Aaron4USA
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Posted 1392002318
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http://raysfigs.com/ethnic.html
greenfig
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Posted 1392011608
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There are 4(!) Sicilian Blacks at the bottom. How do you tell them apart if the names are the same?
musillid
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Posted 1392031806
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The red one should be easy to identify.
ADelmanto
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Posted 1392049022
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They should all be "U. Sicilian Black" Most of the varieties brought over should have the "U." Over time these "U" have received notoriety and official names, like "Sal's Corleone." How the process works is unclear to me, but arbitrarily putting a variety out there without the "U" adds to the confusion. Likewise, collecting an "U" and designating it a known name because the leaf and fruit are "pretty close" is a slippery slope. They also should always be "U". Calling something "U. Sal's Corleone" to me is better than naming a tree something that it may not be. On a small, local scale, naming a fig a Common, Regional, or Family name is fine. But here, for our purposes, it's too confusing.
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Aaron4USA
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Posted 1392051474
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yes
bullet08
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Posted 1392052039
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Ficas carica is not native to america. anything that's here came in here somehow. so they are all ethnic in someway. as to where it came from.. that depends on who brought them in and if anyone cared to kept a note on it. as to the name, my understanding is no one really cared too much for the name back in the old country. the "named" ones are something that some horticulturist or some town mayor or someone decided to call once they got too tired of calling the fig trees "that one" "this one", and "you know.. the other one".
pino
1383190021
Posted 1392052108
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I am not aware of any governing body that controls fig tree names except when someone goes through the effort of getting a patent.
Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres
Aaron4USA
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Posted 1392052273
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Well, the only way this confusion can be corrected is when some one has all the trees that we are not certain of their names and comparing and cross matching the fruit, leaf and growth habits collectively to come to conclusion. This may take time but it's a good way to clarify things for every body.
pino
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Posted 1392053882
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Aaron, great to hear your project is progressing well.
Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres
Aaron4USA
1375832059
Posted 1392054329
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you can move Joe, hehe, there is still a lot of space down here for new comers ;)
musillid
1327758167
Posted 1392067332
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I don't know that a data base will ever be right, because someone will pass around a misnamed fig and after a while someone will decide it is the same as some other fig and then someone will believe that the misnomer is synonymous with that other fig. A Ficus carica genome project might resolve things, but I am not holding my breath for that one.
rcantor
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Posted 1392076064
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There are a few people who have what they've known as Dotatto (I don't know how many Ts it should have) and they also have a Kadota and they say they're different.
pino
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Posted 1392076812
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Thanks Bob. Fico Bianco del Cilento. I guess it could be that there are slightly different strands of Dottato. Also someone mentioned that Dottato has a red interior with caprification or golden white if not fertilized.
Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres
recomer20
1378013757
Posted 1392093681
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I like it messy and confusing :) It's a good thing for figs to be more than just figs, to have some connection with people and places.
Aaron4USA
1375832059
Posted 1392102713
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Originally Posted by pino Fico Bianco del Cilento. I guess it could be that there are slightly different strands of Dottato. Also someone mentioned that Dottato has a red interior with caprification or golden white if not fertilized.
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pino
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Posted 1392127265
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Aaronhttp://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/goccia-doro-6735600?pid=1281349643#post1281349643
Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres
Aaron4USA
1375832059
Posted 1392170419
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This will be a very interesting find with Caprification... I am collecting Capri figs nowadays, I am shocked how many varieties I have found in my vicinity already...check this thread for pics, it is so exciting guys.Hello! New Member--Want Cuttings?
