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And what are the white-ish blobs on the sides of the twigs? These sticks are wrapped in parafilm in SIP cups. 
If my cutting IS upside down, what should I do? Let it continuue to leaf out as is OR take it out of the potting mix SIP, unwrap the parafilm and????
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White stuff is beginings of roots and yes the cutting is upside down. I advice you reverse it.
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Thanks speedmaster. If I reverse it and stick this end into the potting mix, There goes the green bud, right? :(
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Thanks speedmaster. If I reverse it and stick this end into the potting mix, There goes the green bud, right? :(

No it will grow out if you do not break it.

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And what are the white-ish blobs on the sides of the twigs? These sticks are wrapped in parafilm in SIP cups. 
If my cutting IS upside down, what should I do? Let it continuue to leaf out as is OR take it out of the potting mix SIP, unwrap the parafilm and????
Thanks!

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A forum member taught me to look at the nodes.
If the top of the node looks like smile it is right side up. IF IT LOOKS LIKE A FROWN ITS UPSIDE DOWN. TRY LOOKING AT A BRANCH THAT IS ON A TREE AND YOU WILL SEE. THIS IS WHAT I DID TO LEARN. I PLANTED A GOOD MANY UPSIDE DOWN. LOL.

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So I pulled it out of the potting mix, tried to clean it off in order to wrap in parafilm and I used a brush whose bristles were too hard. :( I guess the end that's been sitting in the soil is naturally more tender, the "bark" / skin ripped. I hope its still okay OR should I amputate / cut-off that area?

I guess my real question is how deep should the "root" end of a twig be planted? Is there such a thing as too shallow? As you can see from the pic, the bud is only 1-inch from the end so now that I've inverted it correctly, it only has 1-inch into the potting mix.

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When I did that earlier this season, I used a wider pot and laid the cutting sideways about a half inch deep with the bud pointing up - it already had a number of roots coming out of what should have been the top part and a half inch shoot coming down at an angle from where your bud sits - it is growing fine in the pot. 
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Exactly what Ed said.
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Would you show us where the bark was scrapped off?  If it came off easily that's a sign the part of the cutting in the soil was starting to rot which would mean the soil is too wet.  You want to have a lot of air spaces in the rooting medium so the cutting doesn't rot.  That's why many people use mostly perlite or coco coir that's been squeezed out and re-fluffed.  You get plenty of moisture with good air circulation.
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Recently I have one cutting has roots at the top end only. So I cut it (one node) again and buried it very shallow in the top soil. 
after 2 weeks, the roots grew a lot. two buds  are sprouting.



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If this too far OT I'll be ok with your deleting it.

I had a cutting form roots at every node while laying down in spag moss. If I were to have planted horizontally eventually it would have sent up sprouts at some or all of the nodes, right.

At some point the nodes could be divided to make individual plants.

So is this the reason for laying the upside down rooted cuttings horizontally?

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A forum member taught me to look at the nodes. If the top of the node looks like smile it is right side up. IF IT LOOKS LIKE A FROWN ITS UPSIDE DOWN. TRY LOOKING AT A BRANCH THAT IS ON A TREE AND YOU WILL SEE. THIS IS WHAT I DID TO LEARN. I PLANTED A GOOD MANY UPSIDE DOWN. LOL.

Thanx figpig_66 for the tip, sometime its a headache for me to guess which is up and bottom of a cuttings.

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Don't know but take some cuttings now before it's too late.
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Here is a picture of the bruise, rcantor. :(
I thought about adding perlite to my potting mix but for-goed it in my lack of time.
These are in 18oz cups created as SIP (Sub-irrigated Containers.) They might run a little wetter but a lot of people seemed to have good results with them even with a peat base I believe. (At least that's what I read on here.) The mix is straight out of the bag Espoma Potting Mix.

My question is now, should i just cut/amputate the stick to get rid of the bruised end? I'm a little worried that the bruise will take down the whole stick... 

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I would take the plastic off and check the bark.  If it comes off easily and there's no green then it's dead.  I would cut off the dead stuff so the infection doesn't spread.  That comes from too much water and not enough air getting to the cutting.
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There is definitley a green layer right under the brown bark that got scraped to the side when I used too rough of a bristle brush. I don't think its dead.... but it has this "wound" now... Also when do I need to worry about providing enough light? These sprouted in the dark so... ?
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