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A bunch of figs are ripening now, I will post pics of them as they ripen. Most of these are 1st year fig trees, so they might not be as good as they will be in the future.  

LSU Gold 
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MBVS and Conadria 
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Conadria fig  
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  MBVS 
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Fantastic pictures.  Enjoy the harvests!
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wow! delicious!
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Why does your lsu gold fig look so much better then mine. Congrats on that. Must be in that Hawaii air. Grate pics.
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Why does your lsu gold fig look so much better then mine. Congrats on that. Must be in that Hawaii air. Grate pics.


It is yours, I bought cuttings of them from you on June 10th last year. ;)

Thanks everyone.


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Wow. Thats crazy. Yours look awsome.
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Must be awesome to enjoy such early figs and tropical fruits too. What tropical fruits ripen around this time for you?
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@binbin9:  Not to much tropical atm, right now, strawberries, black berries, raspberries and apples.  

Next up is Figo Preto.  Unfortunately this one is not completely ripe and had a crack near the eye that let the syrup/honey pour out into a pool on the ground. :(  I weighed it, but its a little lighter than it should have been, if only the crack did not let out the honey.. Oh well, it was still very good. :)  Since its closer to the size of a tennis ball than a quarter, thought I would use one for scale. :P 

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That's off the hook,a mutant Preto on the loose.Do the others still hanging look like they're going to size
up that large?

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These pretos must be on steroids. Nice pictures.
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wow...pots? what size?
please post your soil, watering routine, and fertilizer....

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@tyro: I don't think the rest will be this size, they look like they will be bigger...

I am growing it in a 20 gal pot. Soil mix is 1/1/1 promix bx, coco coir and #4 perlite. Water none for the last 10 days. I wanted to concentrate the sugars. Usually 1 gallon a day.

Fertilizer, dolomite lime, azomite 1 half teaspoon each every 2 weeks.
Also nitrogen and phosphorous, but no potassium. I think it was 10-0-20. Same half teaspoon every 2 weeks.

I will let your preto trees fruit and do a side by side comparison of the fruits. Under as close to identical growing conditions as I can. If they are much smaller than these, I will look into whether it could be a sport mutation, or possibly a mislabeled cutting.

The fruit size on this tree so far is 80-99 grams. I have 40 more figs left on the tree. The tree was started as a 2 node cutting received on 7/4/15 it rooted in September 2015.


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Thank you for posting. I never thought that these preto figs could get this large. Are these getting rain water on top of your one gallon per day?
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This fig is under a covered area of my greenhouse. Since the fruits started ripening the tree stopped putting on new growth. I'm trying to be very carful not to over water. It only needs a small amount of water to ripen the figs. I will start watering again, just 1 cup per day, to keep the leaves from drooping.
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You are so lucky to have ripe figs already. 
Here the season won't start until 4-6 weeks for my potted figs and September for In ground.

Your figs look so good and great sizes!   How did they taste?

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Figo Preto taste like concentrated strawberry jam, with tropical fruit notes.  I tasted soft, chewy, semi-dried banana and creamy, smooth mango flavors.  Here are a few pictures of ones that I got after restricting all water for the last 2 weeks.  Plus my 1st Grise Olivette fig.

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Looks meaty and yummy with the deep red pulp and honey. Do they still maintain their large size?
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A few more varieties ripening. 

Sal's/EL:   Sweet berry fig, sweeter than MBVS, but also less sharp/tart berry flavor. 
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LSU Golden Celeste:  A unexpectedly giant fig, all twenty have been 80+ grams.  Sweet fig, drips honey when ripe.  
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My largest LSU gold, most were between 60-80 grams. 
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LSU Hollier: The best tasting fig after Figo Preto.  Very ugly green fig, red interior, gap in center filled with syrup. Has lots of brown sugar spots and honey dripping out of the eye, as well as any skin cracks.  Strong berry flavor with lots of complexity. 
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Possibly a Hollier breba
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Wuhan: A slow growing heavy producing fig tree.  Interesting serrated leaves, bright yellow interior, purple exterior, seedless figs.  Produces large main crop and breba crop.  Brebas are larger and contain seeds.  Both tasted the same otherwise.  Mildly sweet, no complexity.  Would only recommend for the collectors, not the connoisseurs.

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Wow nice pics, thanks for sharing I hope that you enjoyed your harvest dinner!
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Some good looking figs there Sid, thanks for sharing.
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LSU Hollier rating after Figo Preto is a surprise, but if it tastes like that ugliness is a small thing. Thanks for the update.
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Nice photo's Sid.Looks like the fruit is coming in much larger there as opposed to the mainland.
Most of my Preto's are coming in at 37-45 grams.

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@figinfever:  I was surprised as well, in a good way.  I think there are 2 varieties sold as LSU Hollier,  one looks just like Italian Honey.

https://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/olympus-digital-camera-46/

https://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/product/hollier-fig/

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1285415307&postcount=7&forum=0

Then the other one from the Fig4Fun database.  The one I have, long neck, red interior.  

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A picture of LSU gold (left), two "Ugly" Holliers (center), LSU golden Celeste (Right). 

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@tyro:  I can't get any anywhere near that small, even restricting water.  Here is a picture of the two smallest so far, 61 and 63 grams.  They are on my hand for scale, i'm 6'3, so above average hand size.  

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Interior Shot of a Preto, 80 grams. 

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Simply Gorgeous!!!!!!  Well done, figgysid1, well done! 
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I don't think the large figs are mutations. Figs are big across cultivars. It is likely the growing condition and your care of them that makes them fruit that size. If the flavor remains high, I for one would love to have the problem of giant figs. : ) Congratulations. 
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Figsy do you employ fig wasps to achieve that level of size and jamminess? If not, it would be crazy to see what those figs would look like if they were pollinated
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Thanks

No fig wasps here, or ripe capri figs yet. I have a 9ft tall persistent capri fig tree that I hope will produce figs soon. I will try hand pollenating some of them and see what difference it makes.

I think the size and quality of the fruits is due to the very mild climate here. It's never to hot or to cold. To much heat and they ripen to fast and produce lower quality fruit. To much cold during ripening reduces the sweetness of the figs. Kind of a goldilocks climate, except for the rain, which is not much factor since the trees are covered.

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I picked a bunch of Preto figs today, I know enough with the Preto figs!  I got 12 to ripen in the last 3 days.  These are the last ones on my tree, 52 figs ripened on this one tree in 11 months since the cutting rooted.  

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They look huge and delicious. Congrats on the early productivity.
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Figgysid I would love to munch one of those ...
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I picked a bunch of Preto figs today, I know enough with the Preto figs!  I got 12 to ripen in the last 3 days.  These are the last ones on my tree, 52 figs ripened on this one tree in 11 months since the cutting rooted.  

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All your varieties look better grown by you then by me. You sure do a great job. Very nice.

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LSU pruple:  Small/medium size purple fig, amber pulp, tight eye, rain resistant.  Good flavor, sweet, thin skin, no seed crunch.  Better than I was expecting,  since many have said they were disappointing tasting the first few years.   

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Some unusual finds this week.  I found a branch on one of my Violet De Bordeaux fig trees was variegated.  Looks like five variegated leaves so far.  

 This morning I seen something unusual, a drop of purple syrup coming out of one of my Grise Olivette figs..  When I opened it I was surprised by the color of the interior...

 The other unusual thing I noticed, is the seeds looked much darker, bigger, rounder and more developed in comparison to regular Grise Olivette seeds.  Normally they are very small and undeveloped in a normal Grise Olivette fig (last picture).  Your guess is as good as mine.....  

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I'm suffering from acute fig envy here!  Beautiful fruit Sid.

That Grise Olivette fig has the colors of my alma mater.  Geaux tigers!

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  This morning I seen something unusual, a drop of purple syrup coming out of one of my Grise Olivette figs..  When I opened it I was surprised by the color of the interior...

 The other unusual thing I noticed, is the seeds looked much darker, bigger, rounder and more developed in comparison to regular Grise Olivette seeds.  Normally they are very small and undeveloped in a normal Grise Olivette fig (last picture).  Your guess is as good as mine.....  

What a weird color! How did it taste? 

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I didn't taste it, just in case it was radioactive.. I think it was glowing...

I also wanted to save the seeds, which sank in water. I cut one in half and it had white embryonic tissue, like a viable seed would, so I'll see if they are.

My best guess right now is fig X purple sweet potato hybrid..

I recently propagated 50 additional Grise Olivette fig trees. So I will have many more opportunities to taste one, if they turn purple again..

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 Is the Grise olivette color real or photoshopped?

Never seen anything like it, can be a bud mutation (sport) that caused this color.
If so, it might be a really awesome new cultivar!
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 Is the Grise olivette color real or photoshopped?

Never seen anything like it, can be a bud mutation (sport) that caused this color.
If so, it might be a really awesome new cultivar!


That is the real color. I read that the color is most accurate in sunlight, so I took the picture outside.

I know what branch it fruited on. I will keep an eye out for more like this one on that branch. It would be great if it was a sport mutation. Can only wait and see.

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The anthocyanins in figs might be acting as a ph indicator? Does not explain why the seeds sink though, weird and exciting stuff!
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The background of pics in post #32 has a fair amount of purple granules. If those colored sands were in the pot, could the roots absorb it and color the fig interior? Could be wasp doing work for the swelling, big size and sunken seed? Just throwing out very remote possibilities if it's not a mutation.

Either way, weird is interesting... at least to me. : )

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The anthocyanins in figs might be acting as a ph indicator? Does not explain why the seeds sink though, weird and exciting stuff!


I just looked that up. That may be it. I have been trying to get my pH between 6.5 and 7. Which is the same pH level that is supposed to cause certain anthocyanins to turn purple. It's even the same shade of purple. Maybe I can repeat it by matching the pH.

That should also mean If I lower the pH to 5-5.5, I should get more red pigmentation. I never thought pH could have that much effect on the color!

On the difference in the seeds. Maybe the pH that causes purple pigmentation also causes apomixis.. Hmm this is getting interesting...

Thanks Brent!

@figinfever: The figs are in pots, the colored sand if from the gravel in my driveway, it's green olivine sand I sifted out of the gravel. But maybe certain minerals in the soil could change the pigmentation as well.

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That's cool and super random!
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Wow, I've never seen color like that in a fig. Looking forward to updates.
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What extraordinary colouring!  If it continues, it would be interesting to see if a cutting from that branch is able to produce the same results.     
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Two more ripened today.  Peter's Honey and Napolitana Negra.  

Napolitana Negra:  A large black fig with strawberry light red interior.  Very prolific, fig size 70-100 grams, closed eye.  Sweet, refreshing mild berry with some melon flavors.  

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Peter's Honey:  Medium size, very sweet honey fig.  Open eye but sealed with a drop of Honey.  It has rained for two weeks straight. Very impressed it formed a drop of honey and flavor had no watering down at all.  My favorite honey fig.  

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Thanks for sharing!
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Flander:  Green Fig with Purple strips.  Large 60-100 grams, sweet sugar flavor, refreshing, syrupy fig, thin skin and tight eye. Only fig that has never split in the rain, out of around 1,000 Flanders figs that ripened this last year.  Five trees are in ground.

 This year so far has had the most rainfall in 30 years and were already the rainiest neighborhood in America in a normal year... :p  So big thumbs up for rain resistance.  











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How did the Napolitana Negra taste? I've read a bit about them this year! Thanks for the rain update on Flanders. A good test is 1000 so that's veryerry good result!
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They taste very similar to black mission, but are larger and more productive. There are a few different varieties called Napolitana Negra. I got my cuttings from Marius.

I will only have two more varieties ripen in 2016. Raspberry Latte and Violet De Bordeaux.

I just noticed my seed grown fig trees that sprouted between January and April 2016 are starting to form figs.

I read that seedlings can take as long as 7-10+ years to form figs... My seedlings are between 6-9 months old. So they appear to be able to fruit just as fast from seed as from cuttings.

2017 may be much more interesting. I may get to try 100's of new seedling variety figs! Hopefully some will be good common figs and I can name them. :)

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How is your napolitana negra with regards to splitting?  Exciting news on seedlings, someday in the far future I am going to grow some of the persistent caprifigs and do some breeding projects of my own.  I dont have nearly enough space and time for such an endeavor now though.  You will certainly have a lot of grafting stock!
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Currently growing 50-60 varieties, this season's cuttings dependant. Hopefully I'll get to taste a few more this year...
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