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Subject: Something is gnawing my Fig trees :( Replies: 10
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 268
 
Sorry, no deer or wabbits here in the Maple Leaf Neighborhood of NE Seattle!  Deer can't get to the terminal buds 10 feet above ground anyway.  If they could, there would be severe damage to the tree and surrounding ground.  Also no chipmunks.  No voles either as there are too many cats in the Neighborhood.

With 5 in-ground Figs and 30+ Fig trees in large pots spread throughout my back yard, it's not feasible to net the trees, even to try to protect the fruit during the growing season as the critters get smart after one season and find a way inside.

We do have squirrels, rats (both Norway and Roof), Possums, Raccoons, and of course all sorts of birds but the birds go after the fruit not the branches.  I did trap a roof rat in October 2014 (after 2 years of trying to catch it, it finally took the bait of a not quite ripe main crop Fig) and I haven't seen any of them since.  It could be there is another one around now.

Happy New Year,   kiwibob   Seattle

Subject: Something is gnawing my Fig trees :( Replies: 10
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Something is gnawing my in-ground Fig trees!  Whatever it is, the gnawing just started in the last week and is focusing on the terminal buds and lower buds, primarily on my 25 year old Desert King tree but also on my 15 year old Vashon Violet (Brunswick) tree.  This happened several years ago on rooted cuttings in my greenhouse during the Winter.

I took these photos today after seeing white spots on the branches from my Kitchen window.  The first photo was taken from inside the Kitchen.

The white spots barely visible on the branches are all gnawed.  Desert King at left, Vashon Violet at right.
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Desert King branch with missing terminal bud and two lower bud rings gnawed.
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Gnawed Desert King terminal bud.
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I hope the critter loses its appetite soon before it eats all of the 2017 Breba crop buds.

kiwibob,   Seattle

Subject: Drap d'Or Replies: 17
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 351
 
My two cents worth:

I have a "Royal Vineyard" (aka Drap d'Or) from a Wisconsin source (2010).  It is in a very large pot and attempted to set its first, a few Main crop Figs this year but all have fallen while other Main crop Figs that won't ripen are still hanging on the trees.  Its leaves are somewhat similar to those in Pino's post.

I have a "Grantham's Royal" from a local source (2012) and a "Dauphine" from a NY source (2012) who got his parent plant from UC Davis.  The leaves of "Grantham's Royal" and "Dauphine" do look distinctly similar with coarsely crenate margins, but don't match my "Royal Vineyard".  Some prior posts on this Forum have speculated that "Grantham's Royal" and "Dauphine" are the same variety by different names.  It will be a few more years before I can compare Brebas of these two varieties.  And maybe global warming of 3-5° C before I can compare Main crop Figs of the two here in the Pacific Northwet ;)

To add to the confusion, Malli's Genetic Fingerprinting Study (FigLink 1110) of the UC Davis Collection shows a match between their "Drap d'Or" and "Archipel", the first being a San Pedro type and the latter being a Common type!  The study also lists "Lampeira" and "Adriatic" as genetic matches, again the first being a San Pedro type and the latter being a Common type.  There are several other instances of Figs in the UC Davis Collection of distinctly different varieties per Condit's "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" (available as a downloadable PDF from my website) that Malli's study lists as matches.  Malli's study clearly indicates to me that a number of Figs in the UC Davis Collection are mislabeled!

Since Genetic Fingerprinting is possibly the most reliable method of determining if varieties match each other, it will take comparing the results of several such studies of collections in other countries that have not traded material between themselves to determine if there is actually a match for given named Cultivars.  Even that won't be definitive as it is highly likely that every major Fig Collection contains mislabeled varieties.  I'm sure my collection of ±40 varieties (about 8 of which are known or suspected matches) also contains mislabeled varieties.

Aah, the Joy of Fig ID ;)

kiwibob,   Seattle

Subject: A pollination mystery in September Replies: 19
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 318
 
"I just collected a few ripe Unk. Pastilliere figs (Nov. 15th), it is a Smyrna and must be pollinated to ripen."

According to Condit in "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" (available on my website as a downloadable PDF), page 456, Pastilliere is a Common type Fig, not Smyrna!  If yours is a Smyrna type, best to drop the name Pastilliere and quit adding to the Varietal confusion.

kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Seattle Fruit Show, Saturday October 8, 2016 Replies: 5
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 135
 
Last reminder about the Fruit Show this Saturday.

kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Seattle Fruit Show, Saturday October 8, 2016 Replies: 5
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 135
 
Just a quick reminder about the October 8 Fruit Show for those who haven't seen the post yet.

I picked my first Main Crop "Vashon Violet" (Brunswick) on Thursday.  This is only the second year since planting the tree in 2001 that it has started to ripen some Main Crop Figs.

Yesterday I had to put plastic clamshells over some of the remaining Figs as the critters have decimated about 5 of them this week!  If the critters leave them alone and don't get all of the Lattarulas, I should have a few of both varieties for display at the Fruit Show.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Figs ID help Replies: 5
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 115
 
jdsfrance said:

"You're in Zone8, so "though the second crops seldom ripen" would be translated to "it is a San Pedro type"... But it is just a guess . Do they fall out, or just stay small and never ripen ?"

Not so!  Here in the Pacific Northwet (as vanfigs is about 180km or more north of me), the Main Crop of most varieties rarely ripens except in abnormally warm years.  USDA Zones are only measures of Winter low temperatures and have nothing to do with whether Figs will ripen or not.  The Fig shown in this post isn't in the Desert King group.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob

Subject: Breba formation? Replies: 17
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 858
 
Picture is worth 1,000 words!

Some times in warmer years here in Seattle next year's Brebas already show as tiny bumps on this year's wood but in cooler years those bumps may not be visible until next Spring.  We are having a much warmer than normal year in 2016 so we are getting some Main Crop Figs starting to ripen.

Desert King double buds above leaf petiole on current wood.  One bud may be for vegetative growth rather than next year's Brebas.
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Desert King Main Crop Fig (won't ripen due to no Fig Wasps here, and wouldn't ripen even if we had the Fig Wasps due to lack of heat so I pick them off when the tree goes dormant as they will mummify and get moldy over Winter), and bump for next year's Breba above next leaf petiole.
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Gillette caprifig with extremely rare late Fig that won't ripen due to lack of heat (so I will remove it during dormancy this Winter), and bump that should be for next year's Profichi Crop at lower leaf petiole.
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Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: Seattle Fruit Show, Saturday October 8, 2016 Replies: 5
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 135
 
Fig Friends,

Seattle Tree Fruit Society will be having a Fruit Show as part of the October 8 STFS Meeting.  The Meeting will be held at the "Brig" at Magnuson Park in Seattle from 10:00am-Noon.  It is open to the Public.

Since we are having a warmer than normal growing season this year, some Fig varieties that don't normally ripen their Main Crop might surprise us with a few Figs next month.  If you live in the Puget Sound Region and any of your Figs are ready to ripen around October 8, please consider coming to the Fruit Show and bring a few ripe (or near-ripe) samples along with a leaf of the dominant shape for those varieties to exhibit in the display.  Please send me an e-mail and let me know if you can exhibit some Main Crop Figs at the Fruit Show.

I picked my first two Main Crop Lattarulas on Tuesday, 6 more on Wednesday, and 11 on Thursday.  If the Lattarulas last and the critters don't get the Figs, I should have Lattarula and Vashon Violet (aka Brunswick), and possibly one or two more varieties for the display.  Hopefully other local F4F Members will be able to add to the display.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob

Subject: Is Gene's Vashon Violet the same as Brunswick? Replies: 4
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Dave,

NO!  Ben mistakenly added the word "Violet" to "Gene's Vashon" (which is an unknown variety).  "Vashon Violet" is a "Brunswick".  In 2014 I started calling "Gene's Vashon" by the name "Quartermaster" but no matter what we name a Fig variety, there will always be confusion.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob

Subject: Beall Fig Cuttings for you? Replies: 9
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Mario,

You might want to verify if you really have Beall as your leaves don't match those on the F4F Variety page and look nothing like what I have in my collection as "Beall".  Can you post photos of the fruit and identify if they are Breba or Main crop?

kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Mail cuttings from Italy ?? Replies: 13
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Best to get Fig trees from Bass (a Forum Member in PA).  See his "Trees of Joy" website.

If your relative sends you cuttings, they will need to get a Phytosanitary Certificate to mail them to the USA, and there may be a quarantine period of up to two years where you will have no access to the material!  If you try to go around the Import restrictions, you will be visited by a USDA Inspector who will confiscate the material and destroy it, all for good cause to avoid unwittingly introducing pests or diseases.

kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Is this Pied de Boeuf? Replies: 2
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Subject: Is this Pied de Boeuf? Replies: 2
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 129
 
Does anyone have good photos of Pied de Boeuf Brebas & leaves?

I was given a tree in a gallon pot in 2012 that ripened its first and only Breba on August 16.  This is a composite photo of the Breba with a typical 5-lobed leaf (there are also 3-lobed leaves), laying on a 12" x 12" Travertine tile floor (this image is about 14" square):

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The typical leaf is huge, much larger than any other variety in my collection so it is too big to fit on the single 12" x 12" stone tile that I use for all of the Fig/leaf photos posted on my website.

This is what Ira Condit said in 1955 about Pied de Boeuf in "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" (downloadable as a PDF from my website):

"Pied de Boeuf. Described by La Brousse (1774), Hogg (1866), Barron (1891), and Eisen (1888, 1901). La Brousse gave a disparaging opinion of the fresh-fruit qualities of Pied de Boeuf, but found it very good dried at Antibes, France. The other descriptions leave one in doubt as to the specific crop, but it is probable that both Hogg and Barron have considered the breba crop only, as a second crop of figs is not commonly produced in England. The slight attention given to this variety by horticultural writers is likely due to the fact that second-crop figs mostly drop unless caprification-is practiced. The late Leroy Nickel, of Menlo Park, California, obtained cuttings of Pied de Boeuf from England, and donated wood for the Riverside collection in 1927. Since that time it has proved to be a promising variety for fresh fruit brebas and for caprified figs of the main crop. Its behavior at Riverside has been better than in the cooler climate of Los Angeles. Tree and fruit characters are very much like those of Drap d’Or, but the two are regarded in this publication as distinct varieties.

Pied de Boeuf trees are slow-growing and densely branched, with terminal buds green in color. Leaves medium, somewhat glossy above, mostly 5-lobed, the middle lobe broadly spatulate; upper sinuses of medium depth and width, lower sinuses shallow, basal sinuses narrow; base cordate; margins coarsely crenate. The following description is based on notes made of figs produced during fourteen fruiting seasons.

Breba crop fair to good; figs oblique-pyriform; size large, up to 2-1/4 inches in diameter and 3-1/2 inches in length; average weight 79 grams; neck prominent, often curved, and up to 1 inch long; stalk slender, 1/2 to 1 inch long; ribs very prominent, the surface of the fruit therefore corrugated; eye above medium, scales rose to violetbrown; skin tender, waxy or glossy in appearance, with bloom fairly prominent; white flecks scattered, more or less concealed by body coloration; color Hessian brown, shading to green or light brown on neck; meat white, tinged with pink; pulp light strawberry, slightly hollow at the center, texture rather coarse; quality good. Excellent in appearance, but not well adapted to fresh-fruit shipping on account of tender skin and ribbed surface. (Plate 23, A.)

Second-crop caprified figs oblique-pyriform, above medium to large, up to 2 inches broad and 3 inches long; neck short and thick, or up to 1 inch long; average weight 63 grams; stalk slender, often curved, up to 1 inch long, sometimes enlarged or swollen toward the apex; ribs elevated, prominent; white flecks scattered, fairly conspicuous; eye large, open, scales violet; skin somewhat glossy, tender checking at maturity; color chocolate brown to mahogany red, attractive; meat white; pulp dark strawberry; flavor rich and sweet; quality excellent.

Uncaprified figs light in weight; center hollow; pulp amber; quality poor. (Plates 9; 14, C). See also Condit (1941a, fig. 2, R)."


I question if my tree is really Pied de Boeuf as the leaves are huge rather than medium in size, pubescent rather than somewhat glossy above, the middle lobe isn't quite "broadly spatulate" compared to spatulate as I have seen it defined in other Fig publications, and there is NO "bloom" at all on the Fig unlike all the Pied de Boeuf Fig photos I have seen on this Forum.  The light areas on the whole Fig at upper right are reflections from the glossy skin, not "bloom".

If you have good photos of Pied de Boeuf Brebas & leaves, please post them.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

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Subject: Visitors Welcome and ... Replies: 1
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Since my Breba crop is just a few days from ending this year, I want to extend an invitation for Seattle area Forum Members to come over for a Fig Tasting around 7:15pm tonight or tomorrow, so if you are interested please send me an e-mail before 5pm or call if you have my phone number.  Perhaps a Fig Pizza after the Tasting at the local Flying Squirrel Pizza Parlor?

While out picking this morning, I had two welcome visitors and caught this one on my camera :)

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A female Anna's Hummingbird :)


Since picking last night I was also visited by another guest who left this for me:

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I think the hole all the way through this Desert King is in case a quick exit was necessary ;)


Can't win them all!   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: Today's picks Replies: 11
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August 11 picks but I had to discard about 12 Gillette and 3 Desert Kings due to bird pecking:
Top half greens = Gillette, bottom half l to r; 3 Violetta, a malformed Petit Negri with Desert King below, 2 Vashon Violet (Brunswick).
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Anyone in the Seattle area interested in doing a Taste Test by next Monday please send me an e-mail.  Profichi & Breba season should be over by next Wednesday!

Enjoy,   kiwibob


Subject: Today's picks Replies: 11
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 412
 
alanmercieca,

Gillette = Croisic.  I live in Seattle where Mamme & Mammoni Caprifigs rarely if ever form and never ripen.  Don't know about the stalks as I don't require that kind of "high fiber" diet ;)


August 8 picks:
Medium colored top = Tilbury's Turkey, 3 below middle = Vashon Violet (Brunswick), 2 at bottom = Violetta, darker greens in top half = Desert King, lighter greens in bottom half = Gillette.
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August 9 picks:
Light greens left half = Gillette, top medium colored = Vashon Violet (Brunswick), darker greens right half = Desert King, bottom medium colored = Violetta.
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August 10 picks shared with F4F Member Seattle Purple this afternoon:
Top light green = Gillette, middle row l to r; Violetta, Vashon Violet (Brunswick), 3 Tilbury's Turkey, bottom 2 dark green = Desert King, right medium colored with curved neck = Dan's Favorite.
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Sliced Figs in same order as above with one Tilbury's Turkey missing.  Note the white meat near the Gillette eye isn't ripe yet but translucent white meat above is ripe.  This is typical of how Gillette ripens.
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All are Brebas except Gillette are Profichi's.

Drooling allowed ;)   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: Today's picks Replies: 11
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 412
 
Pino,

No, our Temperate Maritime climate here in the Pacific Northwet doesn't help the Breba Crop although it may affect Gillette's Profichi Crop.  What you see as an abundance of Brebas is the result of selecting Varieties that tend to produce a good Breba Crop.  We do that and prune to encourage Breba production because we don't get enough heat during the growing season to ripen the Main Crop in most years!  Most of the Main Crop Figs shown on my website with the exception of Lattarula (which often ripens some of the Main Crop most years) are the result of unusually hot years here!

These are my August 6 picks with Gillette at lower left, Desert King at lower right and with the medium colored Figs:
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Here are the photos of yesterday's Fig Tasting with Chryssa.
Top row l to r: 2 Violetta, 2 Chryssa's Unknown
Middle row l to r: Dan's Favorite, 2 Vashon Violet (Brunswick), Vancouver, Walla Walla (Brunswick)
Bottom row l to r: Gillette (not quite ripe), Tilbury's Turkey (not properly developed, small and not as ripe as it should be), 2 Desert King
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Sliced Figs in same order as above.  Note that if Gillette was fully ripe, the white meat near the eye would be translucent like the meat in the upper part of the Fig:
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Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: Disappointing Crop Please Advise Replies: 17
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Chryssa,

Thanks for stopping by yesterday, having a great Fig Tasting, and enduring my "Fig education class".  On your next visit, we will do the "Kiwi education class" and taste any Figs remaining then.

This is a Breba Fig/Leaf photo of Chryssa's Unknown for anyone on the Forum to try to identify:
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It isn't Vashon Violet (Brunswick) as Jon thought it might possibly be, completely different leaf shape and interior color.

Photos from the Fig Tasting can be found on my Today's Picks post.

Enjoy,   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: Disappointing Crop Please Advise Replies: 17
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 552
 
Harpmama,

Welcome to the Forum.

I just sent you an e-mail.  If you can stop by my place in NE Seattle today or early this week, I'll be happy to have you taste-test the Figs that are ripe and give you plants of Desert King and other suitable varieties.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Today's picks Replies: 11
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August 3, 2016 pickings on a 30.5 x 30.5 cm stone tile (12" x12"), all are Brebas except Gillette which is Profichi:  top row all Desert King;  middle row l-r: Vancouver, 2 Vashon Violet (Brunswick) the large one at center weighs about 105g, Tilbury's Turkey (pecked), Walla Walla (most likely Brunswick);  bottom row(s) all Gillette.

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So far I'm ahead of the critter wars with the exception of Lattarula which is done with its Brebas for the year thanks mostly to the Raccoons.  Protecting some of the Figs has been by plastic "clamshells", and sealable plastic bags (not good due to moisture retention!) when I ran out of the clamshells.

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I can't eat all the Figs so any Forum Members in the Seattle area that want to join a Fig tasting, 7pm Thursday August 4 at my place, please send me an e-mail (no PM's) for directions.

Good Eats,   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: Today's picks Replies: 11
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More pickings from the last two days, all are Breba Crop except Gillette is Profichi Crop:

August 1, 2016:  clockwise from top; 11 Gillette, Vashon Violet (Brunswick), 2 Desert King, Lattarula, Negronne.

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August 2, 2016:  clockwise from top; 2 Vancouver, 2 Negronne, all green figs are Gillette, 4 Vashon Violet (Brunswick) at bottom.

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Served at last night's Block Party:  clockwise from top; Gillette, Desert King slices with strawberry colored pulp, Lattarula slices with honey colored pulp, 5 slices of Vashon Violet (Brunswick), 3 slices of Negronne, 3 slices of Vancouver at left.

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Enjoy,   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: O.T. Possible Kiwifruit plant disease AYLS Replies: 6
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I added the photos to my initial post July 31, 2016.  Again, if you grow any of the Actinidia species, please take the time to visit the AYLS Blog/Site:  http://kiwifruitayls.wordpress.com  and file a Report on the form available on the Site.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Dark vs. light - figs that is Replies: 20
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Quote:
Is it true the lighter figs are less prone to critters?


Complete myth!

Starling damage on Gillette in August 2010
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Raccoons stripped ALL unripe Brebas from this Lattarula limb night of July 20, 2016
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Happy Growing & dispense with the Myths!,   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: Today's picks Replies: 11
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Top row L-R:  Seattle Purple Unknown, Gene's Vashon, 2 Marlow.  Bottom row: 3 Lattarula.
All are of Breba Crop on a 30.5cm x 30.5cm (12"x12") stone tile.

I found it interesting that both Gene's Vashon & Marlow have an "oblique pyriform" shape but the eyes are oblique in opposite directions!

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle
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Subject: O.T. Possible Kiwifruit plant disease AYLS Replies: 6
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 142
 
Tyler,

Thanks for bumping this post.  Unfortunately your info that you filled out on the Blog never made it to me.

Many, many more Reports are still needed so I hope everyone on this Forum who grows Actinidia vines, especially Hardy Kiwifruit will take the time to Report via the form at:  http://kiwifruitayls.wordpress.com

Thanks,   kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: O.T. Possible Kiwifruit plant disease AYLS Replies: 6
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Subject: O.T. Possible Kiwifruit plant disease AYLS Replies: 6
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All Forum Members and Visitors,

If you grow Kiwis, especially Hardy Kiwis, please visit the AYLS Blog/Site:  http://kiwifruitayls.wordpress.com
and fill out a Report form.  A few Reports have been trickling in recently but we really need to know where AYLS is ABSENT as well as PRESENT to assist in finding the cause!

Your cooperation is much appreciated.

kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: USDA Zone Replies: 15
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Axel,

I obtained the Brunswick (which I call Vashon Violet) cutting in August 1997 and rooted it, planted it in the ground in 2001, and got my first Breba in August 2003.  It isn't a very productive tree for quantity of Brebas but their size (my largest so far was 190 grams) and flavor here in Seattle make up for the lack of quantity.

kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Brogiotto Bianco NOT pics Replies: 8
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Ira Condit lists Moscatel Preto as a Common Type Fig not needing Caprification:

Moscatel Preto (syn. Bêbera). Described and illustrated by Bobone (1932). Known as
Moscatel Preto at Coimbra, and Bêbera at Cacela and on the island of Madeira.
The tree produces two crops. Mello Leotte (1901), on the other hand, described
Bêbera as a variety which does not produce a first crop, and the second crop as
requiring caprification.
Brebas oblique-pyriform, sometimes much elongated; neck thick; stalk short; color
violet-black; pulp dark carmine, streaked with violet; flavor sweet and agreeable.
Second-crop figs pyriform, elongated specimens unusual in having the internal cavity
narrowed at the base rather than rounded; stalk short; color green toward the stalk,
violet on the body; surface smooth, puberulent; pulp carmine; texture fine; quality
good.

Download the PDF of Condit's "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" from my website.  It should be required reading for everybody on this Forum!

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Re Kadota Fig Tree Replies: 24
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Pacifica,

In my opinion, Kadota shouldn't be grown north of Oregon if not north of California as it needs more heat than we get in the Pacific Northwet!  Paully might have another opinion relative to your climate.

kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: O.T. Possible Kiwifruit plant disease AYLS Replies: 6
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Subject: USDA Zone Replies: 15
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 274
 
Axel,

Figs are deciduous and need to be allowed to go dormant over the Winter.

Find your location on one of the Hardiness Zone maps and that will give you some guidance whether you will need to protect your trees from Winter freeze-out or if your Climate is OK to go without Winter protection.

Brunswick produces the largest, best tasting Brebas in my collection of over 30 varieties here in Seattle when they ripen properly.  Gorgi tells me that in New Jersey the Brunswick Brebas aren't fit for birds to eat, which is apparently a response to his humid climate during the growing season!  During the 15 years since I planted Brunswick in the ground, it has only ripened 4 Main Crop Figs (in 2014) due to our lack of heat during the growing season.  Most varieties in my collection don't ripen their Main Crop here in a normal year.

kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Is this a brown turkey fig? Replies: 10
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 179
 
Read Ira Condit's "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" (available as a downloadable PDF on my website).  Those spots are what he calls "white flecks" and occur on many, many Varieties!

The PDF should be mandatory reading for everyone on this Forum.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: O.T. Possible Kiwifruit plant disease AYLS Replies: 6
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 142
 
Actinidia Friends,

I recently posted some new photos and an update on the AYLS (Actinidia Yellow Leaf Spot) Blog/Site.

Reports thus far in July from France and British Columbia, Canada have shown that AYLS is PRESENT in more locations than previously acknowledged.  If you grow any of the Actinidia species, please look carefully at your plants and file a Report using the Form on the AYLS Blog/Site:  http://kiwifruitayls.wordpress.com

Actinidia arguta with AYLS, Mason County, Washington.  Added to this post July 31, 2016

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Actinidia arguta with AYLS, Whatcom County, Washington.  Added to this post July 31, 2016

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If you grow Kiwifruit or any of the other Actinidia species (especially Hardy Kiwis where AYLS shows best), there are three things you can do to help find the cause:

1.  Visit the Blog/Site  http://kiwifruitayls.wordpress.com  and sign up to "Follow" it so you get automatic e-mail notification of new posts (only two thus far this year).
2.  Let all of your Actinidia growing friends know about the Blog/Site so we reach out beyond my own Kiwifruit contacts list.
3.  If you belong to NAFEX, CRFG, Home Orchard Society, or any other Fruit Growing Organization, write a quick note or article for publication in their Newsletter or on their Bulletin Board to increase knowledge and awareness about AYLS.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob

Please DO NOT reply to this post so we don't clutter the Figs 4 Fun Forum.  I will "bump" this post periodically.


Subject: USDA Zone Replies: 15
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Try this link:   http://www.houzz.com/europeZoneFinder  or an Internet search for USDA Hardiness zones in Europe.  Also check with the other German members on this forum including Feigenbaum.

Here in Seattle, the USDA Zone is irrelevant as our problem isn't Winter Hardiness but lack of heat during the growing season.  Brunswick is probably the most Winter freeze tolerant variety I grow.

kiwibob, Seattle WA

Subject: Dan's Favorite breba Replies: 10
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Quote:
So what we have is

Dan's Favorite = Denny's Delight = Dan's Pride = Madeleine des Deux Saisons


Greenfig,

I have my doubts about the claim that anything but Dan's Favorite = Dan's Pride!  With both a green and a brown version of Danny's Delight (Danny's Delite), and different descriptions of Madeleine & Madeleine des Deux Saisons by Condit and on the web respectively, there is nothing to substantiate the claim they are the same as Dan's Favorite.  In Malli's genetic testing of the UC Davis - Wolfskill collection (see FigLink1110 http://www.figs4fun.com/Links/FigLink1110.pdf ) there is no reference to Madeleine or Madeleine des Deux Saisons being in the collection.

Picture is worth 1,000 words.  It's time for people with any of these Figs in their collection to provide some photographs of whole & sliced Brebas or Main Crop Figs with a leaf of the dominant leaf pattern so we can see if there is any validity to the claims.  Please note with your photographs if you are showing the Breba or the Main Crop.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle


Subject: Fig ID Replies: 4
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Definitely not Olympian!

Based on the leaf it might be Neveralla or Beall (or another of many varieties with similar leaf shape).  Read Condit's written descriptions of Figs with that color of skin in "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" (available as a downloadable PDF from my website) and see if you can match your Fig to any of his descriptions.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

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Subject: Zone 5-7a breba figs Replies: 11
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Breba production is NOT a function of pinching Main Crop figs off of San Pedro or any other type of Fig!  The tree either naturally produces an abundant Breba Crop or it doesn't.

Desert King is known worldwide for its Breba Crop.

Here in Seattle the only Fig that produces more than Desert King is the Caprifig "Gillette" (aka Croisic) in its Profichi Crop.

Brunswick produces few Brebas but their size and "figgy" flavor (here in Seattle, but I'm told Brunswick Brebas aren't fit for birds to eat in New Jersey due to their climate while ripening) make up for lack of quantity.  Brunswick is also one of the most Cold Hardy Figs.

Negronne (aka Violette de Bordeaux) produces a moderate Breba Crop.

Olympian (a variety found in Olympia Washington) appears to be very promising for Breba Production based on the past two years in a pot and the quantity of Brebas currently forming for 2016.

"Dan's Favorite" and "Gene's Vashon" (possibly the same variety) both produce moderate Breba Crops of very good tasting Figs.

None of the other varieties in my collection (over 30, mostly in pots, many which have not yet produced any Figs) do any more than a Moderate Breba Crop.

Celeste is effectively Unifera in Seattle.

Best to look at Ira Condit's "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" (available as a downloadable PDF from my website) and read his descriptions of crop production and rule out any Varieties he says produce few or no Brebas.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob Seattle
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Subject: Pro-Mix HP vs Sunshine Sphagnum Peat Moss Replies: 10
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For what it's worth, my experience with ProMix vs. Sunshine for rooting Figs is I used ProMix until they started adding a fungicide to the mix at which time my rooting success went way down.  Mycorrhiza is a fungus that is necessary to initiate rooting and my opinion is the ProMix fungicide may inhibit Mycorrhiza.  I switched to Sunshine #1 which is a peat & perlite mix and my Fig rooting success went back up to the level I was used to with the old version of pre-fungicide ProMix.  Depending on your particular rooting technique, you may experience different results than I have had with these two mixes.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

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Subject: Danny's Delight *Requesting Pics* Replies: 15
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 344
 
In response to Greenfig's question:

"Is the Danny's Delight and Dan's Favorite the same fig?
They look the same and loosely have the same name.

I really liked it. It is not a pretty fig but doesn't split and tastes good."


The answer to that question is ABSOLUTELY NO!  Dan's Favorite is from Dan Ackerman at Brinnon on Hood Canal in western Washington.  Danny's Delight (Delite) is from somewhere in the upper midwest and named after a different Danny.  To the best of my knowledge, these two varieties don't look even similar to each other.  See my website:  https://sites.google.com/site/kiwifruitsalad2
page F3.1 for a photo of Dan's Favorite Breba, and page F6.1 for a Breba on the tree.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Updating my website, Fig input wanted Replies: 7
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I made the decision over the weekend to go with 9/page and have since deleted the page with 6/.  The objective is to convey the most comparative information with the greatest ease, thus 9/page so folks don't have to scroll!

I'm still working on the website revisions and will be for several days at least, but I'm not happy with the results.  Initially my goal was to reconstruct the site so it could be downloaded as a PDF but Google Sites works such that I can't see the entire page width when I "print as a PDF".  My alternate site on Wordpress now has a gallery function (which it didn't have when the site was created) where multiple photos can be assembled.  I'll try updating that site in the near future to see if my goal works on it.

kiwibob   Seattle

Subject: Updating my website, Fig input wanted Replies: 7
Posted By: kiwibob Views: 321
 
The purpose of my original post was to solicit feedback about which layout of the Fig photos is most informative, the 9/page or 6/page.  I'm still looking for that feedback!

jdsfrance,  Condit lists "Dauphine" as a San Pedro type Fig with description starting on page 365 in his "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" which is downloadable as a PDF from my website.  Condit describes the leaves as being 3-5 lobed and coarsely crenate.  My Dauphine came to me second-hand from a F4F member whose original source is UC Davis.  The leaf came from a very immature tree shown on page F6.2 FIGS ON THE TREE so it probably isn't the dominant leaf form one would find on a mature tree.  As always, I question the accuracy of varietal names and in this case the Breba shown doesn't match photos I have seen of "Dauphine".  Time will hopefully resolve my skepticism but it is encouraging that the Main crop "Dauphine" that started forming this year on the tree shown on page F6.2 has aborted along with two more on a similar sized clone.

Michael,  Got your e-mail and I'm still working on my website revisions.  I hope that planned changes will answer most of your questions.

kiwibob   Seattle

Subject: Updating my website, Fig input wanted Replies: 7
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I'm updating my primary website and want to know F4F Member preferences for the layout of the Fig Variety pages.  The question is should I use the layout on page F3.1 or F3.2 MEDIUM COLORED FIGS with 9/page or 6/page respectively?  My inclination is to use the 9/page layout as it allows more varieties to be visually compared on a single page.  All photos may be viewed individually at a larger size for detail scrutiny by clicking on the photo.

Please check out those two pages and if you have a strong opinion of which is better, send me an e-mail telling why you prefer one over the other.  Don't reply to this thread so we don't overload the Forum with chatter.

http://sites.google.com/site/kiwifruitsalad2

Happy Growing,   kiwibob  Seattle

Subject: Sharing a few Figs Replies: 4
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Yes, some Caprifigs are edible including Gillette.  It must be fully ripe or it tastes like rubber.  When fully ripe (the meat must be translucent instead of white) it has a sweet marshmallow flavor and lots of seed crunch.  The one shown in both photos is about a day or two shy of being fully ripe!

Other Caprifigs are apparently too dry to be palatable, a function of keeping the pollen dry enough to be transferred to other Figs by the Fig Wasp.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob

Subject: Sharing a few Figs Replies: 4
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Slavi stopped by today and we shared a few Figs.  In both photos they are left to right, top row:  Bajtra Bajda, Peter's Honey.  Middle row:  Negronne, Vashon Violet (aka Brunswick), Olympian, Gene's Vashon.  Bottom row:  Gillette, Desert King.  All are Brebas but Gillette which is a Profichi Caprifig.  The stone tile background is 30.5 cm x 30.5 cm (12" x 12").

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Most of these Figs were picked a day too soon to avoid critter predation so they were not at their peak of ripeness and flavor.

Enjoy :)   kiwibob, Seattle

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Subject: Fig Sources For The PNW Replies: 11
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Try my website: http://sites.google.com/site/kiwifruitsalad2

Get connected with the other Figs4Fun Members in the Pacific Northwet!

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

Subject: Sky Nursery Sale - For WA Growers Replies: 1
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Sorry to hear you got trees at the sale!  Chicago Hardy, Petit Negri, Brown Turkey, and Peter's Honey have no business whatsoever being sold in the Puget Sound Region.  If you didn't mean Petit Negri but meant "Negronne" instead, the latter is OK (but there isn't a Petit Negronne variety).

Look & learn before you leap.

kiwibob, Seattle

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Subject: Food for thought Replies: 2
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Saw this sandwich in the Deli case yesterday and gave it a try :)  Lots of Ham and Potato Torpedo Roll but it needed more of all the other ingredients, especially the Jam!

kiwibob, Seattle

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Subject: OT Anyone growing Kiwi Berries? Replies: 16
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Aaron,

Try Edible Landscaping of Afton Virginia, One Green World of Molalla & Portland Oregon, or Raintree Nursery of Morton Washington.  All do mail-order and have websites.  Hardy Kiwis (Actinidia arguta) are easy to grow if you start right before planting, build your trellis stout, and don't plant them in full sun!  They can take 3-9 years before first bloom with each sex having a mind of its own.  Patience is key!

Unlike it is advertised, Issai probably isn't self-fertile.  Don't waste your time with it.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob, Seattle

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