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This young tree rooted from scion in the spring of 2013, grew well and produced 6 figs - 4 in the main upright trunk plus 2 on a side sucker left expressly to source buds for grafts and/or an air layer.
One fig from the main trunk failed pollination... all others ripen.

On a previous topic have shown the sequence of growth of this young plant:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/zidi-a-fig-to-remember-7020872?trail=50&highlight=zidi

The fig being shown now grew on the sucker. Being late, I feared not to be given the correct ammount of pollination... but it made it.
Good question for Harvey's doubts about .. for how long wasps are active carrying pollen to receptive figs..with this particular Zidi this may have probably happened by mid July, when no wasps were on sight and all Profichi had dried or rotten.

It is a very large fruit for a main crop : - 127 gram  (4.48 ounces).
Aromas and flavors are much more concentrated on this late fig..a jewel!

If some of you did a similar exercise, may be the results are somehow different as there are apparently 4 strains of this same variety with distinct carachteristics.

Francisco

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Wow! Congratulations!
My young Marabout is developing figs right now and I had the same question.
Will they be pollinated in September?
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Nice, really nice.
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That is huge fig and looks gorgeous, a great one to finish it's season on, hope  you are getting many more next year.
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Thank you all for your comments.

Igor,
Do you mean Marabout or you had in mind to say Zidi ?
I have no more Zidi figs..this one was just the last for this season...may be more next year.
As for Marabout, have picked up the first fig last week and there is still another one on its branch. almost ready.
If the fruit you mention as 'developing now' are sufficiently grown up to be receptive (*) , I wouldn't be surprised if a lone wasp wandering about pays a visit and does the job.
With the abundance of male trees in your area you may expect to see some late but still active insects.

(*) from approx  diameters of 1/2" (12 to 13 mm) on,  figs seem to be ready for pollination.
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Francisco,
I , once again because of you, am so glad that I am growing those Zidi... such a nice variety it seems, can't wait to taste them (maybe next year).

Igor,
for experimental purposes, get some of the Glendale Church capris (which are full of wasps) and cut them open and throw under the Marabout, they will find the figs.
That's what happened to my Capri sucker that has figs now (i showed it few days ago) I saw with my own eyes how the wasp dashed into the fig, which was about an inch in diameter and disappeared in the Ostiole , was fun to watch it happen.
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Francisco hi
those zidi show great promise!!
How are they in relation to inchario preto?
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Thank you all for your comments.

Igor,
Do you mean Marabout or you had in mind to say Zidi ?
I have no more Zidi figs..this one was just the last for this season...may be more next year.
As for Marabout, have picked up the first fig last week and there is still another one on its branch. almost ready.
If the fruit you mention as 'developing now' are sufficiently grown up to be receptive (*) , I wouldn't be surprised if a lone wasp wandering about pays a visit and does the job.
With the abundance of male trees in your area you may expect to see some late but still active insects.

(*) from approx  diameters of 1/2" (12 to 13 mm) on,  figs seem to be ready for pollination.


Francisco,
Yes, it is a Marabout, the figs are about 3-4 mm in diameter, still tiny. I think they are too little to be receptive. That is why I was curious about the positive outcome since it is so late in the season. 
Usually I have a lot of wasps in the area but have not seen any ripe capris, they are all gone by now.  I guess I just need to wait for a few weeks to see the result.
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Thank you all for your nice comments
I hope to have contributed to boost the demand for these Zidi plants and cuttings.

Eli,
Think It's too soon for comparison. They both are great figs but Zidi needs first to grow in ground for at least two to three more seasons.

Igor,
At that size they are excessively small and I doubt that they will grow to proper size and get pollinated in time.
But sometimes we have pleasant surprises.

Francisco
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Francisco the inchario I had was first season but it had the nicest soft skin I have seen, if only the wasps come regularly I would be a happy man. Out of 6 fruits only one got pollinated.
I hope some wasps remember my address for next season:)

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Elin, what state are you in? you say zone 10.
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Elin, what state are you in? you say zone 10.


Israel?
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I thought he was in US
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Eli,

You must try and root a couple of diff wild ones and make them grow near your other figs...this is the first step,.. then when they show up the living quarters are ready and they will move in and establish!
The sooner you do it the better  .Ideally on coming dormancy
good luck!
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Israel -like zone 10, anyhow i have already two males waiting to grow some embryos next season probably.
should have done it before but i tought these wasps are in the neighbourhood so i didnt grow a male even though Francisco advised in his first pm's , anyhow well see about those capri's
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Eli,
Keep those potted wild figs well fed and not excessively exposed to direct sun light .
They may start to show a few buttons...Capri rootless cuttings will take time before they show the first figs, approx 3 years.
Meanwhile, figs on your neighborhood will go dormant (no leaves) and this is the ideal timing to look in the wild for the male figs.. May be you find one or more and get a rooted sucker..this could expedite their availability near your Incharios and all others.
Francisco
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Francisco trust me , i have been everywhere round my hood but no capri's found.

i think you right though they show embryo's late .
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Eli,

I know sometimes is difficult but...on a couple of occasions I have been surprised by
a 'secret garden' !?

Francisco
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Francisco the lure of quick money made many developers turn many green areas into concrete blocks and building. Still you at right sometime if curious enough we can find a gem between the cracks as they say...

Is algarve showing the same trend?
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Eli,
Unfortunately yes! That's the trend... I have been dreaming with a giant concrete saw to cut and dump those roomy caverns on the nearby shores to provide free and ample housing for octopus, squid, snappers, congers, meagres etc.. and to give a boost to the biomass !
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these are not kosher , but I still Used to enjoy a good noodle soup with some shrimps and squid.
After I got married,my wife made eat only kosher so no shrimp for me :(
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