I find it curious that Pofigist is having a battle about fig authenticity to put it loosely, and after a year of being on here hasn't posted or commented on or about any topics having to deal specifically with figs, growing figs or a fig variety. Just seems odd.

I am not selling anything yet. I am just researching," what and why".
I have a farm and looking for plants to grow. May be figs, but need more time to research.
It is why legal aspect more  interesting  for me than rumors and emotions.

Need to know how to buy and sell, what is good and what is bad. And fig authenticity seems a huge problem.
Like an idea that one can use this forum as a platform for free advertisement big time.

If you start a post saying where you live and your grow zone, general climate, people will give you helpful suggestions. From there it's trying. There are about 2000 cultivars of ficus Carica, not all grow well everywhere, not all grow in the time your zone allows, not all will be to your liking, and some need the wasp. It's a learning by doing process more than anything else.

It's very simple. You need to grow some figs first, then you hire a lawyer to help you with the paperwork.

My personal opinion is that we are once again dealing with the abcd/Bernard/garden/Alex complex
attempting a strange retribution for their failing ebay sales.

I am not selling anything yet. I am just researching," what and why".
I have a farm and looking for plants to grow. May be figs, but need more time to research.
It is why legal aspect more  interesting  for me than rumors and emotions.

Need to know how to buy and sell, what is good and what is bad. And fig authenticity seems a huge problem.
Like an idea that one can use this forum as a platform for free advertisement big time.



Wow realy?
I still have our e-mails from few years back..
And you are don't try to sell??? Wow..

@Paul, I mean this whole episode in unnecessary. Pofigist, regarding fig authenticity, just to make you feel better, my best figs are unknowns. So don't worry about fig authenticity unless you end up with an apple tree on your farm. You don't need to attack your fellow growers/Sellers on a personal level in order to do your research.

Sas,

You're dealing with a chimera.It'll morph as conditions require.

Olga... Frankly you don't need to defend yourself from scammer moles.... As far as I personally am concerned, you have earned your stripes and your reputation on the forums and FB by virtue of your love of your plants and open interactions with the community; your reputation is solid. When I scan through eBay, I look to see if you have anything posted because I am confident of the quality of the plants that you make available and I am confident that regardless of whether the variety in question is an unknown or a formally named cultivar, it is there because it is worth having. Thumbs up!

I also scan the eBay postings and shake my head at all the ass wipe scammer auctions posted by the likes of the dregs of society; we know who they are, we watch, we warn those who listen and shake our heads when another victim falls pray to a cheap auction posting for what will prove out to be dead wood. We shake our heads because they operate with impunity on eBay, often aided and abetted in their criminal activity by the system they abuse. I guess its hard for eBay to cut off the scammers from operating when doing so results in a loss of their share of the auction sale.... Sometimes we see those scammers create forum id's and attempt to sow uncertainty; more frequently we see scammer moles trying to acquire free or cheap wood in bulk from forum members so that they can use that wood to send to auction buyers; buy advertised Ponte Tresa; get sent commodity BT (likely last years wood). 

In this case, it seems that a personal vendetta has been the cause of this forum posting; regardless of what the underlying intent of the post or who Pofigist really is (so many aliases, so little time), I doubt very much if many, or any, forum members in good standing really care much what Pofigist has to say (it may be time to discard that id and create a new one if the id is suspect) although he/she has every right to post whatever he/she wishes until such time that they run afoul of forum rules and get kicked off. If I were you, I would let their accusations and innuendo rub off your shoes just like any other dog crap you accidentally step on... and move on.

[QUOTE=Olga]Hi, Vinny, my own still have no figs on..
But , they originally come from the same place..[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that reply olga.
I know that source sells excellent cuttings, if you are recommending this variety then it must be a special one.

Cheers

Pofigist, whatever the intent of attacking Olga was it has backfired on you and simply served as a platform for her integrity to be made public. I, for one, never heard of her before this post was started. Now I've made her a seller I follow because so many well-respected forum members rose up and spoke for her. I won't hesitate to bid if she has something I'm interested in.

I do post on Rafed fig group a lot..
Easy to post pictures..
I right now went outside , we have right now 83F..
I made couple pictures a small one Chiapetta what I got from Peter and another one BLk Tuscan.. a gift from my dear friend ..
Wow, I try to resize and even 63 KB can't be post..
I don't sure how to post pictures here..

A thumbs up for arachyd's post. I agree and could not have said it better, and I also now have Olga added to my followed seller on eBay due to glowing comments posted here. If the more active well respected members of this forum themselves respect Olga, then that is good enough for me.

CliffH.

Cripes!!

Are you AKA peony77?

If you are, please leave, stay away, shut up and die.

If that is you pm me, 8 years of screwing people

Mike we try to be polite here, throwing stones never ends well.

I actually glad her post bring me here..
I don't come here too often, only when I want to do research on some fig.. My friend told me about this post, so I check it out..
But because of this topic now I know about situation in Malta, situation with beetles here..
I did  study something new and important..Now I feel little bit more protected from beetles because malathion, at list I can sleep..
I did post this info few years back, but may be this will be helfull for somebody else here..

[QUOTE=Olga]I actually glad her post bring me here..
I don't come here too often, only when I want to do research on some fig.. My friend told me about this post, so I check it out..
But because of this topic now I know about situation in Malta, situation with beetles here..
I did  study something new and important..Now I feel little bit more protected from beetles because malathion, at list I can sleep..
I did post this info few years back, but may be this will be helfull for somebody else here..

Thanks again Olya!  It goes to show the close relationship of our immune system and our food.

The one difficult thing is that some people just don't have the discipline to follow a strict regiment like this and give up old habits that they have enjoyed for years. 
When decision time hits it is very difficult and may be too late anyway.

[QUOTE=pofigist]All I want to know if it is legal to bring/sell/buy cuttings from continent .
I simply do not want to buy something which will include as a bonus visit from Agriculture.
Do not imply any other ideas.[/QUOTE]

Well FYI, it depends on each individual . If you are prepared to take that risk by all means do it and keep your mouth shut. Where do you think ponte tresa came from ?.. did someone imported it legally?.. I can also tell you that quiet a few well known members traded, bought ponte tresa cuttings from me , some even got it for FREE , and some even managed to get a fruit out of it since it's very healthy cutting straight from mother tree. They are just not man enough or have the balls to admit it and acts like some posh privileged class , pure BS lol.

It was first honest answer. Respect!

I will post this massage few times, just to make sure that it is what you get if you play against some very vindictive members of this forum.
I know my action will hurt some members, but it is what it is- illegal trade should be stopped.

Just got a visit from USDA. They got a phone call from concerned citizen- fig collector from CA.

It was about my eBay purchases from other countries. They give me name of a person as I refused to answer any questions before I know a source of complaint. I will not mention a name, will let you guess if you know something about fig community.

One of the sellers/growers/collectors who is losing a lot from GreenFin operation and has a lot of friends in Thailand. It is really easy to guess. Especially taking into consideration person who is attacking GreenFin very aggressive lately. What a coincidence….

Let me tell you what is going to happen now.

I will start working on eBay information available for public- who is selling and getting fig cuttings from oversees. Really easy to get all this information from eBay seller feedback. And identity and country from buyer is clearly indicated on their profile. Easy as cake.

I will order from this sellers to get verification of addresses and names. And will not only report them to USDA but send all purchased cuttings as an evidence and printouts of eBay listings with names of cuttings and description of figs.  “Rare variety from Spain”, let’s say- and it will be up to seller to explain how they got a variety from Spain without legal papers. But it is not a biggest problem- visit from USDA will be fun. 

As this person proudly advertising his Facebook account I will be able to get a lot of information about his varieties and buyers from other countries. Sure it is going to take time, but somebody has to stop this person from feeling to be a king of fig community, even if he is ,it is still not fear to attack fellow fig growers.

Ops.. I forgot that it is not about comradery but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$....

It will explain a lot about few comments about GreenFin and his operation from a member who was registered 10 min before he post a negative comments.

Remember a member who was teaching you that it is illegal to sell/buy to/from other countries, but was getting all kind of cuttings from everywhere and then selling them on eBay?

 I will not mention Ponte Tresa but it is a good example. Remember last year sale of PT cuttings $80 each from CA seller. It must hurt a lot this year as GreenFin selling cuttings of the same tree only for $20.

Please spare your comments about Karma and such, be more specific if you want to discuss this issue.

Remember it is a public forum and it is a free country.

I will be preoccupied with my research and dealing with USDA.

Peonia, 
this is very interesting.. First, if USDA come visit you, this is mean they check yours Ebay account, this is the only way they will come to see you, not because somebody tell them to do this..
So, don't blame other people..
You all the time speaking about stopping people from buying from other countries, but right here you saying USDA visit you, this is mean you got plants or cuttings from other countries, so who do you want to stop first? yourself?
You saying you hear first honest answer and you paid your respect..
Do you know why no one post after?

Olga, you better keep quiet - you have a long record of importing figs from other countries.
I have nothing against you- you may be a perfect person- why not- but importing plants illegally has nothing to do with that.
And please stop guessing who I am, it is pointless. But you probably have few “admirers" as you keep mentioning the same names.

OK, we don't talk here about me any more..
You now try to attack another person..
You don't like peonia.. I see you like much better dausername?
May be USDA come because you try to sell Blk Madeira, White Madeira, Vasilika Mavra Sika?
They don't sound local?
I don't see any point for you here to try to blame another person here for USDA visit..
Here everyone know they do watch Ebay accounts and if you even one time got anything from other country they keep watching your account..and they keep coming with visits..
Real I can't understand you...

Nop.... Wrong...... I was talking about you as illegal importer of figs from Italy, lets say.
So do not change a topic.

So, this is you or me got visited?
You start post talking about USDA visited you???

Please, and you start your old song with calling me names and accusations. It is a different tune, darling.

Olga, hope you offer more of your find, what a decent price it went for too! Don't pay attention to the guy with that stick sticking out from where the sun don't shine.
My collection is modest as I can't swing bucks for the rare ones, and don't want to sell to make the money back, I tend to give away figs, so I'm never able to make the money back.