GregMartin
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I grew up a batch of seedlings for the first time this year and found a few have red stems as opposed to the green stems on most. Does this trait last into adulthood? Any cultivars with red stems?
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It did not for me for all 100%. The plants kept the redness of the young shoots only, the mature wood is greenish or later became brown. Seeds from what variety did you germinate?
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GregMartin
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This was from a batch of "baby mountain" dried figs I got from nuts.com. Too bad the color doesn't hang in there in a dramatic way into adulthood. Would be beautiful.
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SoniSoni Congratulations for getting them started. I planted some seeds of dried Turkish figs over a month ago and no sprouts yet. They may have been dried with high heat and not viable. :-( I've never seen red stems but the Raspberry Latte cuttings I'm starting have red growth tips. I cant imagine they'll open as red leaves but they're very pretty red tips now.
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GregMartin
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Does anyone think this might be F. afganistanica? http://www.nuts.com/driedfruit/figs/mountain.html
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GregMartin
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In this video someone buys and grows out figs that looked like mine, both fruit and seedling. They speculate that it's F. afganistanica, but I've thought of these as Shirazi figs.
Looks like you guys have already covered these figs: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3895253 If they are F. carica then great, but if they are F. afgainistanica then this brings up another question...can the two species be crossed?
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Very cool, the leaves look interesting too. Though, they are still juvenile leaves and might change.
I wonder about the species too.
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greenfig
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The fig in the video is not red stemmed like yours though...
I have an Afghan fig but it looks a bit different. It is a 2 year plant and I have not seen any figs on it.
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elin
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Hi
I have few varieties that show red tips . The other few show red leaf stalk. This phenotypes
Change depending on sun exposure as i have noticed same variety doesnt act the samee
In different locations of my property.
Anyhow i think that it is nich to see the range of leaf shapes and colors occuting with figs...
Probably also relates to their mutation rate ...
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persianmd2orchard
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Greg, those are different than I thought looking at your source link it says Uzbeckistan and I see the photo of the fruit. It could be similar to Shirazi but it looks like it's something similar but different. I don't think it's f afghan i think it's Uzbeck's version of Shiraz's Sabz. Are they bone dry like prettyhard? That looks browner/darker than Shirazi and still more moist. I've never heard of ficus afghanistanica commercial fruit production for drying figs and haven't heard yet of any good flavor or even edible reports of it. So I wouldn't think its afghan, seems like lots of seedlings have cool and intricate leaves when just sprouting.
persianmd2orchard
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PS your seedlings are beautiful, such beautiful colors :). If I had to guess, you have a good smyrna cultivar from Uzbeckistan with origins in the mountains that is now cultivated for commercial drying.
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Eli, does the red pigmentation express itself in sun or shade? Pooya, the figs are quite dry and usually look more like the Shirazi figs than they do like that picture. I'll mail some down to you for your opinion. Would love it if any of the seedlings are hardy, smyrna or not.
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persianmd2orchard
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sounds great, Iranian dried goods are sometimes repackaged and resold to be from another place like with saffron. who knows maybe distributor can comment on where actually grown.
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Hey Greg. Did you ever take any additional pictures of your seedlings? I've seen/eaten the dried Turkish figs at Wal-Mart. I know others have tried growing them too. I may have to give it a shot. Very interesting stuff.
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red shoots, DFIC 0023 Palmata Variant
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Hi Bill, my apologies...no additional pictures. This seedling was part of a block of seedlings that I started that are currently outside in the snow (I feel bad for them, but when you're trying to make an omelet....) Hopefully it'll pull through ok, but we'll see. Danny, the DFIC 0023 is a beauty. I love the bluish blush and the red petioles. If it wasn't seemingly so frost tender I'd get one to play with.
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