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Very good tasting.
Too bad it only had one.

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Great figs pics , how is the taste n fruit productivity  if it compared to Conadria fig , Harman..?

Thanks for sharing pics..
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a very nice appetizer, Herman!
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nice looking fig. i like the red inside.
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Zaitun:It compares in such a way,that you judiciously and profitably, feed Conadria to pigs if you have JH Adriatic ripe and Conadria ripe the same time,and you also have pigs to feed,LOL.!
If you do not have pigs then,get yourself a shovel,and dig Conadria,  out of ground and use the wood in your sausage smoker,efficiently.!

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I would like to bring out the notion(false),that many people have ,as to the idea that Adriatic Hybrid,That Ira Condit Made,(Also called Conadria),Is Similar and about the same in Flavor and Taste,with The Classic ancient Adriatic fig,known from the  Roman ancient time.
Brothers,As a person that I grew both,I can tell you,Conadria is much more inferior then the Classic Adriatic it was made from.
Why:No Comment,we should ask Ira Condit,(not possible)why someone will alter a delicious cultivar to produce an Inferior Hybrid.
One fact is Fact:
The propaganda about Conadria is still lasting today,and that PR,makes people think they get an Adriatic ,when they buy a Conadria.
I grew Classic Adriatic,Conadria,and JH Adriatic.
Classic Adriatic and JH Adriatic,have the same delicious taste,and Flavor,but different leaves,While, Conadria has similar to Classic Adriatic leaves,but the taste is way ,much inferior.
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Hello Vasile, I have questions of JH fig. Is this Breba only one because it's a young tree or does it normally not produce Breba? Or maybe warmer winter? If you have answered this before, please forgive. Thanks for your help.


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lUKE:This fig is mostly main crop fig if in ground here in NJ.
That is because Breba even tho it might make some in the Fall,it dies over the Winter.
This is an exception,this year because the Winter was mild,with lowest at about 15F.
As to for How Many Breba it can make,that is for someone in Louisiana,or Central California to answer.
It is loaded with main crop now,and I know for sure it will get them to ripe stage here in NJ.
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Herman,
 Thank your for the pic. When does the main crop usually begin to ripen here in New Jersey? Also do you consider it to be in the same family as Battaglia, Verte, Green Ischia etc. or a distinct cultivar? Sorry if you have already answered these questions in the past.

   Peter
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It could be in The Bataglia ,Green Ischia Family,when about taste and flavor,but is distinct in leaf shape,and adaptability to short Summer climate,in that is way superior to those you mentioned,when counting if it has a chance to ripe properly here on the east coast.
This is a superior cultivar and it should be trialed all over USA.
As to when it start ripening main crop:About September 1st,after the early cultivars like Improved Celeste Gino's,Hardy C,Marseilles vs Black,Malta Black etc,and about the same time as Violette de Bordeaux.
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Herman,
 As always thanks for sharing your insights and experience.

  Pete
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JH Adriatic has the some of the same characteristics in Zone 8b Texas as in New Jersey. On a mature (about 20 yr. old) tree, it only produces a handful of breba figs each year. Like many brebas, the figs tend to be significantly larger than the main crop figs. The main crop is extremely prolific. Although a large portion of this year's main crop soured and ruined due to an abnormally rainy two week period in July about the time that the main crop began to ripen, in 2010 and 2011 the tree produced over 90 lb. of figs each year. The tree was on our place and about 7 years old when we moved here in 2001. I called the tree Adriatic, even though the leaves differ from the UC Davis Adriatic, based on its similarity to the traits that Condit described for Adriatic in the Monograph. I do think that it is closely related to the Adriatic. It would be interesting to see what a DNA analysis of the JH Adriatic vs. Adriatic would show in terms of relationship. The brebas usually mature in June in Austin, TX although this year some matured in May. The main crop of figs usually mature over a two week period in mid-July.
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Thanks Joe:Thank you again for giving away cuttings from this precious fig tree,so it can be grown all over USA Today.
As I mentioned before, the taste and flavor is delicious, and,is also similar and close to Green Ischia,Classic Adriatic,Battaglia Green,Calvert,Monstruese de Lipari,and Verte,but If I had to choose one tree out of all the above I will take JH Adriatic,that is how well adapted is in my climate here.
It is also forgiving when about Bad climatic condition,and it takes the rain and Humidity better than the above mentioned.
What is bad in my case is that I got  a JH Adriatic,in my possession,much later,after I already grew,The others mentioned above.
At Present time I sent south most of them and kept only JH Adriatic,and Battaglia.
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TQ Herman for your detail explanation about JH Adriatic.

Hope I could have it  some day.

Best regarda
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Herman,
 Do you see any other green fig in the horizon that can potentially match JH Adriatic (such as Smith or Green greek) ?

 Pete
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Green Greek ,Stella,Dalmatian,and Vasilika Sika,are all similar,in between them,and very good for my climate too,but they are elongated figs,with Finger leaves,a totally different kind of figs.
I also have another Vasilika Sika In trial,importation from Grece,and is totally different in leaf and fruit,shape compared to the above.
I already had fruits last year in October,but I need to trial it longer to see if it can get ripe fruits earlier here and ,if it can match Adriatic JH,in Adaptability or not.
So Far ,for me JH Adriatic is a sure bet.
As for Smith,I could never root it tho I had cuttings twice,so I do not know how it will do here.
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Joe, I want to thank you also; for sharing such a treasure. 
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Great evaluation Vasile. Every fig lover would want to try this variant now. This is good.

A big thanks to JOE for making this variant available.
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Here are fruits in the second year after rooting cuttings,the first fruits the tree made,main crop figs. were ripe on September 12 2010,later than normal because the plant was so young.

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I checked my notes,and I got cuttings for this cultivar in November 2009,and rooted them in February 2010, grew them Spring and Summer 2010,and on September 12 2010,I had the ripe fruits you see in the pix below.

 This is the second fig I grew beside Marseilles black vs that produced ripe fruits in the first year of life!.

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I intend to get a JH Adriatic this fall.  The photos and growth information in this post make me look forward to getting this variety even more.
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Thanks, Joe!  I've been wanting to have an Adriatic for years and I got some cuttings from Jon last winter.  Can't wait to get figs.
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You are all very welcome. Even though I haven't met any of you personally, I feel as if I know you from reading your posts over the years. I appreciate all that you all have done to share the exceptional varieties of figs.  BTW, Jon (the moderator of this forum) should be a good source of rooted JH Adriatics (assuming that demand hasn't outstripped supply), since I sent him a good quantity of JH Adriatic cuttings early this spring.
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Attached are some pictures of the JH Adriatic tree, fruit and leaf. For comparison, there is also a picture of the JH Adriatic fruit and Battaglia Green fruit and leaf side-by-side.

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Here is one of my two JH Adriatic plants, thanks goes to one of our members up North for the cuttings!

I lightly root pruned it on 6-13-12, as you can see it is healthy & happy (notice the figlets) on it since the root pruning.

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jha.JPG    JHA waking up in greenhouse with brebas!  i can't wait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herman2
It compares in such a way,that you judiciously and profitably, feed Conadria to pigs if you have JH Adriatic ripe and Conadria ripe the same time,and you also have pigs to feed,LOL.!
If you do not have pigs then,get yourself a shovel,and dig Conadria,  out of ground and use the wood in your sausage smoker,efficiently.!


guess I can toss my new Conadria's off the top of my office building...  and it was growing so well..  oh well.. need the space.. lol
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James, I've decided to dig mine up. So, in about 2 weeks, it comes up!
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i'm sorry.. i'm probably the only one here who thinks that JH Adriatic didn't impress me. maybe the tree is too young, maybe the weather last yr had something to do with it. but it was just average. then again, i had some great figs and maybe my taste buds were off. 
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My JH Ad just started rooting. Thanks to a very generous member of this forum. Can't wait to taste the fruit.

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Hey Pete....too much rum and coke!
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dennis, i changed over to jack and pepsi x)
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"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
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September 29 2015,follow up:
Adriatic Jh main crop ,fruits taken today,delicious taste and flavor,and it was  ripening starting Sept.12.
This is from one of my younger trees in front of house,that went trough last Winter ,without Winter protection,died to soil line and look at it now,it is back in business.
Of course I have the mother tree plus 1 more sisters.

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