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Also known as Panachee or Tiger, this is a very good fig. It is a later season fig, needs a lot of heat and has some splitting issues, but when it ripens well it is a very, very good berry flavored fig. The new wood will be striped. If the wood is not striped it is not the real deal - or may be from a branch that has reverted back to all green. As a chimera, it is somewhat unstable and branches will revert back to its original all-green form.
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Jon, I bought some from the supermarket last week, I was not expecting much but these were dead ripe. They were the best figs I ever tasted, excellent berry flavor.

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Ate two Panache figs today....Thank You Jesus.....It was good.....best tasting overall..... in my little collection.

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My favorite.  Came home from camping a couple of days at Yosemite and picked a very ripe Panache and enjoyed it.  Made my sore legs not seem so bad, lol.
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Looks like I got to find one in Canada.
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Paully, I got you covered, let me know I can try a layer now and see how it goes, the only problem I have had in the past is splitting, young trees don't want too much fruit as they drop easily as well.
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How is it pronounced?

Pan-uh-chee
Puh-nash
Puh-na-she  (a sound like in cat)
Puh-na-chee  (a sound like in cat)  rhymes with Apache
Pan-a-she
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Jon, I remember climbing that ladder at UCD trying to reach those figs.  They do have a very rich deep flavor all its own.  Those who don't eat green figs are truly missing a treat!  My 3 trees are doing fine and are full of figs.  Last year the late rain spoiled my Panachee figs.  This year, I got mine in SWPs to see if I can control the moisture level during ripening. 
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why not pronounce it like when you use the word ''panache''?
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i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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That looks really yummy.
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It looks like a relation or a sport of Col De Dame Blanc. Does any know it's history?
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Suzie,

Sometimes I see it spelled with a double e on the end.  Panachee.

Got it. Pah-nah-shay.

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Don't know a lot of history, but is has been around a hundred years, maybe a couple hundred years, maybe more.
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I ate another today and also sent one to someone as a surprise along with a plant they purchased.  Hope it makes it okay. :)
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Yes, and it has an oaky finish, nice nose, and lingers on the palette. ;-))
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Looking so delicious and juicy... I wish I can try to taste this one. because never see a perfect fig before. Its really deserve the title... thanks for sharing and making water in our mouth.
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Hi all, 

After I saw Jon's post I checked for stripes on the Panache tree I bought from Raintree Nursery and none of it's striped. Anyone know if it's in fact a Reverse, or is there still a chance of getting true striped figs regardless of lack of wood stripes?

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Panache does not have varigation on the "wood" or foliage - only on the immature fruit.
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I have several trees of Panache and all show variegation of young wood which becomes less apparent as it is older (1 or 2 years old).  Additionally, one of my Panache trees last year had variegated leaves which emerged from a particularly wide stripe and another grower in Canada reported a similar experience.  I tried to sustain this trait but it does not seem to be working out thus far.
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Thanks for the replies! My purported Panache tree is still fairly young (1-2 yrs) so I'd expect to see at least a little variegation on the young wood, but sadly I don't. Hermitian, it was my understanding that I'd see variegation on the wood too, based on Jon's Fig of the Day info. The stripes show on the mature fruit too -- as it's been my pleasure to notice on figs from the farmer's market. 

Harvey, I actually just won some Panache fig cuttings of yours on Ebay today, thanks for putting them up for sale! I also bought a Nero 600m plant from you, so I'll wait to get the finalized invoice with combined shipping. Interesting re. the tree that also had variegated leaves -- do you happen to remember if these Panache cuttings are from that particular tree? Either way, will be glad to get verified Panache cuttings at last. :)

I haven't had any fruit off the first Panache tree from Raintree yet, but it sounds like "Reverse" would be just as tasty even if it's not as attractive. I saw that an earlier poster thought it might be a relation or sport to Col de Dame Blanc. If so, maybe I can cross that off my wish list. Anyone know for sure what a "Reverse" is? It'd be good to be able to pin a definitive label on the tree. 
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I sold 15-25 Panache trees a year from 2007 to 2012. All of them were obtained wholesale from Dave Wilson Nursery. None of these young trees exhibited variegation on leaves or wood, nor did the older tree I had planted in the ground.

I'm surprised to learn of variegation appearing elsewhere. I selected Panache for taste, not appearance and being fruit-crazy I'm mystified by folks seeking variegation for its own sake.
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i think most get panache on looks alone. not many figs with stripes and if one has lots of figs then you might as well add panache. its a real eye catcher.
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Richard, when it comes to the Panache tree the primary motivation here is taste! :) I've tasted Panache figs before from farmers markets and from Whole Foods and thought they were delicious. It's a great tasting fig, the best I've tasted aside from strawberry-type figs I tasted a couple years ago while taking a course in Israel. THOSE figs were what started my fig obsession, and I'm still looking to taste that type of fig again. Hence the slightly crazed collection of trees, though it sounds like I don't have nearly the number of varieties of many on this forum.

Even if they looked like pretty striped parcels, if it tasted bad or mediocre I'd get rid of it. I don't have the time (or in California, the water!) to waste on growing fruit no one will eat. 

Still, the secondary motivation is the expectation of getting cool-looking striped figs. It's a real eye-catcher and I thought it'd be an interesting addition to my small potted "orchard" of more plain-looking green and purple figs. That's why I wanted to know early on if not having striped wood was a surefire diagnostic of fig type, and bought more Panache cuttings in case. If the first tree without variegated young wood turns out to be Panache anyway, that'd be great. There are worse things than having 2 Panache trees. ;)
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One surefire way to obtain one is to purchase a DWN tagged Panache tree from a reputable nursery.

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... Turns out there's a nursery selling Panache fig trees 3' tall for $20 just a few towns away from me. Thanks again, Richard! Feeling pretty sheepish, wish I'd thought to look into local nurseries sourcing Dave Wilson trees earlier. 

Ah, well. I already bought cuttings on eBay so at least I'll get to try out several of the many "how to root cuttings" methods I've found on this forum when they arrive. I'm getting two cuttings so thought I'd try Jon's method of paper towel in ziplock, and improved upright bag. Should both attempts fail, I know I've got Plan B sitting in the nursery 10 miles away. 
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I was gifted a panache last year and interestingly enough, when the leaves came out this spring, it has variegated leaves along with the wood. I was looking at it today & thought I needed to fertilize but the realized it was my panache!
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Jenn, very nice! You should share a picture of it sometime. :)
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I was gifted a panache last year and interestingly enough, when the leaves came out this spring, it has variegated leaves along with the wood. I was looking at it today & thought I needed to fertilize but the realized it was my panache!


Sometimes Jolly Tiger gets distributed or sold as Panache. Did it come with a plant tag from the nursery?
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Does anyone know for sure if a Panache Fig Tree has striped wood? We all know it has striped Figs but I didn't know about the striped wood? Some says it does some say it don't...  There should several members here with a Panache Tree...Any help would be greatly appreciated!   Thanks! : )

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I have two Panaches from different sources. It does have variegated wood, but it mostly shows up the most clearly on the younger wood. Reverted limbs that produce non-chimeric figs don't have the variegation. Reverse figs seem just as tasty though!
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Yes striped wood.
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Ate two Panache figs today....Thank You Jesus.....It was good.....best tasting overall..... in my little collection.

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Oh, gosh...its killing me being in this forum. I mean, I love it but i just drool when i read about everyone eating figs. Are there any in stores anywhere in So Cal? I look but no kuck. Its not usual for us to have any now but just sending a shout out in case.
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Hi Frankallen,
On Panaché, young stems are stripped vertically. When the wood matures, lets say after the winter, the wood reverts to all grey.
Sometimes washing the stem with water help highlight the variegation.
Sometimes in the leaves, when looking closer, you can see some shades/stains of green too .
If you have a cutting, you'll need to grow it for two seasons to be sure.
The stripping does show more when the tree is healthy and growing full strength. The bigger is the inter-node space, the better you'll see the stripping.
Mine is still small, just one year in my garden, and on one stem you can clearly see the nice stripping, and on the other stems with close nodes, it is much more harder to spot.

There are bushes for building hedges that you should cut back each year as only new growth shows a desired color ( like red, or yellow stems when young), and Panaché stripes are in that category . But as Panaché is grown for fruits, you often see Grey trunks and Grey scaffold stems with stripped wood and stripped fruits in the canopy.

So if you have a cutting, it may well be all Grey... So you need to grow it. In the second season, you should see the stripes ... and the stars are the figs . LOL .
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Hi Frankallen,
On Panaché, young stems are stripped vertically. When the wood matures, lets say after the winter, the wood reverts to all grey.
Sometimes washing the stem with water help highlight the variegation.
Sometimes in the leaves, when looking closer, you can see some shades/stains of green too .
If you have a cutting, you'll need to grow it for two seasons to be sure.
The stripping does show more when the tree is healthy and growing full strength. The bigger is the inter-node space, the better you'll see the stripping.
Mine is still small, just one year in my garden, and on one stem you can clearly see the nice stripping, and on the other stems with close nodes, it is much more harder to spot.

There are bushes for building hedges that you should cut back each year as only new growth shows a desired color ( like red, or yellow stems when young), and Panaché stripes are in that category . But as Panaché is grown for fruits, you often see Grey trunks and Grey scaffold stems with stripped wood and stripped fruits in the canopy.

So if you have a cutting, it may well be all Grey... So you need to grow it. In the second season, you should see the stripes ... and the stars are the figs . LOL .



I am so sorry! I didn't read your post back then! You explained it very well! There are a lot of people that think if the branching is not variegated it's not a Panache! Thanks for the education! : )

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I've had mine a couple of years. When I first got it the young wood was striped. Now it is more mottled than striped but definitely different from my other trees. No fruit yet but high hopes.
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I was just researching "Panache Fig" this morning (in the wee hours as I couldn't sleep) and I came across this thread in the archives. And after reading the description and all the reviews, I was thinking about getting one. 
Then I logged on just now and find this threat at the front of the list! Some may think it's just a coincidence. I think it's a sign that I must have one. :D
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I was just researching "Panache Fig" this morning (in the wee hours as I couldn't sleep) and I came across this thread in the archives. And after reading the description and all the reviews, I was thinking about getting one. 
Then I logged on just now and find this threat at the front of the list! Some may think it's just a coincidence. I think it's a sign that I must have one. :D


You might have trouble ripening it in zone 5. It is a long season fig. 

Tastes great here in San Jose, probably my personal favorite, might as well rank what i got:

1. Panache
2. VdB
3. Strawberry Verte
4. Peter's Honey
5. White Genoa

All good figs though, can't go wrong with any fig in CA :)
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You might have trouble ripening it in zone 5. It is a long season fig. 

Tastes great here in San Jose, probably my personal favorite, might as well rank what i got:

1. Panache
2. VdB
3. Strawberry Verte
4. Peter's Honey
5. White Genoa

All good figs though, can't go wrong with any fig in CA :)


Nice list! I can't wait until my plants are a bit older and are producing. Although I'm already having to remove tiny figs from the plants I started as cuttings earlier this year (wanting the nutrition to go toward root development vs fig production right now).

With regards to the Panache, as long as I can keep it around 2 metres, there shouldn't be a problem with the figs ripening as I have a greenhouse (two actually...one cold), as well as a conservatory. And the amount of daylight shouldn't be an issue since, interestingly enough, the actual number of daylight hours received here is the same as Italy when compared on a week-by-week basis even though the outside temperatures may be vastly different.
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That's great that you have a green house, you will have no issues getting ripe figs :) . I think any fig can be kept at 2 meters with pruning. One problem I have is rats taking my figs and the fig beetle. I think a greenhouse would keep all the precious figs for you!
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This 3 year Panache growing in my garden. Ин.Панч.07.29.16..jpg  Ин.Панч.08.11.16..jpg  Ин.Панч.Ð’.-145.08.12.16..jpg  Ин. Панч. Разр.08.12.16..jpg 

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Very nice Vladis!
Do a percentage of your panache figlets drop? 
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Pino,figs do not fall down. This powerful strong plant. In Russia, it is from 1999, introduced from the USA.
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OK Thanks Vladis.
Just wondered if panache has a tendency to drop some of its figlets.
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That's great that you have a green house, you will have no issues getting ripe figs :) . I think any fig can be kept at 2 meters with pruning. One problem I have is rats taking my figs and the fig beetle. I think a greenhouse would keep all the precious figs for you!


Good to know. :)  We occasionally have a rat or two attempt to cross the property, but the Jack Russell usually thwarts their mission. My biggest problems in the greenhouse have been with voles and shrews, but then last fall DH surprised me with a Maine Coon kitten (the first cat I've had in over 20 years as he is allergic) and the first night she was in the greenhouse she dispatched two of the pesky little buggers. Outside of the greenhouse it's squirrels and the occasional bunny, and most recently, a marmet (groundhog). So I've learned to plant and grow far more than I need.
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Those look simply divine, Vladis! 
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Just for the record, when a Panache fig fruit gets a lot of sun sometimes the whole fruit will be yellow.

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I was just researching "Panache Fig" this morning (in the wee hours as I couldn't sleep) and I came across this thread in the archives. And after reading the description and all the reviews, I was thinking about getting one. 
Then I logged on just now and find this threat at the front of the list! Some may think it's just a coincidence. I think it's a sign that I must have one. :D


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And once you buy it your whole destiny will fall in to place.


After looking at some of the pictures of them, I can believe it! LOL
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Just for the record, when a Panache fig fruit gets a lot of sun sometimes the whole fruit will be yellow.



And once you buy it your whole destiny will fall in to place.


Interesting that it changes! And, I guess i want my destiny to fall into place...lol
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Very good looking figs! Are those ones pollinated? I can't wait to have bowls full of those beauties. ;)
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(Zone 12a) Big Island, Hawaii, 2,400 ft elevation, Fern Forest. Avg. July High 77,Avg.Jan.Low 56 Precipitation days 290, annual rainfall 201.80 inches.
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