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snaglpus

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Posted 1474829923	Reply with quote #1

Good day, I'm in the planning process of planting a 30+ Paw paw patch. For those who don't know, paw paws have to cross pollinate in order to get fruit. I have a spreadsheet listing all of my trees identifying which ones are early or late. I have these listed below plus other named cultivars. For my paw paw growers, do you know if if these listed below are early or late? I have to plant the early plants with the early plants. Mango Pa Golden Shenandoah Taylor Rappahannock Overlease Sweet Alice Thanks! __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

asimina_triloba

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Posted 1474856906	Reply with quote #2

Enjoy! I've got some wild pawpaws ripening as we speak. I know PA Golden is quite early. Shenandoah is late-ish, I think because of the size of the fruit (Susquehanna and Sunflower are the only ones I've heard of that bear later). Rappahannock ripens just before it. Overleese, I assume, ripens early because it's closely related to NC-1, and NC-1 is quite early. I don't know about the others. Good luck! __________________ Whitby Ontario, Zone 6A Growing Natalina, Ficazzana, Hardy Chicago, Violette de Bordeaux, Stella Also growing peaches, cherries and pawpaws.

snaglpus

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Posted 1474861028	Reply with quote #3

Ok thank you very much ! It helps a lot ! I thought there would be more pawpaw growers out there. Hmmmm.... __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

heystevo

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Posted 1474884233 · Edited	Reply with quote #4

I can't seem to post my replies here. I'll try one more time but I'll probably have to just go on the computer tomorrow and do this over again. Anyway, I do grow a lot of pawpaws here in South Central Washington state. __________________ Steve Hagerman

Smyfigs

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Posted 1474892711	Reply with quote #5

Dennis, can you describe the taste of a pawpaw? Im curious. Can you grow this tree in a pot? __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

Rewton

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Posted 1474904690	Reply with quote #6

Dennis, I'm planning on planting two varieties side by side: Sunflower (late) and PA Golden (early). Sunflower is supposed to be self fertile, at least to some degree but I was hoping they would cross pollinate each other even though the ripening times are different. Is this not true? __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

snaglpus

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Posted 1474910420	Reply with quote #7

Hi Meg! You can grow PawPaws in pots for about 2 years. After that, you have to plant them in the ground. They have an extremely long tap root! When the seed first starts to germinate, the tap root is 12 inches long! Here is a lady who started growing them here in NC about 5 years ago.: Steve, yes Sunflower is self fertile BUT you will get a better crop with another tree close by so it can cross pollinate. In my opinion, if you plant an early variety next to a late variety the bloom times will be off! You have to plant them together according to their blooming season. That's why I started this post. I have over 30 Paw Paws and all are going in the ground! I'm getting rid of 125 figs just to make way for Paw paws. Most of mine are named cultivars. Seedling will produce Paw Paws but it's unknown what you will end up with once the tree fruits. __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

indestructible87

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Posted 1474932414	Reply with quote #8

I thought I remembered seeing a few flowering or ripening charts from kysu or by Peterson a while back, I did try to find them last night but could not... __________________ Travis Pittsburgh, PA

Rewton

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Posted 1474942803	Reply with quote #9

Dennis, after I saw your reply I did some research on this and found a very relevant research paper: http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/ppf/Pomper%20et%20al.%2062(3).pdf See Table 3 in the paper. The peak flowering dates for PA Golden and Sunflower are pretty much right around the same date. The differences in ripening seem to be due to what happens after the flowers form. So I think I'm good with those two varieties. There were some other varieties that flowered particularly late or early though: "Late-flowering cultivars were ‘Middletown’ and ‘Wells’, which were about 8 to 10 days later than the early flowering cultivars ‘NC-1’ and ‘Overleese’, and the advanced selection 2-54 (Table 3)." __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

snaglpus

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Posted 1474946713	Reply with quote #10

Thanks Steve! I'm loving that paper! __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

Smyfigs

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Posted 1474951105	Reply with quote #11

Thx, Dennis. I can only grow stuff in pots. My lot is tiny :-(. I shall love Pawpas vicareously through you.., __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

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