Col de Dame Blanc and Coll de Dama Blanca Col de Dame Noir and Coll de Dama Negra Are these French and Spanish varieties the same variety or different?
RichinNJ
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Updated.. fixed an error in naming.
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I think they are the same.
I think it is Spanish?
jkuo
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Well, the names are certainly similar enough to suggest they are. France and Spain are close enough that it wouldn't be surprising if the varieties migrated and just kept the same [translated] name.
On another note, seeing "coll" throws off my admittedly very rusty Spanish. I don't think I've ever seen a Spanish word end in a double L. Is it short of "collar" or something?
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I think it mdans neck of the Lady?
Collar de Dama?
Cuello?
Col de dame is French.
Cuello de dama is Spanish.
Neck of the lady is English.
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They are the same varieties. MP lists them as synonyms in his book.
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[QUOTE=HarveyC]They are the same varieties. MP lists them as synonyms in his book.[/QUOTE]
Perfect..Thanks Harvey
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Interesting thread, thanks Rich for starting the thread and the other members for clarity, I am learning and really appreciate these type of threads.
RichinNJ
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[QUOTE=waynea]Interesting thread, thanks Rich for starting the thread and the other members for clarity, I am learning and really appreciate these type of threads.[/QUOTE]
You're welcome
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Check out Axier's website (http://www.galgoni.com/ENG/Fotos_Maxi/014.htm) for more informationand nice pictures. It also includes other alternative names
"As curious interesting observations are made by Mann: the name Bouankirk signifies “long neck.” The Kabyles (North Africa) also designate the variety by the names D’Abouch Takli, “breast of a negress,” and Abgait. It is widely grown in North Africa, but on account of thickness of skin it is not dried commercially. "
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Scott, thanks for making me author of that web site :-), but I am not.
That web site is of Xon2000, an old member of figs4fun. For those with doubts, Col de Dame Blanc and Coll de Dama Blanca, Col de Dame Noir and Coll de Dama Negra are the same variety. "Col de Dame" is the French name and "Coll de Dama" is the Catalan name, not the Spanish name, because it is a Catalan and Balearic variety.
"Col", "Coll", and "Cuello" are the respectives names in French, Catalan and Spanish.
Don't confound with "Cuello de Dama Blanca" it is a completely different spanish variety:
[QUOTE=Axier]Scott, thanks for making me author of that web site :-), but I am not.
That web site is of Xon2000, an old member of figs4fun. For those with doubts, Col de Dame Blanc and Coll de Dama Blanca, Col de Dame Noir and Coll de Dama Negra are the same variety. "Col de Dame" is the French name and "Coll de Dama" is the Catalan name, not the Spanish name, because it is a Catalan and Balearic variety.
"Col", "Coll", and "Cuello" are the respectives names in French, Catalan and Spanish.
Don't confound with "Cuello de Dama Blanca" it is a completely different spanish variety:
The next question is "Do you like the Coll de Dama Blanca and Negra?" Some people I have talked to locally say they are "..awesome..." but I have read on some sites that its only "..good.." tasting. What do you think? Do they really taste the same?
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IMHO, Coll de Dama is the king of figs. A well ripened Coll de Dama is the best.
Unfortunately, it is a very late fig and it is difficult in my climate to get a well ripened one.
CDD Blanca and Negra are similar.
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My apologies to Xon2000, it's a great site and thanks for educating us Axier.
I really like Col de Dame's berry taste and birds here tend to leave it alone as it doesn't look ripe. Needs a long season and so far is a shy bearer here. But in late October, there are not many ripe figs but it and Black Madeira.
Scott
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[QUOTE=Axier]IMHO, Coll de Dama is the king of figs. A well ripened Coll de Dama is the best.
Unfortunately, it is a very late fig and it is difficult in my climate to get a well ripened one.
CDD Blanca and Negra are similar. [/QUOTE]