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FMD

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This is the second crop of Petit Negri and they are much larger than the early crop.

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The other surprise is that the birds are leaving them be. Perhaps that's because of the super-realistic snake I made from a piece of garden hose....Not.


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Almost forgot, they are pretty tasty.




saramc

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How old is that tree?

Those figs look divine.

JD

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Frank,
I think the birds have migrated or went on vacation. I haven't seen a Mocking bird in weeks. I noted the date for future reference. How fortunate for us. I continue to be thankful.

leon_edmond

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Beautiful tree and fruit but the leaves and fruit don't match Petite Negri.
Could this possibly be Noire de Caromb?

FMD

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Hi Sara, this is the second year it in the ground. I kept it in a pot the two previous years making sure it had a large diameter trunk. I like my trees to look like trees and not bushes. If you would like a cutting, I would be happy to share.

JD, we are the luckiest fig people in the world. Where else can you get two full crops per year. I wouldn't even call the first crop breba since the figs were smaller than the fall crop.

leon, you bring great doubts to my secure world of fig identification. I'm pretty sure I bought this from EL so unless Mike McKlonsky mislabeled it, it should be a Petite Negri. However, looking at pictures of Noire de Caromb gives me pause. Below is one more picture that might help. Notice the red blush of the early leaves. Do you know if NdC has a such a blush. I hope that some of NdC growers like Gorgi, Herman, Rafed, Pauly would help ne with this. Thanks.

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One more of the leaves:


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nelson20vt

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Leaves certainly resemble noire de carombe. Definately not a petite negri leaf, and yes Noire de Carombe does get red tips.

JD

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Frank,
We are fortunate. California and Louisiana are two other states where multiple crops are possible.

Can you post a picture of the dominant leaf/leaves...separated from the tree?

Caneyscud

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Don't know whether to

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or just

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Wait I got two crops!  One whole fig on 8/14/11 and one whole fig on 8/17/11 - that makes 2 crops don't it? 

Nope, I'm not envious at all!  LOL  But then again, we actually do have a winter - well sorta - but we do have good fishing!

possum_trot

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Those figs do look mighty tasty! I have a Petite Negri from Raintree but it hasn't fruited for me yet. Is that duck tape around the base of the trunk? What is it for? Also, if you have a spare cutting of that tree I would love to buy one ( or a couple) from you...
Thanks.

FMD

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Susan, the duct tape is at the end of the snippet of water hose only. The base of the trunk is surrounded by sweet potato leaves. Does your tree look like the one above?  Are your leaves similar? Pm me re cuttings., if you don't mind

JD, I'll try and post pictures of individual leaves over the weekend, perhaps veteran owners of  Noire de Carombe can help identify it as such.

Frank


nkesh099

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Figs don't look like my NdC. But, a picture of the dominant leaf would help.


Navid


FMD

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A few more pictures  including the dominant leaf type and a close-up of fleshy parts.

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JP

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Hi FDM,

Please excuse my stupid question, but what is EL?

John

nypd5229

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Edible Landscaping- online nursery

Bass

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Here's the leaves of a petite negri that I used to have. A branch would produce one type of leaves, while the other produces the brunswick type leaves. The fig did look like what you've had. 

JP

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Thank you nypd. I should of known that but I am new to the figs and all the acronyms that go along with them.

FMD

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Thanks Bass for removing any doubt. It is a Petite Negri as far as I am concerned.

leon_edmond

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I respectfully disagree. I do not think you have a Petite Negri. FMD, you either have NdC or Abicou.

possum_trot

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Frank, my tree does not look like yours but my tree is much smaller and less mature. The leaves of my tree have longer lobes, more "finger' like than yours. But, of course, mine might not be a Petite Negri either, although it came from Raintree.

FMD

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This GW thread might help explain what may be going on:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg1008532931790.html

"I looked up this fig on the internet. In this book, 
THE FRUIT MANUAL a guide to THE FRUITS AND FRUIT TREES OF GREAT BRITAIN; (Hogg) I found the following:

BORDEAUX: Aubignon, Aubique Noir, Aubique Violette, Figue Poir, Petite Aubique, Violette, Violette Longue, Violette de Bordeaux, Nagronne (sic)
Fruit: Large, Long, Pyriform, marked with Ribs. Very much flattened laterally and one side of the apex hanging down more than the other. Skin quite black covered with a fine blue bloom and when dead ripe cracked with white longitudinal lines. Stalk very short, eye open, flesh pale coppery colored, very tender and juicy, sugary and sweet. Excellent:"

My second season crop fits this description completely.


From another thread, our own Jon weighs in re Petite Negri:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg0606184416481.html


"{Petit Negri] Could actually be one of several different varieties, as well: Violette de Bordeaux, Negronne, etc. There seem to be varying reports on its growth and fruiting that are not consistent."


The early season crop on my tree was a lot smaller and uniform in shape:

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One more quote:

"There are two types of Aubique fig cultivars. One is the larger fig known as "Aubique" (AKA Abicou) which fits Hogg's description above. The other is a smaller fig known as "PETITE Aubique" (means Little Aubique). Petitie Aubique is the same or very similar to the cultivars Negronne, VdB, and Beer's Black." 


Perhaps Petite Negri  is a Bordeaux variant behaving differently depending on first/second crop, location, zone etc. etc etc.

Whatever the answer, I am glad it it is part of my collection.


Frank



nypd5229

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I believe Herman describes this (Aubique Petite) as a different variety from any Bourdeaux. He describes his as being very good.  I got some cuttings from him last year and I could not root one in water, while most others had no problem.


This is not to take away from what your saying. It quite possibly could be a variant of VdB.

daygrower

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Frank
Maybe on this one to save confusion and since other fig folks are going to have it soon it can be called
Petite Nigri (FMD) for now
Just a thought