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Subject: Hello from MA -- And a Question Replies: 16
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Just wanted to give an update here... as you can see from post #10, my trees weren't doing so well.  Leaves began falling off and it looked like my trees would soon die.  What I did was use some Espoma dolomitic pelletized lime and almost imidiately, the situation stabilized.  That was right before the end of the season, so hopefully things will go well this year! 

Edit:  And thanks hoosierbanana for the good advice on adding lime!

Subject: You are probably a "fignut" if........ Replies: 72
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...You know that "fignuts" are not some new kind of breakfast cereal.


Subject: Hello from MA -- And a Question Replies: 16
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Thanks for the recommendations.  It's good to know that I can root prune to remove some of the existing soil.  Do I need to prune the branches to compensate, even on a young tree?  (I'd hate to do that!)  In any case, it seems to be draining well now, so I'm guessing it's only showing stress from the previous episode.

Yes, there is a lot of bark in the MG -- that's partly why I bought it.  I thought that bark was good for drainage, but I guess it's pine bark that I'm looking for, not just any composted bark.

Subject: Hello from MA -- And a Question Replies: 16
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Thank you everyone. Unfortunately, most of the larger leaves on this plant are turning yellow – looks like it might be touch-and-go for this guy. I’ll try to get my three trees in a spot with some afternoon shade. I haven’t fertilized them beyond what’s in the MG Organic potting mix I repotted them in at the beginning of June. Since the sickest tree has to regrow healthy leaves now, does it make sense to start fertilizing at this point?


Subject: Hello from MA -- And a Question Replies: 16
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Here's the current state of the fig leaves I photographed above.  Is this just the slow death of the leaves due to over-watering, or do I have something else going on here?  The brown edge of the leaves is brittle and dry, some with tiny blue-ish spots.  New growth looks good, so it sounds like Navid is right – I’m just double checking :).  Now that I’m watering less, the soil seems to drain faster and much more thoroughly (most of what goes in seems to come out).  It’s amazing how much the hydrodynamics have changed.

A couple of more questions:

Should I pull off leaves that have reached this state?

The figs are still pretty small (like large cherries), but they’ve begun to darken. About how long does it take for them to ripen from this point – days, or weeks?

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Subject: Alvas Fig (Portuguese) Replies: 9
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Thanks for the pictures – I’m glad you were able to pick up some nice trees. The woman told me that she also has Pingo de Mel, but that Alvas is her favorite. It’s too bad that she doesn’t have a name for the black one. I have an unidentified Portuguese black fig from a different vendor at the same market and it’s definitely a different tree.


Subject: Alvas Fig (Portuguese) Replies: 9
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nelson20vt -- They're all from the mainland.  I've yet to find a fig variety from the Azores, even though there is a large immigrant population here from those islands.  When I visited Sao Miguel a couple of years ago, the trees I saw everywhere all seemed to be of the same variety.  I've heard of Capelas and a couple of others from the Azores -- it wouldn't surprise me if there are many others, although they might be hard to find at this point. 

Portugal is famous for having something like 100-300 varieties of wine grapes that aren't found anywhere else.  The same may be true of Portuguese figs to a certain extent.

nelson20vt, do you have personal experience with these tasty Azorean varieties?

Subject: Alvas Fig (Portuguese) Replies: 9
Posted By: BeninMA Views: 994
 
Fall River - I'll give you the details if you're interested.

Ben

Subject: Alvas Fig (Portuguese) Replies: 9
Posted By: BeninMA Views: 994
 

Has anyone heard of this white Portuguese fig?  A Portuguese woman was selling trees at the farmers’ market.  She says she sells trees and fresh figs from 5 Portuguese varieties.  I’ve seen the mother trees in the neighborhood and they’re huge – I’m always impressed that they manage to cover them for the winter.


Subject: My first fig tree Replies: 8
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ohjustaguy -- I'm very impressed by the trellis you built!  Forgive my ignorance, but what are those concrete footings you're using?

Passionfruit flowers are amazing!  They look like something from Star Trek :)

Subject: It's RAINING FIGS in the Carolinas!!!!! Replies: 35
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Dennis, where did you get your Marseilles White, if I might ask?


Subject: It's RAINING FIGS in the Carolinas!!!!! Replies: 35
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Dennis, I knew you had a nice orchard developing -- now it's great to see it producing!

Herman, I'd be interested to know your evaluation of grape varieties.  I'm interested in growing grapes that taste best for fresh eating (including muscat types), but I can't do any spraying.

Ben

Subject: My first fig tree Replies: 8
Posted By: BeninMA Views: 966
 

Very nice, thanks for sharing.  What do you have growing on the trellis?


Subject: Misadventures in Fig Labeling (retail) Replies: 4
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I figured there'd be a story -- It's good to hear that they noticed the issue and are seeking to remedy it.  I'd certainly be more likely to do business with an operation that is so transparent about their product.


Subject: Misadventures in Fig Labeling (retail) Replies: 4
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Gave me a chuckle…

 

Ficus carica 'Celeste' - formerly 'Black Mission'

http://www.logees.com/prodinfo.asp?number=R1938-4

-Ben


Subject: A rare summer week in the North like in a 'fig heaven' Replies: 10
Posted By: BeninMA Views: 951
 

Are 90+ degree temps better than 80-90 degrees for ripening figs?


Subject: A productive Conadria (with pics.) Replies: 25
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Navid,

Thank you for all the details.  I've read that training horizontal branches encourages fruiting and you seem to have a very good example of that.  Do you have any special technique?

Regarding the birds, I wouldn't be so generous, especially after knowing the exact number of figs I stand to lose ;).

Ben



Subject: A productive Conadria (with pics.) Replies: 25
Posted By: BeninMA Views: 3,051
 

That's an amazing amount of figs!  How old is the tree?  Do you ever use bird netting?  Most importantly, how do they taste?


Subject: Guess the fig and win Replies: 49
Posted By: BeninMA Views: 2,645
 

Preto?


Subject: Fig Orchard (with pics) Replies: 19
Posted By: BeninMA Views: 1,717
 
Navid,

Thank you for the details.  I agree about container plants -- too risky to leave in such a structure without the efforts you mention.  I was thinking more about established in-ground trees like you see in nypd5229's link.  In any case, I need to figure out how to grow them that big before I worry so much about protecting them ;)

-Ben

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
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I'm new to figs myself, but I came across the variety when looking into Portuguese varieties.  As the name suggests, it's supposed to put out good Brebas.  It's listed here:  http://www.treesofjoy.com/myfigs.htm  I'd also be curious to know more about it.

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
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Have you considered trying Brevas de Galicia?  Galicia has a climate similar to yours.


Subject: Fig Orchard (with pics) Replies: 19
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Very impressive orchard.  I wonder if hoop houses might work well to protect in-ground fig trees up north.  They've become quite popular here for winter gardening and season extension.  They also look easy enough to build:

http://www.agrowingtradition.com/2010/11/building-hoop-house-for-garden.html

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
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Gwenn,
Thanks for sharing.  I'll be interested to see how you make out with Lampeira


Subject: EL Lattarulla and St. Anthony Marseilles Replies: 14
Posted By: BeninMA Views: 1,352
 

Since both of these figs can go by the name "Marseilles," I wonder which one was the Marseilles that Thomas Jefferson liked. 


Subject: My Dark Portuguese Plant Replies: 4
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Beautiful tree!  Do you have holes in the pots to allow the roots to grow out into the surrounding soil?

Ben

Subject: Hello from MA -- And a Question Replies: 16
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Navid,

Thank you for elaborating -- that’s all very useful information.

Talking to my mom seems to confirm your theory -- water runs out the bottom maybe a couple of minutes after watering. She waters every other day -- and occasionally every three days -- she says the surface of the soil is dry at that point, although she can’t really work her finger in. I’ll pass along your tip about feeling the weight of the pot before watering. (I was worried about letting it get that dry, because I’ve heard that inconsistent watering can cause the fruit to drop or split.) When she does water, should she always be giving it enough to come out the bottom?

I had considered using a lighter mix for repotting, but I had read that could cause problems, since the root ball would still contain soil of a different composition. Do you suggest that I use a lighter mix when repotting next year, or just when I get new potted plants?

I guess I’m proof that you can over-think everything, and still just plain over-water your plants.  :-)

Ben

Subject: Hello from MA -- And a Question Replies: 16
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Navid

I didn't add extra bark to the soil -- it's straight from the bag.  The pot is light grey plastic, but with no attached saucer -- you're supposed to buy a saucer separately, but instead of doing that we just have it directly on the patio.  I'm not sure how long it takes for water to drain out the bottom.  My mom has been doing the watering, so I'll have to ask her.  The soil does seem to dry out if not watered every day, at least it was dry for the inch or so I could stick my finger in.

We've been erring on the side of over-watering the new plants, so I think you may have found the problem. 

Ben


Subject: Hello from MA -- And a Question Replies: 16
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Thanks for the suggestion.  No, I haven't sprayed, or even fertilized yet.  I repotted them after purchasing a month ago using MG Organic potting soil.


Subject: Best figs at your location Replies: 266
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I thought this map might help people determine whether they have the summer heat to ripen specific fig varieties, based on where others are growing them.  You can see why they have so much trouble in the Pacific Northwest!

http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/climate/US%20Climate%20Maps/Lower%2048%20States/Temperature/Mean%20Total%20Cooling%20Degree%20Days/Gallery/mean-total-cooling-degree-days.html

Subject: Hello from MA -- And a Question Replies: 16
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Hello all,

I just wanted to say hi and thank everyone for the great information on this site -- I’ve already learned so much about fig cultivation from everyone here!  I was also hoping someone could tell me what might be wrong with my fig trees (please see attached images).  I noticed the other day a distinct black pattern on one of the leaves.  It seems to have spread to other leaves and a second tree.  I can’t rub it off with a wet finger.  There are what look like a few stray “rust” marks and looking closely at the pictures, a couple of pale yellow spots, although these weren’t noticeable in the afternoon sun. A couple of the tips looked brown, but maybe that’s normal (?).  The trees seem to be thriving, with a fair amount of fruit (which I thinned a bit).

I bought my first three fig trees at a local farmers’ market.  I have a “black” and a “green” fig tree from a Portuguese man who says they are originally from Lisbon.  My next project might be to get some cuttings from friends of friends in the local Portuguese community.  I live on the south coast of Massachusetts.  The trees are living at my mom’s house, since I don’t have sun in my backyard. Unfortunately, this will probably leave my fig collection severely stunted, for now…

Ben

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