HarveyC
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Nice job, you'll have a fig forest in no time at all! :)
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Making room for more figs.
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Watch out...there's no turning back! lol
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Wish you'd warned me 4 weeks ago, rofl.
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The fun continues with the delivery of our first truckload of cement rings for planters.
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Best of luck with them! Do the planters have holes in the bottom or is the bottom open or is it sealed?
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Thamks. The bottoms are open.
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As this is my first time to grow figs, I'm not sure what to expect in the way of growth rates, but this Brown Turkey air layer was potted only 5 weeks ago, and has put on amazing growth as you can see from the before and after pics here.
Is this typical for the faster growing varieties? It already has buds above each leaf which I assume will be future figs?
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That's faster than what most of us in temperate climates see. Good job.
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They grow too fast there, I would grow them in a pot with roots only coming out from the sides only so that the trees can be root pruned to have some measure of control over their growth. Watch out for bugs that would somehow lay eggs in the fig and worm like babies comes out from the ripe figs. Happened to my friend and tree borers too. It was a mess & challenge to rid them.
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Originally Posted by HarveyC That's faster than what most of us in temperate climates see. Good job.
Thanks, Harvey. Beginner's luck? A particularly strong scion? A fast growing examplar that I should clone? A good rootstock candidate for future grafting onto slower growing varieties? Just an example of what to expect from a SIP and 90° temps? I don't know, but I will have fun trying to find out.
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Originally Posted by paully22 They grow too fast there, I would grow them in a pot with roots only coming out from the sides only so that the trees can be root pruned to have some measure of control over their growth. Watch out for bugs that would somehow lay eggs in the fig and worm like babies comes out from the ripe figs. Happened to my friend and tree borers too. It was a mess & challenge to rid them.
In addition to SIPs I am growing a couple of figs in larger "root control" (air pruning) pots to see if there is any benefit over a sub-irrigated planter.
I expect as the plant gets bigger the small 2.5 gallon root space will limit overall growth.
I am aware that at these temperatures problems can race out of control quickly, I am very quick to trim off any leaves that show problems before the problem spreads. I definitely will watch for boring insects, I lost a whole crop of zucchini to them before.
But I'm not sure why you think fast growth itself is problematic?
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Wow. It good...
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Fast growth makes tree large. Harvest and pest control etc more challenging. A fig tree in ground when pruned will produce branches where nodes will generally stretch further apart given no change in root base that would continue feeding and pushing new growth. Besides, your zone virtually allows the tree to feed year round. Even in my zone me and some fig hobbyist runs into such issues. Hence we now grow figs in pots and let the roots feed into the ground. Every so often we would root prune to check vigour or you can call it balancing the root base & canopy.
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Originally Posted by paully22 Fast growth makes tree large. Harvest and pest control etc more challenging. A fig tree in ground when pruned will produce branches where nodes will generally stretch further apart given no change in root base that would continue feeding and pushing new growth. Besides, your zone virtually allows the tree to feed year round. Even in my zone me and some fig hobbyist runs into such issues. Hence we know grow figs in pots and let the roots feed into the ground. Every so often we would root prune to check vigour or you can call it balancing the root base & canopy.
If I understand you correctly you're suggesting something like a half buried pot with holes in the sides to allow the roots to grow out into the soil, but still allow easy access to the longer roots for periodic pruning? So I don't have to dig them up like this poor fellow?
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I used to bury my pots 2 to 3 inches deep with many side holes. If my pot has a middle hole, I plug it up. These days, I do not bury my pots but let them sit on top of the soil. This makes it easier for me to root prune. I do not root prune all around the pot. I do half of it one year and allow the side that was root pruned to get some growing. On the following year, I prune the other side of the pot. Your picture shows a lot of work. Recently I gave a large Latarrula tree away that was grown in a half whisky barrel. It was easy digging out the tree. Took only 15 minutes and the whole barrel with tree could be moved. This was a result of what I described above. The Latarrula was 8 yrs old and produces more figs than we can eat. It took 4 guys to move and load this gift into their truck. This well branched Latarrula tree was about 8 to 9 ft tall. The same happened to my gift of Longue d'Aout -- easy to root & moved tree away from my yard. Please note -- IF MY POT BASE IS 2FT IN DIAMETER, I PLACED CRUSHED GRAVEL 2FT IN DIAMETER & PACKED THEM IN WELL UP TO A DEPTH APPROX. 5 INCHES. DOING SO WOULD MOSTLY FORCED THE ROOTS NOT TO GROW UNDERNEATH THE POT. I Generally do not keep large trees. I give them away as I will have replacement trees ready by then. I think this only applies if one is not doing it commercially selling ripe figs. I grow figs mainly for my own consumption and hundreds of fig per variant is not what I want. I opt for diversity to achieve my goal in volume.
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Thanks for taking time to provide that valuable insight. My own goals for growing fig trees are mixed. Yes, I want to have many varieties to try for my own consumption. I haven't had a chance to have many fresh figs yet, but I can say I'm definitely hooked! Secondly, I want to see what varieties do well here once the weather turns bad (hot with a lot of rain vs merely hot and humid). Try as many varieties as I can and see what produces and what doesn't. Third is to provide a nursery service for others who want to try growing their own figs locally. Farmers here are desperate to diversify into new crops. I think figs is a viable option for those around here as we are only 2 hours by truck (using only major thoroughfares) from the biggest wholesale fresh vegetable and fruit market in the country. Only lastly is it to sell fruit myself, but that, however, is my wife's goal, and she has her own fig plants for that purpose. In any event, I plan to top all branches at about 6 feet, I don't plan to stand on a ladder to harvest ;)
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All good wishes to your endeavour.
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Thank you for your picture,nice job!
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