Côtia Verdeal still growing and ripening

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lampo

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Posted 1382396305	Reply with quote #1

Very prolific cultivar, may well ripen figs into November if weather helps. Fig skin no longer as clean as in summer, already showing some colder night scars- But taste, sweetness and flavors are still there. Francisco Attached Images P1040949.JPG (104.97 KB, 76 views) P1040950.JPG (97.53 KB, 77 views) P1040952.JPG (96.95 KB, 76 views) P1040954.JPG (99.84 KB, 75 views)

Tam

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Posted 1382396613	Reply with quote #2

Francisco: Your figs are very nice and tasty. Your photos are beautiful too, thanks for sharing. Best, Tam

lampo

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Posted 1382397095	Reply with quote #3

Thank you Tam, I agree and say that you must have a refined palate! I even dare to say that fellows with a certain dislike for white figs, if given the chance, to taste this one, would certainly love it! Francisco

OttawanZ5

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Posted 1382399694	Reply with quote #4

Thanks for posting this, Francisco. There is a variety Verdeal. What is the prefix 'Cotia' ? Will you consider this variety as a 'late ripening' type ? __________________ Ottawan-Z5a, Canada

Ruuting

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Posted 1382402879	Reply with quote #5

Francisco, good to see you're still picking, photographing, and enjoying figs late into the fall. I was hypnotized looking at all the juiciness in those figs. I would cut my tongue licking that knife! Have you been seeing cotio verdeal ripen all season, or do they get a later start? Do they take longer to ripen? Looking back at this (almost over) season, which was your favorite? Which one surprised you? __________________ Rui Southeast CT, zone 6B

lampo

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Posted 1382404265	Reply with quote #6

Ottawan, Thank you for your interest. Let me try my best to make a bit of light on the subject. I may also have contributed to some eventual confusion. There are in Portugal the following figs bearing those names individually or associated... Verdeal - one word only - a white large Smyrna variety , a very flat fig with marked ribs a particular green skin (sort of jade green), red/carmine pulp very close to the one shown tonight, with a great number of very tiny seeds. Dries well, but difficult to find and not easy to root Côtio - just one word - an average size Common white fig also a flat but more roundish shape, green skin and light strawberry/pink pulp, highly productive tree, once ripe it sticks to its branch and dries there until it is picked up. For centuries the most popular as it was the backbone of our dry fig exports. Farmers would force polination of Côtios to get better yields of a more flavored and bigger fig. There are also black côtios, similar to white's but difficult to find. Côtio-Verdeal - two words - a white large Common fig, green skin and red/carmine pulp, very prolific and with Violeta and Black Bourjassote they may ripen figs through November. For some reason, this variety does not easily accept caprification. Very few people grow Verdeal figs (Smyrna)... a lot grow Côtio and some, not many, have Côtio- Verdeal. People tend not to be very specific when talking figs. When they say Côtio, I think that there is no confusion.. and when saying Verdeal, in most cases they mean Côtio-Verdeal Hope this clarifies any confusion Francisco

kubota1

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Posted 1382404629	Reply with quote #7

Francisco, As usual, you've got my mouth watering. Great pictures! __________________ Art- Western Pa. 6a

OttawanZ5

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Posted 1382412533	Reply with quote #8

Thanks Francisco for the good explanation. It raises another question. Could "Verdal" ( http://www.galgoni.com/FRA/Fotos_Maxi/056.htm ) be a variation in name of the same fig in a different region around Mediterranean basin? __________________ Ottawan-Z5a, Canada

rcantor

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Posted 1382413148	Reply with quote #9

Lovely photos! __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

elin

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Posted 1382418072	Reply with quote #10

Hi. great pictures. same confusion here . the general population just know how to eat the figs but not the particulars about the varieites... __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

lampo

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Posted 1382445298	Reply with quote #11

Thank you fellows for watching and commenting. Rui, Yes this variety is very syrupy and shows that attractive red/carmine pulp colors...nothing will be left on the knife! Commences fruiting early/mid August and goes through November. My very best, for my taste are the two Smyrna - Incharios Preto e Branco, then Violeta, Quarteira, this one.. etc The surprise was the quality and size of fruits this season, particularly Violeta.. with nice, big and juicy figs. Ottawan, The 'galgoni' fig you mention (verdal) does not seem to be related to Côtio Verdeal. I believe its name comes from the dark green skin that induces you to believe that is is not yet ripe..if you see what I mean. -verde- in latin rooted languages mean the color green, but also is an adjective, for instance, for a fruit, to tell that it is not ripe yet. Now the news - bad first : it is raining a lot now ! a bad thing for my late figs (there will be one or two exceptions) and the good ones: 'in ground' trees, figs, almonds, carobs, olives, etc., which did not get a drop of water for the past 4 months, must be very happy now and, looking at them in the fields you do feel and have to share their joy. Francisco

Dieseler

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Posted 1382463288	Reply with quote #12

Fransico im curious how is the skin on this cultivar thick or tender during its peak season ripening ?

lampo

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Posted 1382475311	Reply with quote #13

Martin, Côt/Verdeal skin ´keeps being tender along the season ..Aug/September figs will display a number of skin cracks , which fade away on late figs- Violeta has a harder skin, although peeling well.. late Violetas get rather hard specially on the flat zone around the ostiole. But the hardest of all is 'Couro duro' . Francisco

Dieseler

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Posted 1382475511	Reply with quote #14

Thanks Fransico. That fig you posted pictures i bet is one of the top better light types.

jdarden1963

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Posted 1382477998	Reply with quote #15

They look amazing! __________________ Jules Zone 8a NE Texas Wish List: LSU Thibodeaux, LSU Red, Kathleen's Black, Lebanese Red, Jolly Tiger, Black Madeira, Purple Passion, Zingerilla (sp?), Martin's Purple Black, BA-1, White Ischia, any red fig, any dark fig or unknown

dust

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Posted 1382482685	Reply with quote #16

Franscisco;two word with 3 different name of variety.thanks for your explanation __________________ Asep wish list black madeira,CdD blanc &grise

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