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I am presenting you this newer selection of mine that came as an misnamed Texas Everbearing,bought by one of my gardener friends.
He knew it is not matching the description of what is suppose to be Texas everbearing,and he told me so.
I studied this plant for 4 years now in ground in my fig trial row,and i decided,to keep,it and give it a name that describe the fruits,as accurate as possible.
This is not a hybrid,but one of the over 400 unknown edible Ficus Carica cultivars.
I can say that is one of the excellent ones,after the fig trial here,and does not deserve to go back in anonimity.
My granddoughter and I tasted the fruits again,this morning,and we think it have excellent flavor and sugar on a fruit with a close eye that do not sour or split.
My Granddoughter specifically showed me when I asked her how good it is:
She opened her arms all the way she could,and said!!!this much good!!!.
When I asked about the Flavor she answered:
It taste like:
Peanut Butter+
Apple+
Grape Jelly.
And I can tell you this 4 yr girl is as sharp as a child can be and,much more for her age.
This cultivar has ornamental leaves,and is very cold hardy,it spent the winter outside without protection.

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Very nice looking fig indeed, all pluses cold hardy,sweet, closed eye an ideal fig for the north east.


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Has maybe some similarities to Dorree, but the resistance to souring  - Interesting!
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This tree makes main crop only,and Doree is a Breba fig.
I should corect one missinformation,i placed by Mistake,and Nelson noticed it and he take it as fact.
Long Brown Honey,has tight eye,and do not sour and split,but not totally closed eye,(sorry my error)
It never made any Breba and it produced,main crop, fruits the first year I rooted the cuttings.
I can't say it doesn't make any Breba,because it was in ground from the start,and ,so most if not all breba fruit buds die here,if plant is inground.

Corection:I reaserhed the Doree cultivar,and is thought to have 2 crops,not only breba,but it is also known to be red inside,and this is clear Honey(see pix),also found one Doree pix from Europe with almost ripe fruit and it show a round fruit and not long like "Long brown Honey"

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Hi Herman.  This sounds like a real winner!

Great find.

And I am most impressed by your granddaughter's assessment.

Children so young always say exactly what they think, and a fig that is so pleasing to children is a real winner.

I am planting lots of figs in our orchard, but also giving a lot away to friends, family, and neighbors, because children really do love figs, and these are far more healthy than the candy, etc., they might otherwise be eating.

When the plant has reached sufficient size, hope you might be willing to offer a few cuttings sometime of this great new find. 

Best wishes.

John

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Forget the Dorree.
Maybe I was just envious;)
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I have no problem,if someone recognize it for sure and name the name.
It looks like in the pix,have linear leaves, but very short Tumbs,and shorter lobes too.
It is totally amber inside without any red,whatsoever.
On The outside is like a light rust color(see pix).
It has a small eye,without any souring problems,and it does not Split easily.
It is very long i would say twice long, as wide,on main crop figs.
I had fruits every year for last 3 years and every time they look the same as this year,a long fig about 70 grams,in weight.
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Could you post better pics?
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I have no Ideea what my grandoghter found to be Tasting like peanut butter.
The seeds on it are empty inside it is just a shell,not being polinated,they are empty inside .
I will post more pixes in the future,as for better pixes,I am not going to buy a new camera soon,so I can't promise that.
5 Megapixel is enough for me.

Here is some new pixels taken today
Interior color changed,to light pink on these 2 new fruits:
Long Brown Honey is second left to right

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Our children ages 11, 9, and 7 have a much better sense of taste than I do, and I am always very interested in what they think of the various varieties of figs.

In general children have much more sensitive taste and smell than adults (which is why they generally don't like many of the strong flavors adults prefer), but they also have much more limited tasting experiences and vocabularies.

So it sounds like your granddaughter tasted an outstanding, full and complex flavor, much more than just sweet, reminding her of some of her favorite flavors, and that is the way she described it.

She is obviously a very bright child and quite precocious for her age, as most 4 year olds would just say "good!"

The bottom line though, is that this is a really good tasting fig!  ;-)

A definate keeper Herman.

Best wishes.

John

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The figs look like hunt, but the leaves don't really look the same.
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I was inclined to take the advice of a person who Email me privatelly sugesting this fig is a Brunswick.
Today I sampled it again,and I say ,no way is not a Brunswic,wich I had and discarded for souring easely.
Brunswick was never this color inside nor was it so juicy and tasty,and also not souring.
Brunswick will sour in dry weather too if one waited for thrm to get totally ripe,to look juicy like the present pix.
So I am convinced:It is not Brunswick,and I am dropping the ideea to get rid of it too!!!

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How did Long Brown Honey do this year with so much rain? Are cuttings going on ebay this fall?

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I gave the plant to someone in Virginia,because ,I found out it is getting ripe too slow,and half of the fruits did not get ripe till winter in 2010.
It is nothing wrong with the cultivar,it is my climate ,not enough long Summer to get them ripe.
Virginia will be much better for it.

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Thank you, and last year was a hot one so I am sure they would not have done well for me here either.

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Herman was very kind to share a start of this great cultivar with us.

My children read that Herman's grandaughter loved this fig, so they just had to have this one for their orchard also.

It is growing very strongly in our orchard, with a good setting of fruit.

They have not ripened yet, as this is the plant's first season in ground, and that tends to delay the setting of fruit, but it will not be long before they start to ripen.

I can confirm that this cultivar is a strong grower, very healthy, no signs of FMV, and a beautiful ornamental plant.

As to the flavor, if Herman's grandaughter loves this fig, it is a real winner for certain.  We have three children, they are very discerning about which figs they like and which ones they don't, and the children can easily pick the best flavored figs from the lessor figs.  Children know what tastes good.

Special thanks to Herman for sharing a start of this with us.  We will be certain that this cultivar is kept alive for future children.  It may do better in the South though.

Best wishes to all.

John
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Herman,
Is it possible that LBH does not ripen all its fruit b/c it is of the Everbearing kind (i.e., the fruit keep coming and coming till frost)?



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Herman,   I agree with you in that this is not a Brunswick. I too posted a fig which looks very much like yours. My fig also does not split/sour and taste is excellent. Tree has been in the family for 20+ years, so I can say that confidently. Identification can be very difficult so we must not be quick to throw the brunswick label.You can reference my post "brunswick or not' to see my fruit. Good Luck  and enjoy your tree.    Angelo  Zone 7 NY

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Yes it is ever bearing in a way.
The problem is that every fruit here ,takes too long to ripe and so one rain,2 rain period come and go and the one fruit is still no ripe at the end it is full of water and mediocre tasting.
It needs to get ripe faster,in order to catch a period of dry sunny days to be best.

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I got a couple of these cuttings from Jon last year but lost them both. I would like to try some more if Jon has them available but I can't remember what he has them listed as. Gorgi, I think that you posted info that pointed me to this post last year. Anyone remember? Thanks.


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Susan,

These two are the same and both are LBH.

 

223               BT/TE#1

170               BT/TE#2

http://figs4fun.com/Varieties.html


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Anyone know how this does in pots?  I'd be happy to root some cuttings and test it  :)


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All figs can be grown in pots.

LBH  tend to be of the vigorous upright kind...


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Thanks, Gorgi. I put them both on my order/wish list from Jon. If I get some this year they will be grown in pots because I have pretty much the same weather as Herman. But they will be fun to try...


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Thanks, Gorgi. I put them both on my order/wish list from Jon. If I get some this year they will be grown in pots because I have pretty much the same weather as Herman. But they will be fun to try...


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Does anyone know what the BT/TE designation stands for?


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VS, that fig doesn't look like Brunswick to me. Brunswick figs are shorter and wider/fatter. Looks like a good cultivar! Good luck with it.

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Sara types -

Does anyone know what the BT/TE designation stands for?

Hmm i was thinking something that would surely get me banned !

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I think that the BT stands for Brown Turkey and the TE stands for Texas Everbearing. I read that somewhere but don't remember where. Maybe Jon's varities pages.


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Martin, Martin, Martin.  LOL

Thanks Susan.  I was thinking BrownTurkey and went brain blank on the TE. Regardless, I think it will be a great plant.  You'll have to tell me how it does for you in Brown Co, since you are not too far from me.

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Here is an old thread that I've been reading over and over as the years go by.  I get excited about "unknowns" like these!  Kinda like, Tony's Brown Italian!  

Two years ago, I was able to land some LBH cuttings.  They struck.  Now I have 2 small trees.  They did fruit last year but I did not monitor or record its data.  This year I will report more information on this fig.  I put my 2 trees to the test and left them out in superoot pots for 2 years.  Well, this winter I brought them inside and repotted them in SWPs.  This fig has all the good info about it....tight eye, no split when rain, needs long season.  All these are perfect for my climate.  Moreover, I will be growing it inside my new greenhouse this year and feeding it alot of liquid fertilizer starting this weekend.

...BOLO.....more to come


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An other unique characteristic, is the beautiful long-5-finger-like leaves like a Brunswick.
Trust me, this is no (water-spoiling) Brunswick - I had 3 variants of Bs. for comparison.

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Hey Bill...aka Saxonfig, is it possible that Haikel Lebanese is the same as Long Brown Honey? 

I have 2 beautiful Long Brown Honey trees that I rooted from cuttings a few years back.  The leaf pattern on this tree is truly amazing!  No FMV what so ever!  I will definitely winterize these trees indoors this year.

I also have Haikel.  Hmmm, both LBH and Haikel look similar.  I wonder if they are the same.  If so, I am a happy camper.  I will post pic from both trees later tonight.  Does anyone else have Long Brown Honey and Haikel?

I thank Gorgi, Saxonfig, and Herman2 for posting information about these figs!!!  Thank you so much guys!








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All of my Texas Everbearing looks like yours and every other one sold by nurseries around East Texas.  I have tried to tell people it is not a Brown Turkey and it is not a Brunswick.  I think it would be closer to a Brunswick mutant/variant.
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