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viaggiatore971
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If you look closely the painting by G. Gallesio of 1800, you can see a bird that is eating the fig tree.
This means the ultimate goodness of the fig tree! |
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nypd5229
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Not questioning it's taste. Just that sometimes the rarity of a fig doesn't make it better than an easy to find one.
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viaggiatore971
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You're right! If then, the fig has been featured on a painting of 1800 and was believed lost, well I think it's great! I say for a value more than the goodness of the fruit! In Italy there is a proverb that says:
Also the eye wants its part ! |
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nypd5229
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I'm not gonna lie, I was writing the nursery the second you posted its link about a month ago. That's definitely on my list of figs to get, but may be awhile before I can a hold of it. I may have to travel to Italy myself to get cuttings and mail back. Yes the eye does want!
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viaggiatore971
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paully22
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Hello Viaggiatore971 -- what would be an early ripening fig in your area & good tasting. So far in my area, near Vancouver city, Canada -- the earliest ripening brebas are Latarrula( also known as Italian Honey) & Osborne Prolific. The most reliable variety is Desert King - bountiful harvest. I am trialing Ronde de Bordeaux, Dauphine, Grantham's Royal & a few more. Ronde de Bordeaux trials by my friend in Vancouver is promising as he had ripe figs given a much cooler season than normal for this year. |
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viaggiatore971
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I do not know U.S.A. laws and do not know if I can send scions in America. |
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nypd5229
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Don't worry about it. If you don't feel comfortable, that's okay. |
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viaggiatore971
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Here in Europe we have little space for cultivation and one of the tricks used by plant collectors from the fig tree is to plant a hedge. A fig tree every 2 meters. This system of planting of fig trees is also useful to define the various areas of our land; for example: on the right there are apples, to the left pears and of a dividing a hedge of figs. In a short space there may be hundreds of fig trees. The figs are kept up to 2 meters, so that you can reap the fruits without difficulty. For the fig trees that do not usually create bushes you can be planted three fig trees together.
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viaggiatore971
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In Italy, and particularly in my area there is the Blastophaga psensens, which is an insect necessary to pollinate the fruits of fig. [IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/bdwkfc.jpg[/IMG] In my field there are many small fig trees, I do not know yet whether they are plants of Ficus carica or Ficus caprificus... and I am very interested in developing new varieties of fig! |
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AuntieB
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Hi Viaggiatore971, I can imagine the fig trees look beautiful as a hedge. |
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viaggiatore971
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The fruit with the insects ( Blastophaga psenens ) is a Ficus caprificus and is not edible. so, are possible new varieties of fig (Ficus carica) and Fig caprificus (Ficus caprificus)
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FMD
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V, Does the Veneto have named regional figs specific to the area? My years spent in Padova were geared more towards getting an education and chasing women ( not to be redundant) than on figs. Ah, youth! I would bet that the courtyards of the basilicas of San Antonio or San Giustina or the dozens of other places would have some mighty fine tasting figs. Who else knows fruit better than friars and nuns? Anyway, my wife and I are tentatively planning a home exchange trip to Venice next year and I am already planning in my head how to smuggle some of those fat cuttings from the region. Ciao, Francesco |
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viaggiatore971
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yes, the Veneto region has various species of tree of fig that it shares with neigh regions Here you can see various species of fruit trees typical of the Veneto (not all) : Go to: Vegetali fig = fico or here: For exemple the fig Piombinese: [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/2wpm992.jpg[/IMG] |
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nelson20vt
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Viggiatore are you familiar with a fig called Norella from Calabria ? I have looked on the internet and the only thing I found was it listed in this book pg.73 |
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viaggiatore971
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viaggiatore971
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In recent times we have done much research and many experts have been involved in order to find the real fig "Fetifero" bi-color. These things happen in good faith when it comes to rare fruits whose images are found only on the paintings of '800, this tree also has the distinction of having two-colored fruits and abnormal in only a low percentage of fruit and this complicates even further the research. However, it seems that this time we found the real fig "Fetifero". [IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/mjc04.jpg[/IMG] Our mythological fig bi-color "Fetifero"
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nypd5229
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I have heard that as well. That there are several variatians. Some have the void and some don't. But to get the real 'Bone' or ' Embryo' fig is a great feat. This would be a great addition as to keeping it alive in the world knowing several varieties of figs have been lost over the centuries.
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viaggiatore971
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I present a small collection of figs found in a nursery located in the Puglia regionin southern Italy: Organization that deals with the recovery and salvage of old fruit varieties and figs:
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FMD
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What a wonderful job they are doing at "archeologia arborea"! I would definitely love to have Fico Gigante in my collection: http://www.archeologiaarborea.org/doc/gigante.JPG If anyone can understand Italian, there is a nicely produced video available to view: http://www.archeologiaarborea.org/en/about-us-tv-and-press/tv-reportages Thanks for posting sites, Viaggiatore. Frank |
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viaggiatore971
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[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/1znpr93.jpg[/IMG] This fig is "giant fig (fuit) of Zoccolanti" "Zoccolanti" were the monks that produced hooves. "The mother plant was found inside the convent of the friar of GualdoTadino (PG), but the same fig tree was later also found in the convent of the same monastic order in Citta di Castello (PG)!... |
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viaggiatore971
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Here you can read about an collector spanish of figs: |
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viaggiatore971
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Collection of figs present at the Botanical Garden of the University of Salento: |
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viaggiatore971
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[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/14ifj9t.jpg[/IMG] Ficus carica " Roscioletto " This fig is typical of the Abruzzo region
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viaggiatore971
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STUDIES OF ITALIAN FIG GERMPLASM: |
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coolmantoole
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Those are really cool looking figs. So many cool figs! So little garden space! I have always wanted to take a trip to Itally, but now I have an even bigger reason to go, to check out the figs. |
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musillid
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Thank you so much for anwering a persisting question of mine. My folks were from San Pietro Avellana near Castel di Sangro and I have thought it would be fun to have a fig from the region. Can you describe Roscioletto's attributes? Since I am USAg zone 5, I must container grow. |
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mario
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Here is more on this fig |
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musillid
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Thank you Mario. I had forgotten this thread. I don't believe the story of the monks making hooves. It doesn't make sense. taht Zoccolanti is enormous, though. |
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viaggiatore971
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[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/wvzho8.jpg[/IMG] |
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viaggiatore971
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[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/2miav9.jpg[/IMG] |
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viaggiatore971
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[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/2hge7sx.jpg[/IMG] |
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HarveyC
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Thanks for sharing. Are the young branches if Rigato del Salento variegated such as the Panachee? I can't quite tell in the photo. |
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Dieseler
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Viaggiatore the Panache here in America in my yard did produce breba figs near Chicago,Illinois. |
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HarveyC
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Martin, did your breba figs mature? I had several on mine and thought one was going to mature but it dropped off like the others. I thought it may have had breba figs last year but, honestly, didn't pay close enough attention. |
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Dieseler
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No they developed black spots and rotted with the spring rains . |
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viaggiatore971
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[QUOTE=Dieseler]Viaggiatore the Panache here in America in my yard did produce breba figs near Chicago,Illinois. |
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Dieseler
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Viaggiatore thank you for that information of the different color stripes. |
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elin
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Hi |
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viaggiatore971
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I photographed this original print of Gallesio 1800 |
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Dieseler
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Hi Viaggiatore |
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viaggiatore971
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There are many figs that have fruits with morphological alterations, |
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pino
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Viggiatore |
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Aaron4USA
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I was wondering about the taste too... |
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Luigi6809
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Hello Viaggiatore971, |
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pino
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Luigi |
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Luigi6809
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10Cleverley
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Dear.. |
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