I'd eat a few, but they are not exactly "low carb".  My fig "history" started almost 50 years ago in San Antonio, with my Grandmother.  She had one tree she had a love/hate relationship with.  She truly loved figs, but most times the ants and birds won, but sometimes she was able to harvest a few.  However, in a rush to beat the birds and ants, the figs she picked were not always truly ripe.  So I don't have warm feelings of fresh from the tree ripe figs like Dave and Vivian and others had.  A few years ago, I found those dried figs that come wrapped in a circular package (sort of a mini fig wreath).  I bought them to use to cook in something.  Well I tried them and never got around to cooking with them.  Then found dried black mission figs at the Fresh Market bulk area.  And have found good dried figs at Trader Joe's  Occasionally, I get to try fresh figs from the store (usually Fresh Market), but am largely underwhelmed by the taste and sweetness although they look beautiful and are usually huge. Usually the varieties are California Brown Turkey and Mission.   Six years ago I found a huge fig tree on United Methodist GBOD property - it happened to be Sept. and had a few ripe figs on it.  Ate one and and the light bulb went on, I then knew what all the hullaballou about fresh figs was all about.  Those things were good (probably Celeste)!  Ended up buying a tree from Home Depot (Celeste) that in ignorance I brought into the house for the winter for three years - then planted outside when I found out it was hardy.  It has died down to roots every year for 3 years now (so don't know if it is a Celeste or if it should not have been planted outside when I did).  Three years ago I bought a second tree from Home Depot - marked Brown Turkey.  Planted it in the ground and finally this year it is big enough to have more that a fig or two.  Agonizingly slow waiting for them to ripen.  The agony is more whether or not the squirrels will leave me any!  Or whether it will drop it's figs - found three on the ground yesterday evening.  In the meantime, I have found about 8 other trees near where I live that I visit frequently.  I visit them more frequently than I visit with my human friends!   One appears to be just starting to ripen the breba crop.  Hopefully fresh "dead ripe" figs soon. 

Dave, your description of your early figs are like my early memories of peaches.  We used to go to peach orchards and pick bushels of peaches that mom froze and made preserves and cobblers from.  Those are great taste memories, but the cloying rememberance is of the memory of the taste of the dead ripe peaches just picked from the tree, warm from the sun, and eaten standing next right next to the Elberta tree it came from.. It was such a great pleasure, I felt guilty experiencing it.  But that didn't stop little Mikey, I'd eat so many that, lets just say I had to visit the bathroom quite often for a couple of days.  I have looked for that taste, texture, and sensation ever since - but haven't come that close.  Our frosts are such, that peaches don't bear all that often here - so no fresh from the tree peaches for me.  The peaches we do get are shipped in from Alabama, Georgia and the Carolinas (later in the season from California )- and while occasionally somewhat good, not the GREAT from my memory.   


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