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pitangadiego

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Posted 1192405114	Reply with quote #1

Bought this as an unknown, about 10" tall with one small purple on it. Thought it might be a Pastiliere. In it's third year, it dropped much of it's fruit, but the ones that remained were the size of a half dollar, or larger, and were fabulous in flavor. It isn't what I thought it was, but it will be a keeper, __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

Forrest

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Posted 1192414011	Reply with quote #2

Wow, it has an incredibly thin skin. edit: True, obvious statements like ^ don't really add much. I just felt a little bad about always looking and not replying to all these picture threads. __________________ San Diego, North County Coastal

Chills

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Posted 1192491419	Reply with quote #3

That is one amazing looking fig. I couldn't even guess how many "unknowns" you have collected over the years. (especially after reading that you have 20 Celeste's alone...or more likely 1 Celeste, you hope, and 19 unknowns) Chills __________________ ~Chills Zone 6b Michigan 1/4 mile from a large lake growing: figs, kiwis and anything else that will fruit here for me.

gorgi

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Posted 1192495478	Reply with quote #4

I do have a young (stardard) UCD Pastilliere fig. Harvested my first couple a little while ago, but it took me 1-2 days after that before I actually took the picture. Sooo, apart from me being a bad photographer; see: http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/view/mb/file?username=figs4funforum&id=433822 George (NJ). __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

pitangadiego

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Posted 1192502930	Reply with quote #5

I had one or two fruit off of my little Pastiliere, but they did not compare with this big boy. I could have probably let this ripen one or two more days, at which time it would have been lethal, I think. Hope this one keeps more fruit next season. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

gorgi

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Posted 1192505488	Reply with quote #6

What 'big boy' ? __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

pitangadiego

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Posted 1192508285	Reply with quote #7

The fig, gorgi, the fig. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

moshepherdess

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Posted 1192540497	Reply with quote #8

hi jon, 'big boy' for sure. the color showing on my computer is intense, i haven't seen a ruby that would compare with that beauty. and 'incredibly thin skin' is a good description, forrest, i hadn't noticed that until you said it, i was so lost in the color. also, no cracks or blemishes. wow! if you have any plants from this lunker and think it needs trialed in missouri, you may send one along with my others this fall!!! my mouth is watering. elizabeth __________________ Elizabeth near KC Missouri zone5b 7b or higher in hoophouse

fignut

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Posted 1192585250	Reply with quote #9

Jon, That's one good looking fig. But if it's just ripening for you now in San Diego, do you think it's probably too late for us folk in the North East?

pitangadiego

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Posted 1192594994	Reply with quote #10

That is part of the rub. There were plenty of earlier figs on the tree that did not persist. The ones ripening are the last ones on the tree, not the first. If the persistence issue fades with maturity, as I think it might, then it would probably be early enough. Time will tell. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

agitatov

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Posted 1192619275	Reply with quote #11

Hello, this is Pastiliere for sure. I have the same cultivar labelled as Pastiliere in pot bought from the famous French nursery Baud. It is 3 years old and although it lost about 50% oft its figs in late August, the other (especially the later) fruits were of outstanding quality (thin skin, a fruity dominance with less sugar than some other varieties, but still nicely balanced to me). It´s a very beautiful fig, especially the one on the picture.

paully22

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Posted 1293368783	Reply with quote #12

Jon, any up date on this Unknown Pastiliere for 2010 ? thanks.

pitangadiego

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Posted 1293381343	Reply with quote #13

Negatory, good buddy. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

dfoster25

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Posted 1361324153	Reply with quote #14

Bump, three years later. Any update? __________________ Zone 6, SE MICHIGAN -14F 1-7-14 -23F 2-?-15 6F 1-18-16

deerhunter16b

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Posted 1361325508	Reply with quote #15

wow....beautiful color __________________ john Zone 7a

Dieseler

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Posted 1361327088	Reply with quote #16

Jon now its a little over 5 years since that October 2007 post . Is that tree dropping figs still or ?

pitangadiego

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Posted 1361327369	Reply with quote #17

It is currently setting a breba crop. Still drops a lot f the main crop. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

Nichole

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Posted 1361328406	Reply with quote #18

want SO BAD!! __________________ Seattle area - Zone 8b http://www.niroha.com Fig Inventory https://sites.google.com/site/nicholesgardeninventory/fig-trees Wish list: Barbillone, Black Triana, Brooklyn Dark, Brooklyn White, Figo Branco, Figo Preto, Grantham Royal, Grisse de St Jean, Honey Jumbo, LSU Gold, LSU Scott's Yellow, Matta, Noire De Caromb, Panevino Dark, Roja, Syrian Long, Uncle Corky's Honey Delight

Dieseler

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Posted 1361328697	Reply with quote #19

Thanks Jon.

Gina

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Posted 1361330173	Reply with quote #20

After I started acquiring figs and learned a bit more, there were 3 varieties I really, really, really wanted. Based on photos alone, this was one of them. Glad to say I got it (thank you!) and it was easy to root. It's also a good grower and I've already moved up a couple into 5 gallon containers. I hope I get a fruit or two later this year. :) __________________ WillsC's new fig forum: http://www.Ourfigs.com (and blueberries)

musillid

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Posted 1361361826	Reply with quote #21

Boy, I'll bet this one just went to the top of everyone's list! __________________ Dale non compost mentis in Zone 6a

bullet08

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Posted 1361365620	Reply with quote #22

growing fig for me is more fun than anything else. hard to root, hard to grow, hard to produce figs. all frustrating, but all fun. Pastiliere is on top of my list along with UCD Black Ischia. anything that anyone says "hard" i want them. i guess that's why i always wanted Black Madeira. i heard so many horror stories about it. i'm only missing UDC Black Ischia. and i'll get that darn cutting and see what i can do with it. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

Bass

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Posted 1361371348	Reply with quote #23

I had one for a few years and dropped the main crop. most likely it's either a san pedro or a smyrna type. Keep us updated on the progress of your breba crop. __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

zaitun

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Posted 1361374137	Reply with quote #24

I have one from Baud , but I am not so lucky since the main crop is always drop in my climate. Salam Zaitun

baust55

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Posted 1361375028	Reply with quote #25

that's an awsome looking fig jon. AUSTIN __________________ AUSTIN Read more mad non- scientist stuff ....check out my post on KITTY LITTER ! http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/kitty-litter-really-kitty-litter-7398708?pid=1287129765#post1287129765 "I grow fruit of the wine!" Zone 5 Fig trees I have : Hardy Chicago , Weeping Black , Ginoso , Excel , VEBT , and Genovese Nero . My Wish list: Panache, Florea,Desert King , RdB, Marseilles black vs, Vdb , Abruzzi, JH Adriatic , Nero 600 , MvsB, Malta Black,

saxonfig

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Posted 1361390142	Reply with quote #26

I've been growing this one for a couple of years now. I think I started mine in winter 2010/11. It likes to root. It likes to grow. It even likes to make little figlets. It just doesn't seem to be too crazy about making ripe figs. I found a couple pics to add: Attached Images Jon's_Unk_Pastillere.jpg (411.63 KB, 46 views) J._U._P..jpg (373.56 KB, 48 views) Unk_Pastillere_Fruit.jpg (358.52 KB, 68 views) __________________ Fig Well And Prosper! Bill - SW KY. Zone 6b. 36.5N I'm fruitnut on ebay.

cheahafig

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Posted 1361511541	Reply with quote #27

What a beautiful fig. Gorgeous colors, inside and out. Even the eye is beautiful. __________________ Donald A.Beck

shah8

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Posted 1361515144	Reply with quote #28

I have been wondering whether if it's the case that Pastillier mostly just needs to be in ground, and fully adult 10 years + before you have regular crops. __________________ Especially desired figs: UCD 187-25, UCD 200-48, UCD 157-17, UCD 309-B1, Princesa, Black Madeira, high quality sugar fig that ripens Sept-Oct. Probable desired fig: Smith, St Jean, JH Adriatic, CddB, Gulbun, Pastilliere, Sucrette Rooting: Smith, CDDB--this pretty much means I have my fun tries (tho' important since they are truly desirable), and only interested for this year: Gulbun, BM, 187-25, or something wildly exotic or precious that nobody has any good reason to send me.

Gina

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Posted 1361515370	Reply with quote #29

The fig initially mentioned in this thread, and the photos, is 'unknown Pastiliere', not 'Pastiliere'. Apparently there is a difference. __________________ WillsC's new fig forum: http://www.Ourfigs.com (and blueberries)

shah8

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Posted 1361516576	Reply with quote #30

probably a sport. __________________ Especially desired figs: UCD 187-25, UCD 200-48, UCD 157-17, UCD 309-B1, Princesa, Black Madeira, high quality sugar fig that ripens Sept-Oct. Probable desired fig: Smith, St Jean, JH Adriatic, CddB, Gulbun, Pastilliere, Sucrette Rooting: Smith, CDDB--this pretty much means I have my fun tries (tho' important since they are truly desirable), and only interested for this year: Gulbun, BM, 187-25, or something wildly exotic or precious that nobody has any good reason to send me.

Dieseler

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Posted 1361546272	Reply with quote #31

Quote: Originally Posted by Gina The fig initially mentioned in this thread, and the photos, is 'unknown Pastiliere', not 'Pastiliere'. Apparently there is a difference. Yes its unknown according to Jon and yet it still drops the figs thats too bad , kinda reminds me of the UcDavis that was growing in our yard . Beautiful fig when a fully ripe one could be picked (sigh) and the taste was excellent one of best in yard but most of crop always dropped off and very very few ripened properly. Very frustrating the plants that drop figs for most growers. Kinda sounds like Jon's unknown pastiliere and most likely needs the wasp's help. To date i know by growing Ucdavis Pastilere Drops bad. Reading Bauds Pastiliere drops Jons Unknown Pastiliere drops.

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Posted 1361548055	Reply with quote #32

i live not too far from nuclear power plant. maybe mine will mutate and hold on to the figs :) it would be a plus if it glows in the dark! x) __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

Dieseler

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Posted 1361554821	Reply with quote #33

Bullet go to the that plants water cooling discharge and get water for your plants mutation experiment. lol

Gina

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Posted 1361556367	Reply with quote #34

LOL, I'd rather have the wasp. __________________ WillsC's new fig forum: http://www.Ourfigs.com (and blueberries)

dfoster25

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Posted 1361556471	Reply with quote #35

Im thankful for all the info. I don't have space to play around with it if its going to drop fruit. Man, those photos sure do make you want it though. __________________ Zone 6, SE MICHIGAN -14F 1-7-14 -23F 2-?-15 6F 1-18-16

Gina

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Posted 1378609300	Reply with quote #36

From my small unknown Past. plants started this past less than a year ago, I've had one already ripen. I picked it too soon however. Ack! And one just about ripe now. There are more on the other small U.P. plants too. I haven't noticed any dropping of fruits, but then I've got so many 'small trees' to keep track of I might not have noticed. Hopefully the one that is almost ripe won't get picked by some critter. If it's still there tomorrow, think I'll bring it in at night till it properly ripens and I can really taste it. Might go out with a flashlight now and bring it in. Now that's dedication, lol. (edit: it's now safe from harm and sitting in its 5 gallon pot in the foyer. My that fruit looks pretty - just like in the photos. Larger than I thought it would be however.) There is the possibility the wasp is local. I've seen it in some caprifigs about 20 miles away, but in my area there's mainly lemon and avocado orchards. I also have a zidi with fruit. But the figs are still small and green. __________________ WillsC's new fig forum: http://www.Ourfigs.com (and blueberries)

snaglpus

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Posted 1378610504	Reply with quote #37

My 2 trees did the exact same thing as Jon's. Today, the figs are the star from the dark side! __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

Gina

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Posted 1396228060	Reply with quote #38

Here's a photo of one of the very young fruits on my year old Unk Pastiliere. The photo was taken about 3-4 weeks ago. Hopefully it will ripen. __________________ WillsC's new fig forum: http://www.Ourfigs.com (and blueberries)

Dieseler

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Posted 1396367827	Reply with quote #39

Looking forward to ripe fruit pictures.

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1396368663	Reply with quote #40

look at my avatar Martin

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1396371195	Reply with quote #41

Quote: Originally Posted by pitangadiego It is currently setting a breba crop. Still drops a lot f the main crop. How does this variety compair with Ronde de Bordeaux ? it awfully looks like one.

Optimist

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Posted 1396373573	Reply with quote #42

A real Pastilière is a onecrop variety. This is what all available French sources say. Some Breba figs occur in spring, but usually fall off. Pastilière is known to give a very early autumn crop - in France from August on, same as Ronde de Bordeaux. Ronde de Bordeaux is also said to be a onecrop variety, but sometimes can produce a small amount of breba figs. It has a much more vigourous growth than Pastilière, the fruit are sweeter than Pastilière figs. RdB branches and produces suckers easily, Pastilière doesn't. Both varieties don't need the fig wasp. Maybe the varieties you're talking about are only similar but not exactly the same as the ones they have in France. Nevertheless, your pictures look great!

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1396373701	Reply with quote #43

very useful information Optimist, thank you.

Optimist

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Posted 1396385281	Reply with quote #44

I've just found found the following site - thought you might like it http://www.planetfig.com/cultivars/fcveng8586.html Cheers

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1396385614	Reply with quote #45

what?!! it says Rouge de Bordeaux and Pasteliere are same . no, no, no....I'm so confused now. I mean if it is, that means all this time that I wanted RdB...I had it all along because I have several sours Pastelieres? hm... This can't be right. Edit: ...or, am I confusing Rouge De Bordeaux with Ronde De Bordeaux? (ugh, scratching my head)

Optimist

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Posted 1396386290	Reply with quote #46

You're right, it is confusing, but ROUGE DE BORDEAUX is synonym to PASTILIÈRE. You probably wanted RONDE DE BORDEAUX.

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1396387671	Reply with quote #47

I want them ALL! LOL I don't know how to find Ronde De Bordeaux ;/

RichinNJ

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Posted 1396394135	Reply with quote #48

Quote: Originally Posted by Aaron4USA I want them ALL! LOL I don't know how to find Ronde De Bordeaux ;/ When are you going to start growing all of these cutting you get from people Aaron?

Gina

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Posted 1396397573	Reply with quote #49

Quote: How does this variety compair with Ronde de Bordeaux ? it awfully looks like one. The leaves of Unknown Pastiliere and RdB are completely different. __________________ WillsC's new fig forum: http://www.Ourfigs.com (and blueberries)

Gina

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Posted 1396397798	Reply with quote #50

Quote: Originally Posted by Dieseler Looking forward to ripe fruit pictures. Me too - and this year I have a functioning camera! Last year I got a few ripe ones on the plants in their first year. They were exactly like Jon's pictures of ripe fruits at the beginning of this thread. __________________ WillsC's new fig forum: http://www.Ourfigs.com (and blueberries)

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