I've been asking people to identify this variety. I got this from a friend who owns an arboretum . He usually sells Ornamental trees. He got a huge fig tree in his nursery and propagated one tree for me in 2013 . According to him this tree originates possibly from Spain or Portugal from one of his holiday. I have posted all different forms of leaf shapes and pictures of main crops. This is the first time I tasting this fig. As with all Brebas very sweet, but not watery at all. It had very nice flavour, almost like a caramel. It's a slow grower but puts out clusters of figs . I'm not sure about the colour of the fig as it was a bit shaded. Anyway It's a winner for me, can't wait to taste the main crops..Enjoy the pics!

Lovely fig, nice shaped fruit. Is it outside or in a greenhouse?

It had an early start in the greenhouse, left it out till last week. Brought back in as I didn't want to take a chance and loose the fig to the wind . I think it's a Portuguese variety called Bacorinho!

Looks good,glad to hear it's doing so well in sunny Bognor!,Maybe some the members from that neck of the woods could help ID it

[QUOTE=haslamhulme]Looks good,glad to hear it's doing so well in sunny Bognor!,Maybe some the members from that neck of the woods could help ID it[/QUOTE]

Thanks,
I don't think this fig will ripen outdoors without splitting badly. A proper ventilated greenhouse is a must for almost all my figs.

It sure looks like a Pingo de Mel strain, Vinny.

I'm saying that based on a neighbor's tree of that same, very common variety, over here.

I have a Moscatel Branco (that in some areas is used as a synonym for Pingo de Mel).
It really is a very similar fig, but my strain at least is not so early (Late august, instead of early August for the main crop) and the fig is a bit more elongated.
Furthermore, i have never tasted a Breba as it gives very few and they usually drop. 
But it compensates that with plenty of delicious main crop figs. 

A few photos of my tree - this year i had a few health problems and i didn't prune it, so it's a bit on the wild side (more figs).
Also, we had a couple of weeks with very high temperatures, i was absent and i didn't water it in time, so some leaves are showing that hydric stress (yellowing, with some fungus and they will soon fall).

Nothing to worry about, as the tree is very resilient and it will bounce back without any problems.

I also included a few photos of last year's crop.

       

Thanks ,

Is the Pingo De Mel strain with Brebas called 7-Camadas or something??

I've recently remembered something that Francisco has told me. That in different conditions, some of our varieties can produce more prolific Breba crops when they don't do it so often over here. Probably because of colder winters than we have in Portugal.

What i can say is that you probably have a regular strain of Pingo de Mel - not necessarily the more prolific one, with the bigger Brebas, that has the name 7 camadas, that Francisco has mentioned.

I believe that many strains of Pingo de Mel that we have over here are capable of producing Brebas like the one you picked, but climatic conditions, birds, pruning methods and a marked preference for the main crop, tends to make them less frequent.
 

I like this fig alot. Looks almost blue / black in the inside. I feel you have a special variety for sure. We should form a tread or something on just the best unknowns. Doesn't really matter the name. The fig speeks for itself.

Jsacadura,
Thanks a lot for taking time and replying. After reading further about Pingo de Mel, I think in Portugal there are many figs going under that name. For now I'm just gonna call it an unknown and I was told by the person who sold it to me that it gets slightly darker. Its a delicious fig with an excellent flavour, I can't wait for main crops to ripen .

Richie,
I couldn't agree more.
Thanks

Vinny,

The main crop should tell us more about that fig. Best of luck with it and be sure to post some pictures when they are ripe.

Great looking fruit! Enjoy!

Looks interesting.  I love seeing these unknown that crop up unexpectedly.  I look at it this way.  People most likely would not say this fig taste terrible so I will carefully bring it to another country and take care of it for years.  They would try and bring something that was the best.  Just because they didn't know the name or maybe it never had one doesn't make it any less tasty.

That fig is Desert King.
If the wasp is not present in your area you will  not like main crop taste!(sorry about bad news,regarding main crop).
However the Breba is indeed delicious and bountiful.!

[QUOTE=Herman2]That fig is Desert King.
If the wasp is not present in your area you will  not like main crop taste!.[/QUOTE]
I have about 3 dessert King, one inground and they looks different, the guy who gave it to me said it puts out two crops and the leaves are primarily tri lobbed and single lobbed (see pics all different leaf patterns are there).
I am attaching a pic of my dessert King .

From the Seattle area where DK is the best in ground fig. The climate here is similar to the UK.

My DK looks quite different from this unknown. There's never been a single lobe leaf that I've seen on my DKs.

 

 

 

 

 

Herman,

The ostiole and general aspect of the Breba does seem similar to Desert King. But if Vinny's tree originates from the Iberian Peninsula i would be very much surprised if someone on holiday in either Spain or Portugal would get their hands on a Desert King, as it's not what we would call a common variety over here.

Well, in a few weeks we will know for sure. It doesn't seem that those main crops figs are going to drop anytime soon (they seem too big for that) and those clusters do seem very similar to our Pingo de Mel strains.

Jsacadura
I agree with you. My dessert King be very produce clusters of figs also DK is a very vigorous grower . Taste is different too. It's funny because all my Italian friends are saying its Dottato, Portuguese are saying its Pingo de Mel and Americans DK lol . It could well be a PDM strain as you say but definitely not a DK. We have dessert King growing everywhere in my country like in Seattle.

Ben,
Thanks mate those are some beautiful pics.

As binbin9 Desert King fig picture it is apparently different from Vinny unknown fig .They are both different from pulp color and leaf shape.Why some people insisting on wrong guessing ,it is really interesting.Just waiting to see true guessing..

My Desert KingPixies:
From Burnt Ridge nursery:It has ,one lobe and three lobes leaves,and it is genuine.

[QUOTE=Herman2]My Desert KingPixies:
From Burnt Ridge nursery:It has ,one lobe and three lobes leaves,and it is genuine.[/QUOTE]
Herman,
Thanks ,
What you have there looks like bauds Blanche . I will post pics tomorrow . The fruit dosen't look similar to be honest, mine has different neck. Dessert King as I know looks like Bens DK. I tasted this unknown with my dessert King and them both tasted completely different, the unknown was almost too sweet and fits the Pingo de Mel category . I think I'll wait till main crop for further comments , but thanks a lot for your response .

By the way there is no fig under that name Dessert King in Europe . I think it's an American named fig. We have Fior di Fico, Fiornone, Bianca, Blanche , Dottato, Pingo de Mel and about a zillion pons figs that got silimilar Brebas.

Purple coloration like that means it did not ripen well, too cool. 

[QUOTE=hoosierbanana]Purple coloration like that means it did not ripen well, too cool. [/QUOTE]
Dottato from an Italian fig grower on the left. Dessert King from a friend in US on the right. And yes we have mild summers with occasional hot weeks, it's England after all lol .

[QUOTE=Herman2]That fig is Desert King.
If the wasp is not present in your area you will  not like main crop taste!(sorry about bad news,regarding main crop).
However the Breba is indeed delicious and bountiful.!

[/QUOTE]

Herman,
Well the main crop ripened, so it's not a dessert King . It fits the Pingo de Mel by Portuguese and Dottato by Italians claim. The first one was ok then again there is like 50 left so I'm happy with it.

A very beautiful fig! Congrats!

[QUOTE=figpig_66]I like this fig alot. Looks almost blue / black in the inside. I feel you have a special variety for sure. We should form a tread or something on just the best unknowns. Doesn't really matter the name. The fig speeks for itself. [/QUOTE]

Richie, i love the idea! I started a thread for unknowns! Love unknowns!
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/the-best-unknowns-7924742

More main crops looks like a Pingo De Mel.

Vinny:Now you convince me!.
You are right and i was wrong.
If it was Desert King,which sometimes do keep second crop,even without fig wasp,and it kept about half on my tree but they were an ugly dark amber inside ,not pink like yours,and they tasted very bad,like cardboard eating.
This is ,what you call Pingo de Mel,and it is also very similar to a Kadota fig i had,in the past.

What a civilised disagreement over figs!,love it.Vinny,nice fig,cool to see Pingo de Mel ripen so well for you here,I had not much considered bothering with many Spanish and Portuguese figs assuming they would ripen too late but can't argue with the results here

There are also some lovely pictures of DK by BinBin9 on this thread,what art!,I'm now convinced that my Sphikas Green Unknkown and DK are one and the same fig,however mine Definately came from Italy,whilst DK was 'discovered' in the states as an unknown and named.Vinny,which named European fig do you think DK corresponds to Most closely?,both me and the guy who gave me the tree are interested to find out,I've also shared it with another member and have one on perlite in my from room next to the fish tank(who said enjoying fig trees was only for the human members of the family!)

Herman ,
Thanks for sharing your expertise and we all have learned a lot from your posts.

Haslam,
Yes mate this forum is a great place to hang arround, lots of great guys here. This variety puts out lots of main crop, not many Brebas . But it needs a greenhouse or polytunnel . Excellent honey fig , tight eye and dosen't split . So it's a keeper . I planted one on my neighbours garden in ground few months ago and they had two Brebas.

[QUOTE=haslamhulme]There are also some lovely pictures of DK by BinBin9 on this thread,what art!,I'm now convinced that my Sphikas Green Unknkown and DK are one and the same fig,however mine Definately came from Italy,whilst DK was 'discovered' in the states as an unknown and named.Vinny,which named European fig do you think DK corresponds to Most closely?,both me and the guy who gave me the tree are interested to find out,I've also shared it with another member and have one on perlite in my from room next to the fish tank(who said enjoying fig trees was only for the human members of the family!)[/QUOTE]

Yes Ben is a professional photographer and has excellent skills. You might want to check out his blog, Seattle fruits and garden adventures.
I think Dessert King is the same as Fico Fiorne in Italy , Blanche in France. Both are San predo types and their leaves & fruits looks Excatly the same. In some villages people call it Bianca , Bianco etc. I cannot confirm the Italians yet as I don't have them but my cousin does and he believes it's same as DK. I can confirm that Baud's Blanche ( Not to be confused with Blanche d'argenteiul ) is identical to DK.
Bauds Blanche Breba attached

I've posted this one up before but here it is again,the colour of the flesh hasn't come out spot on in the pic,more red in real life(thanks I phone!).This is my figs that the owner of the tree gave me and a pic of the mother tree,apparently it can ripen with a bit of a red flush but only on the late ripening ones,this one also only produces one crop.I have yet to see more about how it behaves,young in pot tree so maybe get something from it this year coming,it's growing nicely but picking up a bit of rush now(would post pic but it's dark outside now.Does this match Fico Fiorne?

[QUOTE=haslamhulme]I've posted this one up before but here it is again,the colour of the flesh hasn't come out spot on in the pic,more red in real life(thanks I phone!).This is my figs that the owner of the tree gave me and a pic of the mother tree,apparently it can ripen with a bit of a red flush but only on the late ripening ones,this one also only produces one crop.I have yet to see more about how it behaves,young in pot tree so maybe get something from it this year coming,it's growing nicely but picking up a bit of rush now(would post pic but it's dark outside now.Does this match Fico Fiorne?[/QUOTE]

Yes Verry similar to Fiorne, however the figs on the mother tree got a brown tinge. It could be a Fico Petrelli. I'm sure someone will chime in and offer their suggestions . For me these are some great Figs and reliable producers, but people like fancy names and that includes me lol .

Fico Petrelli isn't a bad name,good old Italian family name anyway,I think when this one gets some propper sun it can get that blush,but the ones I got were very early and must have been lower down more shaded by the leaves.ill see how this one come along,it's a good producer,very at home in London,will see how it does here in the Black Country,whatever it's called it is delicious,my first experience of fig over indulgence,I ate the whole plate myself

Haroon, I have seen that brown blush also on the figs from an unknown fig tree that I have found. The tree has green figs with red pulp like your Sphikas Green Italian. 
My tree is said to be 60 years old and is probably planted there by Italians. Here are some pictures: https://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/unknown-fig-tree-7566128

I think that Desert King, Fillacciano Bianco, Petrelli, Fiorone Bianco,.. are all very similar figs. The same fig can go by different names, depending on the place where it is grown. Every Italian region has probably a different name for these large green San Pedro type figs. And for every name there are probably several strains out there. I think there are different strains of Desert King circulating, for example.

I agree that these are great figs and reliable producers. A must have in our climate!

Vinny, sorry for derailing your topic. Just let me know if you want me to post this elsewhere.