Here is the Blue Ischia that was offered on ebay.  It has it's first shiny leaf on it and recovered from a partial stay in the cold greenhouse before I brought it inside.  I'm just wondering if anyone has ID'd it yet?

Funny you should mention this variety again Tom , I just bought one from Hirt's on Amazon. I figured it was worth a try for that price. They sent a healthy albeit small plant . 
How old is yours now? Wonder who else tried one ?

I Planted mine in ground last November(bought it in July) and protected it from frost ,best I could.
It is alive tho the little stem,(just,like yours),Died close to ground but it has 4 buds growing at base now which mean it will start 4 Branches,this Summer.
Looking at your Pix,my opinion,is the leaves,are similar to UCD Ischia Black so there is hope ,no doubt.
I am not implying it is made from wood from UCD,because it is not.
Positivelly is not infected with the FMV,the other have.

I bought mine last year and kept it for part of the winter in the lean-to and then brought it inside the house.  I bounced back in the lean-to environment.  I don't think it looks like Ischia Black yet.  I have Ischia Black from Encanto Farms and UCD.  My understanding though is that it might look different for awhile because it was started from tissue culture.  Is this correct?

Absolutelly,It is known to have leaves in juvenile stage for a longer period of time.
My hope is that one of these will produce at least a couple of ripe fruits to look at,and make a better informed ID.
Even so I see on your tree,the leaves look like My Ischia Black from UCD,when I started them,in the first Summer,so,yes they look like Leaves of juvenile Ischia Black.

Here's my Blue Ischia that I acquired from Hirt's in December 2012...
Hoping for a ripe fig at the end of the season.

I purchased my "Blue Ischia" from Hirt's about two months ago...they sent me two trees in the same pot, so I separated them and placed each one in a 1gal. trade pot...they are small, but healthy and doing just fine...I have them both outside in full sunlight, and they seem to be very happy...as I look at the pictures posted by Tom and Frank of their 2012 trees, the leaves look exactly like mine, except that my leaves are a year smaller...I don't know what 'kind of tree' they are either, but I sent $6 and change to Hirts for 1 tree, and they sent me two trees, so thats about $3 per tree...can't go wrong.

That was a cool thrifty deal Vince .

I bought mine from Hirts back in November 2012. I sure hope someone can ID it soon.

Wow Henry, you've got that thing growing like crazy. Congrats!
I couldn't stand it....I bought one from Hirts today on Amazon.

Henry...what are you feeding that tree, "Wheaties" ??....that is one nice looking tree...good luck.

I'll have to take a closer look at mine because I just thought it was bush type growth with two stems.  Maybe there are two separate plants there.

Per this link, "Blue" and "Black" Ischias are the same:
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/fig.html

Tom (tmc2009)...actually, after separating the tangled bunch of stems and leaves, the two trees each had three main stems, which will eventually become the three main trunks of the trees....also, when I seperated the two trees, I was expecting to find traditional roots at the bottom...what I did find was two gauze sacks(each about the size of a large pecan nut, out of which came the three stems)...I'm still not sure what that was all about...maybe that's how they produce fig trees from tissue culture material??

My Blue Ischia from Hirts arrived today. Here are the pics right out of the box. Looks like I got 2 as well.

Looking good Tami...best of luck.

I also got mine today. Could not stand the thought it may be what they say it is. Also got two in one pot. Tissue culture for sure. One already has about six suckers. Tissue culture figs will give many suckers and need pruning often and early. No FMV as viruses are not normally transmitted through tissure culture. Received several tissue culture plants last summer and they went from 3" to 3' before going dormant. May not be Black or Blue Ischia but cheap and healthy for sure. Just checked Amazon and Hirts Gardens and they are no longer available. Guess there must be others who visit here making orders. They had 14 left when I ordered a few days ago.

They had something like 76 on ebay awhile ago and I also bought mine on Amazon. Ebay is gone as well. I bet we have a ton of Blue Ischia closet buyers!!! Come on guys fess up :)

I took mine apart and potted them into 1 gallons. I didn't see any suckers yet but that's not to say they're not there. Eyes just aren't what they used to be.

Oh, how funny this is!  I wonder if they are wondering why they had a "run" on this particular fig.  LOL!  I'll bet it's not the first time it's happened to them, though.  Has anyone ever found a different fig tree Hirt's was selling that everyone had to have?

If this fig has an open eye, it would not be good for this climate, or other wet places.

Y'all keep us posted on the progress of all your babies because they look real nice and healthy, ok?

Thanks,

noss

Ok, I am a guilty one who ordered from Amazon :)
It arrived today, in a nice condition. 2 plants in a pot, one single stem and one with 3 stems. Nice roots! I repotted them right away.
Not sure how sun friendly they are, it looks they did grow up under some artificial lights.
Please see the photos attached.

Looks very healthy like the rest of our do. I can't wait to see if they are the real thing.

They do look like they've been indoors, I am keeping mine under the oak tree for now and little by little I will move them into the sun.

This is a riot ! I bet they are Noss . I've been so busy , that I hadn't noticed that there's  more than one that small pot also. I'll repot this weekend .
It will be really interesting to see exactly what we all have .

oh GOD why did I just read this!? Now I want one.

[QUOTE=americanfigboy]oh GOD why did I just read this!? Now I want one. [/QUOTE]
LOL!! I was looking for one too!

LOL that's why you have to browse the forum every day....by fall we should all have cuttings.

Yeap! No problem sharing cuttings if they grow nicely.

I will admit that I also purchased the "Blue Ischia" starts. I had purchased other tissue cultured fig plants last year, had good growth (3 feet in 5 months), have not harvested any figs, but did get a few developing figs on the Improved Celeste variety.


Note: these are the largest "tissue cultured" plants that I have received to date. The other plants were extremely small (not even 3 inches tall) with less than six (6) leaves each. Also these plants have been pruned to keep them small.

I explained my experience in an earlier Discussion on Tissue Culture.

I would recommend bare rooting (in a water bath, minimal root damage) and up potting to quart containers (The quart container is to better control moisture at the root zone). The plants that were not bare rooted were very slow in growth (they were root bound).

Thank you for the link Pete. I just read it and am wondering if I should pull them back up and bare root them. Maybe I'll wait a couple of weeks and see if there is any progress. 
I am going to pull up the LSU Purple cultures I got tomorrow for sure. They've been here 2 months and doing nothing. That is probably the problem.

You may have saved them from the burn pile.

I'm just wondering--Does tissue culture equal genetically modified?

Thanks,

noss

Can't swear to it but I believe it is more of a cloning.

It is cloning.  There are techniques to induce genetic variation but that wouldn't be used when you want a clone.

Thanks Tami and Bob,

It didn't seem like it would be GM because that's an actual change, not cloning, but I wasn't sure.

noss

An observation from today.
We had some 94F heat, sun was crazy...
The rooted cuttings outside under a tree were wilting a bit, the Blue Ischia next to them didn't care.
It seems they take heat happier. That is a good news to me if it continues to be like that, we are having 100 and above 1/2 of the summer.

Heat tolerance is fantastic news. They're going to get hot here as well.

I dug up the LSU Purple figs I had gotten as tissue cultures and sure enough, after washing the roots they needed to be up potted. They seem much happier now.

Tami,

What happened that they needed to be up-potted after you washed the roots?  What was on the roots?  Were the roots all compressed?

noss

Noss, The roots were all twined together in a big ball, after washing and detangling they were over a foot long and just needed more space to do what roots do.

i would have ordered one if i had space for it... looks interesting. hope to hear more about it in future and compare it to UCD Ischia Black.

I would order one if everyone on the forum did take them all. LOL 

My procedure for replanting root bound plants, pictured is the Blue Ischia. I have been doing this for years on most garden vegetable plants that were root bound in starter containers.
The procedure is as follows:
1. Wash the roots in a "water bath" using agitation and water currents only (plant roots held underwater by stem, other hand creates water current by pushing water towards roots, like clapping).
2. untangle the larger roots carefully.
3. Root prune all the tips (if possible) to remove apical dominance and increase root branching.
4. Plant in prepared soil (garden or container) and fan out roots.
5. "Water in" to settle soil around roots.
6. Prune plant to balance for damaged roots and or for shape.

Due to the volume and size of the roots on the Ischia starts, I decided to up pot directly to 1 gallon containers.



<edit> for larger figs plants (1 gallon containers), I've used 5 gallon bucket for the wash basin.

Tami,

Good grief, those were long roots.  How big was the container they came in?  The ones I saw here looked like small pots.

noss

Noss,
It was a small pot but they weren't the Blue Ischia. They were the LSU Purple I got awhile back. Tissue cultures from Florida. They came in the same maybe 3"x3"x3" pots as the Blue Ischia and I up potted them to 1 gallon but the roots stayed in a ball more or less, just like Pete was warning about. They haven't done much since they got here so I took Pete's suggestion and was amazed with all the roots. Now that they're all spread out with room to grow in a 3 gallon I am hoping the vegitation catches up to the roots.

Tami,

With roots like that, I wouldn't be surprised if those little trees shoot up into orbit.  LSU Ps are very strong trees and like to grow.

Thanks,

noss

Thanks Noss, I sure hope so, I was getting really discouraged with their performance and now I know it was my fault all along. They both took the root wash, nasty leaf removal and repot without blinking, no wilting or anything.

I'm almost embarassed to tell you guys, Pete hadn't put up instructions yet and I took them out of the pots and basically power washed the roots with the shower setting on the hose. I guess in some peoples minds it can be considered water current..haha.

I'm really glad it was one of the stronger varities though.

Available once again on ebay....400532263084

thought about this long and hard. i'll wait to see what my Ischia Black UCD will look like before going this route. just too many figs, it's hard to weed through which ones will stay with me in next few yrs.

So I ended up buying a few of the Blue Ischia off Amazon (Hirt's Garden) as well as LSU Purple.  Will be interested to see how they turn out!

Herman, how is yours growing this year?

Tim

Came in the mail today.  LSU Purple stems had lignified and very well rooted while Blue Ischia were very very young, looked like they had just been moved to their pots, and the stems were completely green.  Let's hope they hold up!  Anyone have pics of theirs after growing a few months?

 

Just got mine in the mail. Soft and puny, about 5 inches tall, recently up potted to a 4 inch pot. It will need some shade and TLC, but it was a good price.

Mine are several months old and just got moved to a 5 gallon bucket. I will try to get pics for you tomorrow.

It look healthy but growing very slow,no fruits yet.

[QUOTE=timclymer]Came in the mail today.  LSU Purple stems had lignified and very well rooted while Blue Ischia were very very young, looked like they had just been moved to their pots, and the stems were completely green.  Let's hope they hold up!  Anyone have pics of theirs after growing a few months?<br><br><a href="/file?id=1599189" rel="lightbox" target="_blank"><img src="http://files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/thumb/1599189" class="bbc_img"></a> [/QUOTE]

I received mine like you see in the photo above 2 months ago and now it is about 2 ft tall. Dont worry about it being too young, give some nice soil and it will grow fast. Try to introduce to sun early, the figs will benefit from it a lot. I will post a photo in a few days, travelling now. Yeah, make sure they are not root bound while repotting.

Any updates on your plants?
Attached is my Updated picture and the same plant when first up potted. It is currently 20 inches tall from soil line, the lower branches will be pruned once we have a few consecutive days of dry weather, because it is being trained as a single stem. Its currently growing in a 3 gallon container.

Bump.  Did anyone with these Blue Ischia trees get figs this year?  Any confirmation whether they match Ischia Black, as greenfig's link in post #13 suggests?

Mike   central NY state, zone 5a

p.s.  Hirt's has them available again.

Mine is about 5 ft across and tall but no figs yet. I hope to see some next year. It definitely has a lot of suckers though...

I bought one too.  
The bad:  they're tiny... very small.
The good:  there are about 6 of them in the 4" pot.  I'll separate them in the next few days and end up with 5 or 6 trees.

Mike

Mike, Don't worry, they will grow very fast! Make sure the trees are not root bound when you repot them. Good luck!

Here is one of my Blue Ischias pictured in the post #20 above when received. The pot is 4 gal, it is on a loan chair. There are no figs yet, it has grown a lot, as you can see.
The other one is slightly smaller in size.
Date: Dec.05, 2013

Has anyone with this fig been able to get theirs to fruit yet? Any additional info besides what's already here?
I just got mind and I up potted it to a 1gl. Very healthy multi branched with healthy roots.

Per the last pictures greenfig posted on 12-05-2013 I don't see it being the same as the Black Ischia.

My 2 are in 5 gallon buckets and are budding out. I haven't got fruit yet but they are about 4' tall each. I am hating the suckering going on. I am cutting suckers off those buggers constantly! Almost like Alma and Magnolia for suckers. Is anyone else having this problem with them? They better be good OR ELSE!

Thanks Tami,

As far as the suckers go this is another nonsimilarity to a Black ischia.
Which further confirms my doubts.

But it could be something special.

Same here, lots of suckers and grows like weed. About 4 ft tall with many leaves but I do not see any figlets yet. Harvey mentioned after his conversion with a breeder that it may need to grow tall first and then a tip cutting is needed to be taken and propagated for it to keep the plant small. Or something like that

Ok, here it is:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1281602525&postcount=33

"... I mentioned the lack of fruiting of my Sierra tree which he helped develop.  He asked of my source and he pointed out that fig trees propagated by tissue culture as mine was often return to juvenility and that they must be allowed to grow up for at least 4'-5' to start fruiting again.  If I understood him correctly, I should root a new tip cuttings if I want a tree with branches that fruit at a low height.  That is something folks should keep in mind when considering tissue culture trees. ..."

Agree with Rafed no suckers develop on plant but wish i had the problem as Javajunkie where they have to be cut
off on constant basis and grows like a weed !

Rafed perhaps one day UcDavis Ischia Black will snap out of it like the Madeira i learned to be patient with this cultivar 
it does seem to want to produce figs as i had to take some off last season for its current small size but no suckers.

Martin,

I have a Black ischia (AD). Healthy and productive.
I purchased this one just to see for myself what it is all about. I paid like $7 or $8 for it.

This one has the leaves of a typical BI but I cannot understand why greenfigs plant has different leaves. Am I missing something?

Here are some pictures from the one I just got.

I take back what I said about greenfig BI.
I retract my doubts.

Looking at it a little closer, greenfigs BI does have the heart shaped leaves on it. Closer to the bottom near the pot.

Sorry

Rafed, I can take a new photo tomorrow of the fresh this year's leaves.
I do not have a Black Ischia so it is hard to compare it with my Blue.
What evident is that the Blue is very healthy looking plant and a very strong grower (as far as the wood and leaves go). I had to repot them twice last year.

If you can take close ups of the leaves that would be great. But I think I rushed judgment and didn't mean to hit the panic button.

But looking at the pictures of your post #20 and the pictures of the ones Tami and ascpete posted do resemble an 'Ischia'. And exactly what mine looks like.

Again, sorry for rushing judgment.

No worries! I'll snap a photo of a close up. But no figs, this is the only fig plant without any figlets at this time of the year yet (I hope they will show up at some point!). 

We have contact! My potted Blue Ischia has just started putting out 5 or 6 breba figlets. I have a terrible record here in Tallahassee getting brebas to mature, however Rafed, the leaves will change as the plant matures.

I traded with a guy on Gardenweb last year, he said it was a tissue culture Black Ischia, tiny plant. Some posters said it looked like Blue Ischia on eBay from Hirt, others said looked like Mulberry.  The plant put out a lot of branches but no figs the first year. Rooted cuttings this year.

 

Pictures of the dominant leaves and a 7 lobed leaf formed on a fast growing branch, from last October.
  
I was originally concerned that the tissue cultured Blue Ischia was the same cultivar as the tissue cultured Green Ischia, but they are not. I have both and they seem to be different but neither produced figs last year. Hopefully someone will be able to give a definitive Blue Ischia report this year.

Frank,

That's great news. At least we know now it will produce.
Time to unretire the Ninja suit. But first I have to call Wonder Woman and ask her to give me a ride.

KK,

Those are some nice looking leaves.

Any updates from those growing this tissue cultured cultivar?
I'm currently training a backup plant to replace the larger tree that was killed this past winter, so I will not have any figs this season.

Still grows like a weed and no figs yet for me.
I can see a few buds but at this time it hard to say if they the new leaves or the fig embryos.

    Just gave my Ischia Blue away to a fellow who has expressed an interest in growing fig trees...I was going to hang on to it, but after Frank's(FMD) report, I did the handoff and whished him luck with his new hobby...I'm in the process of downsizing anyway, so I try to place my trees in the hands of folks who will take care of them.