ADelmanto
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Posted 1398860049
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After last winter I've learned my lesson. I'm heating my greenhouse. Only question is how? I have a $500 budget and I want to heat with 100lb propane tank. This leaves me with $350 for the unit. I was thinking something like:
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fignutty
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Posted 1398863593
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There are heat loss calculators and heating cost calculators on the web. I'll try to post a link.http://www.littlegreenhouse.com/heat-calc.shtml
Chivas
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Posted 1398865434
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I would suggest to leave them dormant in the coldest parts of the year and you can also save on heat this way. If you would get down to O F then it might make more sense to keep the temp around 34-36 then just have them wake up earlier like half February or so when it could save you on heating costs and you get better light outside.
blake
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Posted 1398867835
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Make sure you have proper ventilation. A friend of mine had some problems this past winter with leaf burn on the plants he overwintered. He traced it back to the sulfer dioxide byproduct produced by his propane heater. I think a new vent solved the problem for him.
needaclone
1346812939
Posted 1398869336
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Is propane the only option? How about a small wood pellet stove?
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Chivas
1283819505
Posted 1398869715
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What I have seen is that you can inflate the double layer of poly with a drier duct and a wind powered fan, but the draw back is if there is no wind no inflation occurs. You can also build a smaller hoop house within the hoop house to create a secondary protected climate and it will hold in a lot more heat, the problem being is this is usually done as a low tunnel inside so not too big for trees. Rocket stoves supposedly do well in the greenhouses and if you add a thermal mass to it you can maximize your heat retention also saving on fuel. I imagine if you have an exhaust on any heater you could run the stove pipe through it and save the thermal mass though.
greg88
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Posted 1398870398
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With electric heaters and this COLD winter, my 8x6 greeenhouse added about $100.00 / month to my bill during the worst parts.
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ADelmanto
1359774201
Posted 1398870484
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Propane is easy. Auto start and no maintenance except for maybe filling the tank 1x in the winter. So what kind of unit to use?
http://answers.northerntool.com/answers/0394/product/27977/procom-vent-free-trifuel-blue-flame-wall-heater-25-000-btu-model-mtf300tba-b-questions-answers/questions.htm
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drphil69
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Posted 1398911819
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ADelmanto
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Posted 1398948684
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drphil69
I'm new to this, but if only for figs, why the high temps? Dormant they are fine beliw 30F, right?
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greysmith
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Posted 1398950402
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I'm looking at this http://www.bensoninstitute.org/Publication/Manuals/Walipini.pdf as being the best solution for me. Of course I have a tractor with backhoe and front end loader to dig it with, and a nice south facing slope where I can dig it in but still be high enough to put a french drain under it. But, that would be more for a winter garden. For figs I'm thinking more a trench up on the top of the hill that would keep the roots and trunks down where the geothermal effect would keep them at a constant temperature, and then do a shallow hoop greenhouse over the crowns. Let them get enough cold to go dormant then put a layer of straw and a tarp over it all for a thermal blanket to get them through the bitter cold. You could wake them up early in just the greenhouse but have them protected from the last few frosts. Then take the cover off for access in the summer. You could have big trees at a convenient height for picking, and protected enough for even the harshest winter. You can still do all the bells and whistles with drains and irrigation but save a lot on structure and heating.
RichinNJ
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Posted 1398991182
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Kerosene Tube heater.... Worked well for me this winter and the plants you saw when you stopped by. Just have to keep the tank full. I think that it's better to heat the enclosure to 60 and let it cool down to 20 or 30 and then turn it on again. The start up on these kerosene heaters is dirty but they are fairly clean when they are running.
