| Encanto Farms Nursery > Categories > "De La Reina MP" a promising variety |
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Axier
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I hope to get soon this variety, according to Monserrat descriptions, it is one of the best he has. |
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coldspringsfarm
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Wow, this looks spectacular. I am intrigued by all your information. Thanks for sharing. |
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pitangadiego
Registered: Posts: 5,447 |
Those pix look suspiciously like Black Mission NL, and others. |
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Axier
Registered: Posts: 217 |
Yes, it looks very similar. In fact, it is said that Black Mission was carried to California by Balearic Franciscans. It could be a close related variety, or maybe the same! As far as I know, Monserrat literally scanned the Balearic island and he only found a few trees of "De La Reina MP" just in Orient, a Majorcan small village. If I have the chance, I will ask Monserrat about his opinion. |
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satellitehead
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Black Mission was the first thought to my head as well. |
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Axier
Registered: Posts: 217 |
I have just received the reply from Monserrat regarding this question. |
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gorgi
Registered: Posts: 2,864 |
Good news... I am sure that eventually it will be distributed. |
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Axier
Registered: Posts: 217 |
George, you are right, at least I know one member that has the exact same variety. |
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gorgi
Registered: Posts: 2,864 |
More good news! Some DLR cuttings are currently available [hint:] around this neighbourhood ... |
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rafed
Registered: Posts: 5,308 |
Anyone that has it for sale please P.M. or email me. |
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71GTO
Registered: Posts: 1,002 |
Rafed, There is a variety with this name on the encantofarms cuttings list. |
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rafed
Registered: Posts: 5,308 |
Thanks Marcus, |
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rcantor
Registered: Posts: 5,727 |
What? I only see
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hoosierbanana
Registered: Posts: 2,186 |
Aww shucks rcantor... You need to click on the blue hyperlink that says "printable list" at the bottom of the instructions page to see the list. You will have another shot with the second half of the list. |
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Axier
Registered: Posts: 217 |
I want to emphasize that, only "De la Reina MP" is the true one. There are others "De la Reina" which are or not the above mentioned. |
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rafed
Registered: Posts: 5,308 |
Ok,
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paully22
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Rafed, still got hope. How about telling your misses lets go on a Mediterrean trip. That would likely solve your problem. Axier said MP has many excellent varieties. It would be a good chance to samples some of these rare variants overthere. I would love to go there one of these days to sample Mediterrean figs. I got a bottle of fig jam present today from my boy who came back from Sydney. |
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rafed
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Paul, |
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paully22
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ha ha ha Rafed. Make sure you bring some doggie biscuits incase the dogs decide to be unfriendly. I would bring some when I visit him as I cannot Jump & run fast enough.... just in case. |
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OttawanZ5
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I wish so much it was time in summer and some similar fig fruits as shown by Axier were hanging from my plants !! |
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rafed
Registered: Posts: 5,308 |
Paul, |
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kurab2556
Registered: Posts: 56 |
I found Reina in fig farm of Málaga. This picture from his fig farm. |
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RichinNJ
Registered: Posts: 1,687 |
I hate when that happens |
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Axier
Registered: Posts: 217 |
[QUOTE=Axier]I want to emphasize that, only "De la Reina MP" is the true one. There are others "De la Reina" which are or not the above mentioned. |
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leon_edmond
Registered: Posts: 923 |
Notice how the fig trees are planted in that orchard. Two together, twisted, same hole. |
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SoniSoni
Registered: Posts: 777 |
Can someone tell me please what is the reason for planting double and twisted ? |
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brianm
Registered: Posts: 971 |
This is interesting! In Fresno CA. I found an abandoned orchard that had black mission and calimyrna planted together. One of each in the same hole. I wonder why? |
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SoniSoni
Registered: Posts: 777 |
Do you suppose the reason is that when the trees fuse together they assume the attributes of a natural trunk that has that much girth? or is it for stability in a windy location? or WHY? |
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Herman2
Registered: Posts: 2,625 |
Gene Hosey,Kathleen Black is an exact match to De La Reina. |
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SoniSoni
Registered: Posts: 777 |
That's good news for me. I have KB and probaly never be able to get a De La Reina. |
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Chivas
Registered: Posts: 1,675 |
Most likely it is done so you can reduce your time to a fully productive canopy by having both trees in there as well as adding additional support. the other benifit I can see is if the one tree has a decline you can easily remove it and not have to remove the entire tree but support the one if neccessary and train the tree to bigger canopy without the same downtime as replanting it. That's is just my thought. |
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SoniSoni
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good thinking ! I didnt think that far down the road. |
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jdsfrance
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Hi, |
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cis4elk
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Another reason could be different ripening times. That way your plot produces over a longer period. |
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SoniSoni
Registered: Posts: 777 |
I'll try this with a couple figlings that are growing strauight up without laterals. Will the 2 trunks fuse together like a graft and become one? or can one die without killing the other? hmmm, co-joined twins.. |
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eboone
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I would be concerned about mixing of possible different FMV strains...not sure if that is a valid concern or not |
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Rewton
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Herman2, according to Pons' book DLR is a very productive variety. On the other hand KB certainly starts out slow with respect to productivity. Mine is finishing its 3rd season with no ripe figs (though it was heavily damaged by the winter last year). When it is fully mature would you say that it is very productive? |
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Axier
Registered: Posts: 217 |
I doubt that KB and "De la Reina" are the same variety. |
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Aaron4USA
Registered: Posts: 2,969 |
The only answer I have gotten from people who twist fig trees together is the Space Issue. |
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Aaron4USA
Registered: Posts: 2,969 |
Looking at the picture where the figs are on the ground, now I know why I can't stand dry figs...Chewing sand in dry figs has never been my fav thang. |
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Chivas
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Overpollination of figs will lead to splitting and quality problems from what I have read so farms are not tending to too many caprifigs in their orchards so they do not over pollinate. I have heard nonetheless that some farms will graft a couple branches of a caprifig onto their tree so that each tree will get pollinated without needing to string caprifigs in them. |
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Aaron4USA
Registered: Posts: 2,969 |
Chivas, |
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pino
Registered: Posts: 2,118 |
To my untrained "new to figs" eyes in photos; |
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Herman2
Registered: Posts: 2,625 |
Answering to Rewton: |
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leon_edmond
Registered: Posts: 923 |
My De La Reina (MP) is a young tree. It produced just one fig this season and it was excellent. Very impressive for being the first fig from this tree. I took photos of the dominant leaves from my tree. I'm sure that more variation of the leaves will occur as the tree matures. |
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RichinNJ
Registered: Posts: 1,687 |
great looking Spanish fig you have there |
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Rewton
Registered: Posts: 1,946 |
Herman, my KB is in an excellent spot for sun - at least 8 hours per day. However, to be fair to my KB I don't think I have really given it a really good chance yet. It was rooted mid summer 2012 and planted in the ground in April of 2013. It grew very vigorously that summer. I didn't pinch it heavily and it set a lot of figs actually, but too late to ripen. Then it froze nearly to the ground last winter. The new shoots didn't set nearly as many figs but that is probably a good thing since they have no chance of ripening anyway. I'm going to give it another year or two before making any rash decisions. Clearly it can do well here since I am only a few miles away from Gene's tree at his old place in DC. Anyway, it sounds like Axier grows both De la Reina and Kathleen's Black and believes they are different. I agree though that it seems like they have a lot in common. |
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Herman2
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Yes Leon They are same type of leaves except mine do not show any Fig disease on leaves,and so leaves are much larger,and stronger because the fig is old and it rains a lot here ,compared to your place. |
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persianmd2orchard
Registered: Posts: 431 |
I agree look very similar and dlr is not a late fig I think which is also similar. dlr could b similar by chance tho but different DNA but who knows. I've seen one of Genes old trees of KB in summer 2013 and 2012 and it was fine on production. The tree I'm speaking of covered I think 15 to 20 feet diameter canopy. Once mature no major issues with production it seemed. Not saying it was super productive, but seemed about average productive. |
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Axier
Registered: Posts: 217 |
They are very close, I agree, but to say that they are the same, I don't. |
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