Figs with unmistakable profiles on a healthy tree

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lampo

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Posted 1432825839	Reply with quote #1

3 1/2 year old - 4' young and immaculate tree with fruit of unmistakable profiles. Ongoing very dry weather will make them to ripen early and be sweeter Francisco Portugal

ChrisK

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Posted 1432826727	Reply with quote #2

Exelent pics. Thanks very much for sharing Francisco. __________________ ChrisK Atl GA Zone 7b-8a

deerhunter16b

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Posted 1432834395	Reply with quote #3

Very nice __________________ john Zone 7a

fignutty

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Posted 1432834877	Reply with quote #4

Francisco: Stunning looking figs for sure. I assume they are "fat" because of pollination. What is the variety? And if I got wasps going in my greenhouse what would be the varieties I should try to find? Thank you for all your wonderful photos and helpful advice!! __________________ Steve in Alpine TX 7b/8a Wish list: Sangue Dolce, Siblawi, Victoria, Emalyn's Purple, Colonel Littman's Black Cross

Jerry_M

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Posted 1432835243	Reply with quote #5

Nice figs! __________________ Jerry Canyon Lake, TX 8b Wanted: Cajun Gold, Louisiana Honey, Schar Israel-114 grams

lampo

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Posted 1432839295	Reply with quote #6

Thank you all for commenting Steve, these are Violeta figs, IMO the geographically distant brothers of Preto, Black Madeira,... but believed to be genetically very similar or even the same cultivar. I have to say that I do not think these have been pollinated.. the reason being that this season, Profichis are not yet ripe.. Think they still need a week or two to effectively send out their wasp squadrons. Last season by this day I had hundreds of pollen bearing wasps exiting the potted Caprifigs and pollinating receptive figs of all sorts at will. To your question on the recommendation for experimenting 'in house' pollination you need to be sure that the figs (Common Smyrna San Pedro) are sufficiently developed and receptive to accept pollination by the time wasps exit the ripe Profichis. It comes to my mind that you may try the hybrid DFIC0023, Zidi, Bournabat, Marabout/(Smyrna), Calimyrna, Desert King (2nd crop) Dauphine (2nd crop) Ice Crystal, ,... as well as many Common varieties, like Brown Turkey,Blk Mission, Kadota etc. Suggest you to discuss this with Harvey, Igor, Sue,.. may be others in Cal. as there is already some years of accumulated experience with pollination in that State involving a great number of varieties. Francisco Portugal

fignutty

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Posted 1432843399	Reply with quote #7

Francisco: Thank you so much!! I'll look for those varieties and consult as you suggest. My greenhouse climate is similar to inland areas of CA. __________________ Steve in Alpine TX 7b/8a Wish list: Sangue Dolce, Siblawi, Victoria, Emalyn's Purple, Colonel Littman's Black Cross

Feigenbaum

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Posted 1432846763	Reply with quote #8

Looking great Francisco!!! __________________ Hi from Germany! (Zone 7b) Christian

Herman2

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Posted 1432851756	Reply with quote #9

Indeed They have the exact shape of Madeira Black and Preto,even tho they are breba. It can be seen that ,very different than other cultivars,this one has Breba and main crop ,that are very similar in shape. I see,that this year started very promising for you Francisco,and is going to be a bountiful harvest. Happy gardening

jdsfrance

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Posted 1432886725	Reply with quote #10

Hi lampo, Because you're frost-less that tree is not growing in a frost induced pattern. For me those figs are main crops, but I could be mistaken of course. I don't have neither violetta nor BM nor Preto ... Since they require a long season, they would probably be useless at my location on a normally cold year. The reason for that is: Since breba grow on last years wood, there should be a stem above the figs. But there is no wood; The terminal bud is hidden in between the figs . That is a typical situation for maincrop figs . Here is a typical display of brebas: (a little pic Just because I like pics :) and hope others do. The tree is an unknown that grows too big for me nevertheless ) Thanks for sharing. __________________ ------------------------ Climate from -25°C to + 35°C Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here

lampo

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Posted 1432907161	Reply with quote #11

Thank you all for your comments and kind words Think I should have said it when presenting those pictures as they may induce you in error. Given the timing, and for growers on upper latitudes, one may be inclined to believe that this small cluster of fruit, are brebas.... but they are not! These are main crop Violeta packed under the apical bud. Violeta does have a tendency to sport this behavior.. they may look like these pics show. when getting ripe. The plant structure, the rather short inter-nodal distances, a very dry climate and the absence of pruning on these early years... may create that illusion. Thank you four your interest Francisco Portugal

pako

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Posted 1432911334 · Edited	Reply with quote #12

Francisco, great pictures! Could you please compare the ripening time of Violeta vs Col de Dame ? God bless you! __________________ Bulgaria (EU),zone 7b

cis4elk

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Posted 1432919077	Reply with quote #13

Saliva..on. __________________ Calvin Littleton,CO z5/6 Wants List: For everyone to clean-up after themselves and co-exist peacefully. Let's think more about the future of our planet and less about ourselves. :)

lampo

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Posted 1432942330	Reply with quote #14

Good question Pako... Have no Col de Dame for comparison but what I may say is that according to what I am told, CdD matures later, by mid September Violeta shows up earlier.. In their best years it ripens by the 3rd week of July a bit later than Pastilière or Preto Temporão, and goes on through Oct or even November in dry autumns. Well looked after and with the correct treatment this cultivar shows a good percentage of large fruit well in excess of 60/70 gr. Francisco Portugal

johnnyq627

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Posted 1432984135	Reply with quote #15

Fransisco you can't tease us with these pictures and not show us one cut open! :) __________________ Nick- Youtube: PA Figs \| eBay: tdepoala Zone 6B/7A - Douglassville, PA Wish list - Galicia Negra, Paritjal Rimada, Black Ischia UCD

lampo

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Posted 1433013388	Reply with quote #16

Thank you Nick I see you like juicy black figs with red insides ... Here is the introductory picture of Violeta some 3 years ago by the time I joined this forum Hope it satisfies your curiosity On certain seasons, another black cultivar, distinct from Violeta -(Sofeno Preto)- gives me excellent fruit, as this pair .. Both delicious figs, needing a lot of sun and why not to mention - a tiny wasp here and there! cheers Francisco Portugal

johnnyq627

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Posted 1433019665	Reply with quote #17

Thank you Fransisco! I could enjoy seeing pictures of figs like that all day long! __________________ Nick- Youtube: PA Figs \| eBay: tdepoala Zone 6B/7A - Douglassville, PA Wish list - Galicia Negra, Paritjal Rimada, Black Ischia UCD

Jerry_M

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Posted 1439996843	Reply with quote #18

Excellent thread. Thanks __________________ Jerry Canyon Lake, TX 8b Wanted: Cajun Gold, Louisiana Honey, Schar Israel-114 grams

lampo

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Posted 1439997953	Reply with quote #19

A few more pictures of Violeta - aka Black Madeira or Preto - in their native grounds. Francisco Portugal

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