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Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: tyro Views: 28,746
 
Ajarn,

<Some will agree I have a point.>

Or a couple.<G>But lately you've wandered into "flogging a dead horse"
territory.You've made your case,leave it in peace.

Subject: Have a few cuttings available Replies: 14
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Hi Igor,

I'll take 2 of the Ohra if they're still available.

Thanks.

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: tyro Views: 28,746
 
Mark,

James has used this forum as his primary marketing tool,having done so he is open
to criticism from anyone on the forum.You don't have to buy a ticket.

I have watched this offering morph so many times,it's hard to keep it straight.From
"I'll grow you a plant for less than cutting cost" to "About those plant's?Sorry,I'll have to
air layer them from the cuttings I just grew".......Good luck with that,you'd need bottom heat
at 75 F with 16 hours of artificial lighting.

All of this taking place on the cold,hard,Kansas plains
under plastic.One would have to suspend disbelief not to have serious doubts.

Ajarn has merely made a compilation of James' failed promises and pointed out he's
still selling 2017 future's while he's failed to deliver on the 2016 contracts.Yes,
he's grabbed it by the neck and given it a couple of shakes but nothing that I see is false.

Wills was correct on denying this offering on OF,you only need to read the last
couple of pages in this thread to know why.





 

Subject: Greenhorn intro Replies: 29
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Mike,

Welcome to the forum.If you're willing to pick up shipping charges PM me.

Subject: New Year's Day "Ripe" Figs Replies: 4
Posted By: tyro Views: 159
 
Mara,

Take good care of that Strawbery Verte!In our climate,flavor wise,it's a green Preto.
Up pot it,plant it in ground,whatever you need to do.I can never get quality photo's
of multiple fruits because the wife and her friends raid the tree's at the daily coffee
klatch.

Subject: California Rare Fruit Scion Exchange Replies: 22
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Yes,I've Orange County,L.A., and Foothills on my calendar at the moment.
Probably hit Central Coast as well.

Subject: California Rare Fruit Scion Exchange Replies: 22
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You have to view these as a military operation.First,you have your list of objectives.
Secondly,you reconnoiter the tables prior to the exchange starting,identifying the locations
of your desired scion,primary,secondary,and tertiary targets.You return to your seat and
with your sharpie label your tape so there's no dillydallying when the exchange starts.Then
you plot your approach to said scion,perhaps changing seats if a particular scion is in scarce supply.
And you wait,making idle chit chat with one eye on the President of the chapter who will signal the
release of the hounds.

All attempts at humor aside,the grocery bags/baggies are labeled the scion is not.A lot of this stuff
comes off the tree the morning of the exchange.The chances of you being able to talk with the
individual who brought the scion while the plunder is taking place is slim.If you arrive early the chances
are better.Everyone's pretty much available after they've gone around the tables once.Kid's in a candy
store.

Subject: California Rare Fruit Scion Exchange Replies: 22
Posted By: tyro Views: 510
 
Aaron,

Here's a link to the rules,

https://www.crfg.org/2016%20Scion%20Exchanges.html

You'd have to narrow it down to which chapter's exchange you'd
want to visit.They try to space them out,it's not uncommon to try
to attend 3-4 over the course of a month.

http://www.crfg.org/local.html

There's a number of photo's in the link below just to give you an
idea.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/crfg-scion-exchange-7262449?pid=1285955589

Subject: California Rare Fruit Scion Exchange Replies: 22
Posted By: tyro Views: 510
 
It's open to anyone that shows up.If you want scion and are not a CRFG member there's usually
a small fee (under $10.00) that covers all the scion you take at that location for the day.

Subject: Is it a new scam? Replies: 78
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Sas,

You're dealing with a chimera.It'll morph as conditions require.

Subject: Is it a new scam? Replies: 78
Posted By: tyro Views: 1,606
 
My personal opinion is that we are once again dealing with the abcd/Bernard/garden/Alex complex
attempting a strange retribution for their failing ebay sales.

Subject: R. Sanford Marin on Black Mission Replies: 5
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If that's the Black Mission NL that Jon was distributing it's a very aggressive growth here in SoCa.
It fruited on first year wood but I removed it due to excessive pruning requirements and space
limitations.

If you've let that thing run for the last 6 years I think you'll need something larger than loppers.<G>

Subject: I made a mistake on shipping cuttings... Replies: 15
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Nice cuttings Bill,and yeah,postage due stamped on the envelope.

Subject: Preto 2016 Replies: 4
Posted By: tyro Views: 212
 
Looks really nice Don.Preto is such a tease,as you noted it hangs a wild amount of fruit.
Even here,an interior So.Ca.valley,alleged fig heaven,only 50% of the fruit ripens.I've taken
to thinning the existing fruit set in late July and then removing most of the fruit that forms after that.

Subject: Figo Preto Replies: 7
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Hi Ajarn,

Yeah,Benji's been busy.She cleaned me out of #15's and bought over 20 in #1's.
i guess we'll find out how these do in Thailand soon.

For best growth,remove as much spaq from that rootball as possible.

Subject: Figo Preto Replies: 70
Posted By: tyro Views: 2,316
 
Geez Sid,really nice looking fruit.Particularly that one at 02:30.Very thin pulp yet
luscious interior,no way I could bring that in with my climate.

Subject: Figo Preto Replies: 70
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Conrad,birds have not been a major issue for me.The Metallic Green Fig Beetle does more damage to the fruit than birds,rats,possum,raccoons combined.

https://www.google.com/search?q=metallic+green+fig+beetle&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwja2t7ztMXPAhUs2oMKHW63DQkQsAQIaw&biw=1280&bih=884

Thanks Dom.

Subject: Figo Preto Replies: 70
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Preto's a rust magnet,I'm probably going to start spraying them next year.I'm in the process of removing all leaf and putting them to sleep,
I probably pulled 5 gallons of greenish fruit for the worms in the last couple of days.I've left the figs that should ripen on the tree's but the
raccoons usually add injury to insult,all the ripening fruit is out on the tips,their weight breaks the branches.

Subject: OT,Dragonfruit Replies: 6
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@JD,it's whats for dessert,no bread required.<G>

@Tony,it's really quite a treat to wander around that 1/2 acre he's planted out.
Some of those fruits are best approached with caution,see photo six and below.

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Others are far more approachable.

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@Dan,Edgar's been crossing these guy's for many years.I don't think he knows how many
varieties he has back there.I tried 7-8 varieties and took notes for the first four,after that I lost discipline and just gobbled what ever was presented.

Jorge....very pleasant,delicate flavor,much better than store bought.
Edgar....this had the most acid so was bolder in flavor.
Tricia...No acid,very sweet.(named after his daughter,<G>)
Asunda..light and delicate with a dash of cinnamon.

@Ben,beyond amazing.His property is basically a low,triple canopy food forest.More thicket than forest.

Tomorrow,UCD will be hosting an all day event at 2 locations in Santa Paula that is open to the Public,Cost is $40.00 at the door.Free cuttings,lunch,fruit and pitahaya ice cream.

2016 Pitahaya/Dragon Fruit Field Day
Friday - September 16, 2016
Registration 7 a.m. – 8 a.m. at MVP Farms
MVP Farms - Off Highway 126, Fillmore, CA
3095 West Telegraph Road, Fillmore, CA 93015, and
Hansen Agricultural Research and Extension Center - Santa Paula, CA
14292 West Telegraph Road, Santa Paula, CA 93060

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Subject: OT,Dragonfruit Replies: 6
Posted By: tyro Views: 107
 
Edgar's over run by dragon fruit and I'm over run by figs,what to do?
Trade time.From 12:00,clockwise.
Jorge?
Edgar
Tricia
Asunda
Pink Panther

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Just for scale.Edgar's west facing walls.

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North facing wall.

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Subject: Semi Dwarf Figs??? Replies: 9
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All my in ground trees are 8' or under with a wing span of 12'-18'.I've more figs than I can handle with only 4 in ground....How many more than I can handle?
6 years in this is what the orchard floor under the Vista looks like today.I really should get out there and clean that mess up.Maybe.... manana?<G>


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So yeah,the 8' thing will work.<G>

Subject: "Stroz" Fig Replies: 21
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Thanks for the report on that.I've a couple going but it'll be next year before they fruit.

Subject: Figo Preto Replies: 70
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@ Calvin and Jerry,thanks for the kind words.Water stressing intensifies the flavor and creates a dense fig.
Some people prefer not to eat the skin or pulp,particularly on well hydrated thick skinned figs.In some of the photo's
you can see how thin the pulp is,effectively an external fruit leather.These are the ones I love to freeze,they come out
of the freezer with good texture and intense flavor.Don't try this with a thin skinned fig,they'll just ferment.

@Sid,quite amazing the growth you get out there.As difficult as these are to root clearly your skill set is a factor.
I've given up and just start air layering them at first flush through June.I'm very interested in seeing the fruit you
pull off those tree's and if they match the size from your initial source.FMV is there,it's just way,way in the background.

@tsparozi,it's generally agreed by those who are growing Preto and BM side by side,equal age and conditions they are the
same.A distinction without a difference.The degree of FMV load present can mask that.

@jaime,I don't know what to tell you.As you've noted the leaf pattern is completely different.My BM and Preto are mostly spade and tri.

Subject: Figo Preto Replies: 70
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The tree is in 6th leaf now,I get some 5 lobes but they're few and far between,more an anomaly.

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Subject: Figo Preto Replies: 70
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Thanks veggie girl.

Jamie,everythings starting to look a little "ratty" out there about now.The in ground Preto has been water stressed for months.

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Thanks Jd,here's a plate that has a combo of water stressed figs from the inground tree (top)
and some more hydrated ones (bottom) from the #15 pots.The skin on the water stressed stuff is much thinner and the figs have shriveled.Very dense texture and intense flavor on those.The more hydrated ones are refreshing but lack the wow factor,both visually and taste wise.


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Cheers

Subject: Figo Preto Replies: 70
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Glad to hear the Preto's doing well for you Sas.If you can manage it try to let a couple dry down on the tree,
the exterior will harden up giving you the crunch of a fruit leather while the interior will have a creamy berry
taste.

A couple of pic's from the ongoing season.

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Subject: My 2016 season figs Replies: 56
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Nice photo's Sid.Looks like the fruit is coming in much larger there as opposed to the mainland.
Most of my Preto's are coming in at 37-45 grams.

Subject: (not for the faint of heart) Fig problem Replies: 19
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Any plant that's spent over a year in it's container need's to be watered once a day this time of year.Pouring gallons of water once a week into a root bound plant doesn't work,better a gallon a day.I've several that are looking similar,should have root pruned them early this year.Try placing the pots in a tray with 1" of standing water.

Subject: my fig is turning to yellow ! Replies: 20
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If you're not root bound your feeder roots are probably well outside the pots circumference,are you watering the pot only?You might want to think about
irrigating 12"-18" away from the outside of the pot.

Subject: Pine Bark Fines in San Diego County? Replies: 9
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Most of the bark you're going to find in Ca. is going to be fir.It works fine.
Home Depot has Earthgro,2 cu. ft Groundcover bark,item 88352185,stay away from
the "Color Enhanced" stuff.Make sure it's the smaller sized bark.

The best stuff I've found is the small "Orchid Bark" from Crop Production Services,
but that gets pricey.

Subject: What must I do re air layering ? Replies: 6
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A photo would help.Size matters in terms of how to handle these.

Absent that,assess root to top growth.
Remove excess top growth/leaf while still associated with tree.
Let it callus and then remove from tree.
If possible place it in a humidity bin for 3-5 days.
Shade and misting as required gradually moving into dappled light.

Subject: Vista Breba Replies: 3
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Hi Jerry,

I've never actually seen a wasp here.My seeds sink,I've got Zidi fruiting.Until I actually see one I think my answer would be "Maybe".

Glad to hear the Vista is doing well out there,in retrospect I should have left some of the fruit on when I sent it to you last year.I'm fairly certain it would have ripened.

Subject: Vista Breba Replies: 3
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The birds finally found them so pulled the ones that were sagging today.

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Hardly pruned this guy at all this year,previous years I would cut it back to 6',this year it started off at 8'.When I pruned it heavily it hung 6-8 breba,this year 30 odd.

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Size is pretty good,7 or 8 very large.


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Flavor was good,lacked the intense berry that the main has but quite pleasant.The smallest one had the richest taste. 

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Subject: My 2016 season figs Replies: 56
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That's off the hook,a mutant Preto on the loose.Do the others still hanging look like they're going to size
up that large?

Subject: Preto on Ebay Replies: 5
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Thanks for the vote of confidence guys,appreciate it.

Funny thing,I let ebay decide where to place these guy's
and they wound up under "Other Plants and Seedlings"
instead of under "Tree's".They never showed up in the Fig
category.It was only when Don brought it to my attention
that I realized my error.

Sid,the growth you get in that fern forest of yours is sick.

Cheers,

Paul

Subject: Pine bark fine substitute Replies: 5
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It should,usually it'll say something like "color enhanced".I think those are usually red or black.

Subject: Shippingfig plants Replies: 4
Posted By: tyro Views: 307
 
Larry,USPS has a Priority Mail Shoe Box that works well for standard #1's.

https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=push&navCount=0&atg.multisite.remap=false&categoryId=free-shipping-supplies&productId=P_0_SHOEBOX

The tri's come from USPS as well.

https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=push&navCount=3&atg.multisite.remap=false&categoryId=shipping-supplies&productId=P_O_1098S

https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=push&navCount=4&atg.multisite.remap=false&categoryId=shipping-supplies&productId=P_O_1098M



If the plant is too tall you might want to check Uline's products.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-18376/Corrugated-Boxes-200-Test/7-x-7-x-14-Tall-Corrugated-Boxes

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-15029/Corrugated-Boxes-200-Test/8-x-8-x-20-Tall-Corrugated-Boxes

Wrong product links on the Uline.Use the long box,not the tall.

http://www.shippingsupply.com/p-465-18-x-8-x-8-long-corrugated-boxes.aspx

Subject: Pine bark fine substitute Replies: 5
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Earth gro is fine as long as they haven't added color to it.On the west coast I suspect most of it's
going to be Douglas fir.I've been running it through my pots for 4 years with no ill effect.

Subject: Q re Harvest Season of Cultivars Replies: 2
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The latest fig for me is MBVS,I've picked good ripe fruit in Dec.
The earliest I've got is Vista breba which should be ready in 3-4 weeks.

Subject: Time to start thinking about airlayers Replies: 10
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Updating on these air layers that were set 3.1 through 3.14.They've all come off the tree,have worked their way through my humidity bins and are now solid in dappled light.

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One of the 3x8's.

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Largest of this run in the #1 root maker on the right.

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These were all girdled as high as possible to stimulate solid downward root growth.

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A plug of spag was placed in the bottom of the container to prevent media loss,Clonex was then applied to the girdle and node above.Media was then added with another plug of spag sealing the top.

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Quite surprised at how quickly these came off the tree.I started pulling them 31 days after they were placed.They worked their way through my humidity bins for varying lengths of time,some took 3 days and others took 10.

Subject: Airlayer has figs! Will they grow when i cut? Replies: 28
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You'll have to reset that one into a larger container Meg.Just remove the existing and reset into at least a
gallon,preferably a #3 or larger.You haven't damaged anything,you'll just have to wait for it to fill the new
container.8-10 weeks.

Subject: Airlayer has figs! Will they grow when i cut? Replies: 28
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Yeah,don't know what you did,but if you hit "direct link" in the upper right corner,that's probably what we want to see.

Subject: Airlayer has figs! Will they grow when i cut? Replies: 28
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Meg,

Run them through here and specify "less than a meg".

http://www.picresize.com/

Subject: Airlayer has figs! Will they grow when i cut? Replies: 28
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4-5 feet?I doubt your root ball is large enough to support that top growth.Post some photo's.

Subject: Airlayer has figs! Will they grow when i cut? Replies: 28
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Meg,

Best practice once you've removed it and potted it,put it in a humidity bin
for a while.Santa Ana's are not your friend.<G>

Subject: Airlayer has figs! Will they grow when i cut? Replies: 28
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@ Simon,
Although you hung the layer 10 weeks ago the clock only starts ticking once it
begins to leaf out.The leaf is providing the rooting energy.For large layers I usually allow
8-10 weeks after first flush.Here's one I placed on 3rd or 4th year wood mid March.
That's a #5 and I expect the pot to be full mid/late May.

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@Meg,
I think you're in SoCa. so you can remove it now.The embryo's should not tax the layer and it should be solid in a #1 within 30 days.By the time the figs become an issue it should be comfortably settling into a #5.You want the layer off the tree and settled in as early in the season as you can.

Subject: Figo Preto "countdown" Replies: 23
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That is a monster.I don't believe I ever weighed one.Here's a photo of my main crop
size.

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In your climate,who knows.Any chance that's a breba?

Subject: Figo Preto "countdown" Replies: 23
Posted By: tyro Views: 579
 
Looks good Sid.A couple of questions.
Did the tree go dormant over the winter?
Did it carry over that fig from last year?
That's second year wood,no?

Subject: Rootmaker 1-gallon round pots Replies: 7
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Retail pricing on the #1's,in bulk.

http://www.amleo.com/root-maker-injection-molded-1-gallon-container-case-of-72/p/RMC1/

Wholesale side from the manufacturer,you need to get creative.

Subject: OT: Soon-To-Be Ex-Wife Hacked My Lime Tree Replies: 13
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The tree's going to want to go vertical so you'll probably want to remove a foot or so of the apical growth.
It'll push water sprouts,you can select which ones you want as new scaffolds and prune out the rest.Once
the water sprouts you've selected get some girth but are still flexible bend them more horizontal and regrow the
lower scaffolds.Good Luck.