ADelmanto
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Last weekend I took 80 cuttings from a very large fig tree. (I don't have the name, some Italian Honey variety) I put them in a clear rubbermaid container 32" x 20"x 13" and layered them in there with a total of 8" of moist Sphagnum Moss. I gave it bottom heat and installed a wireless thermometer to make sure they would not get too hot. Well today I checked on them. The temp at the top was 80 degrees but when I dug down to the bottom steam was released like a compost pile. I took everything out. The cuttings look really dry and it takes some effort to stick a fingernail in and check for green underneath. There is green but I'm really worried. They also have a little mold starting where the old leaves fell off. Are they dead? Did I cook them? I think I should start over. If I have 8" of moss/cuttings, how do I regulate the temp throughout? If I don't use bottom heat the thermometer reads about 64 degrees inside the container. Is that too cold? Is It warmer in the middle? I was trying to do it right, but I think it was an epic fail!
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Alan1631
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Posted 1360284904
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I would take one of them and cut it in the middle. If it still looks like viable plant material, I would try again with the better looking ones. As far as regulating the temperature, you could put them near/on-top of the water heater. I keep my house at around 68-70 this time of year and I have not had a problem with getting roots to develop with this temperature. I keep them near the air return under a dark garbage bag. I definitely would not keep heat under them. If you can't regulate the heat, you might try putting a towel between the heat and the container to help lower the temperature inside the box.
FiggyFrank
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Posted 1360288110
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If you're new to rooting, I'd stick to plastic shoebox bins. Layer of barely damp sphagnum moss, 4 cuttings, layer of moss, 4 more cuttings, then finally top with moss. Place lid on and place the bin somewhere in the house at room temp. They'll root with 68 degree temps, but at a slower rate. Less chance of drying out the cuttings too.
ADelmanto
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Posted 1360293422
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Grrrrr What do I use to inhibit the mold? I was thinking about dipping them in something.
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Willofig
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Posted 1360293999
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Wipe them down with bleach wipes before putting into container will help.
FiggyFrank
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Posted 1360294887
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satellitehead
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Posted 1360295120
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And... this is one of several reasons folks recommend against bottom heat. 64 degrees is fine, it just might take a little longer to strike roots.
ADelmanto
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Posted 1360295259
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At least I have not paid for the cuttings. Ok I'll start over. Anti bacterial soap, then bleach water. Do I cut to size b4 or after this process. I would think I should cot the bottom just before they go in the moss as I would like to use Dip N Grow. No real reason except I have it.
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jenniferarino83
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Posted 1360295522
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Sadly,
ADelmanto
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Posted 1360295787
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No, I'm going to toss these and start over fresh. Chalk it up to experience.
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ficus
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Posted 1360296092
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Yes satellitehead, I agree, I started a batch 4 weeks ago, kept them around 60 degrees, no mold, no problems,they are growing beautifully, anyway there is no rush we are only in february there is plenty of time. A couple years ago I started in Dec-Jan, had cuttings everywhere, in the kitchen, the bathroom the bedroom closet, ended up loosing many to mold, spindly green growth and the darn gnats. Now I wait or start them in a cool environment. Les stress and more success. All the best
JoAnn749
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Posted 1360302435
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I have been using sp moss with great success - no mold, no fungus gnats when cupped. I have them in various parts of the house depending on the temp. I have some in a closet that is about 70, we keep the thermostat around 74. The house humidity hovers in the 40-50% range.
twobrothersgarden
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Posted 1360309631
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I've done this before. I tried to do too many on one container. I would split them up so you can manage them better.
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OctopusInc
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Posted 1360312021
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Jennifer, the reason mold devours cooked cuttings is because the destroyed plant material can no longer fight it off. Mold is essentially landing on everything all the time but a healthy stable plant easily fends it off.
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ForeverFigs
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Posted 1360326256
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Aaron...I have the same type of set up that you're using (large plastic bin, heat pad with thermostat, etc.) I lay the heat pad on the bottom of the bin, then an old bath towel on top of that, with a large baking rack on top of that for air space(the type you use to set a cake on after baking). and finally one more towel....all cuttings go into 1gal zip lock bags of Orchid moss, then all the bags go into a large black plastic bag for darkness...the thermostat on the heat pad is set to 80 degrees. No problems with mold or rot... but lots of roots !! I also do the same thing by placing the bagged cuttings next to my wood burning stove...85 degrees all winter...no problems with rooting...
Dan796
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Posted 1360359073
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it would be an interesting experiment to take some of the "cooked" cutting and see if they do root or not?
rcantor
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Posted 1360377649
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If there's green the cuttings are still alive and I'd try to root some. You have to get all of the old leaf stem off or it will mold.
