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Subject: Hydrogen Peroxide v Gnats Replies: 34
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 432
 
Guys - I have tried EVERYTHING out there, and probably more than you may have heard of, to get rid of fungus gnats for several years. Some things actually made a dent, some things were pointless, but nothing absolutely got rid of the gnats.  I finally found the way to do so that worked 100% for me. Like really, 100%. NOT ONE GNAT.  I posted about it on YouTube and I've been sharing it with as many people as I can who have this issue because I know the frustration very well.

Here it is, and let me know how if you go for it.


Subject: Mold on cutting leaves Replies: 5
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Your cutting looks mostly fine to me.  Mold only grows well on dead matter.  As long as your plant is healthy, it shouldn't do much damage at all. 

Subject: organic or natural fertilizers ? Replies: 8
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A great Azomite alternative is making a mineral supplement by drying/roasting egg shells, then pulverizing them into a fine powder with a blender or grinder. Its amazing. Good for people too, and the price is right.  : )

I top dress all of my plants with manure/compost. Its perfect because it slowly trickles down as it rains or receives watering. No need to work it into the soil. You can even put it right on top of the grass. Top dressing is also great because you don't have to worry about burning the plants if its rich, since you're not making direct contact with the roots. Only by the above mentioned trickle, as well as worms coming up to feed on the compost, bringing it down to the root zone, but by that point its gone through the worms' digestive tracts which as you know is perfect for the plants. I refuse to use chemical and salt based fertilizers.

If for whatever reason you need a nitrogen-rich fertilizer to be absorbed quickly you can also make compost tea and/or add urine (pee into a bucket or whatever) to water, 1 part urine to at least several parts water.  Good stuff...really!

There are other factors involved with scarcity in fig production such as receiving enough direct sunlight, so if the ones in the grass are in a shadier position, that can be why as well. 

Subject: No more fungus gnats, pretty much a guarantee Replies: 7
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 228
 
drew51 The problem with the Hydrogen Peroxide is that its going to kill everything, not just the pests. So that includes all of the beneficial organisms in the soil. I didn't want my soil quality to deteriorate over time because of it. The neem tea doesn't harm them, in fact it benefits them.  If it works for you and your plants are still as healthy as they can be, then great for you though! 

rcantor I do apologize that it's kind of long winded. I just like to cover all possible aspects and troubleshoots. Thanks for the summarization. 

Subject: No more fungus gnats, pretty much a guarantee Replies: 7
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 228
 
SCfigFanatic  I thought that hazard sheet was practically a joke. Of course its going to smolder when lit on fire (like most things). I've been handling this stuff and its completely fine. Neem cake is just the organic material (no chemicals) left over from pressing the neem seeds for neem oil. I guarantee this stuff is less toxic than most of anything else. Common sense stuff.  If you're applying it in mass, i.e. on acres of farm land, and it gets a bit dusty, then obviously it might be best to wear a dust mask. They are just writing up all of the unlikely but possible issues with it for legal responsibility purposes.

Glad the Gnatrol is working for you. It's biological warfare pretty much (the bacteria Bacillus Thuringiensis, or BT).  I have actually used it, and out of all the things that I tried besides the neem cake, I will say that it worked the best. It just didn't COMPLETELY eradicate them. Its also much more expensive. You can also try a product called Microbe Lift.  Its a fraction of the cost because it's extremely concentrated drops meant for the market of ponds, pools, etc., where 4 or 5 drops covers 100's of gallons. 

 




Subject: Prolific Peter's Honey Replies: 18
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 446
 
I have similar production and short node-spacing on some of mine as well.  I think that it has to do with not going fertilize/nitrogen crazy as well. In the spring, if the green growth is so explosive, there will be longer space, more stem and foliage growth and less fruit. Good sun exposure and not over watering will aid in this too.

I can also attest to fertilizing naturally. All I do is top-dress with a rich compost so that the plants don't just get the salt and chemical based N-P-K but a better quality, along with other micronutrients and microbials. Makes all the difference.  Since it is at the top and not mixed in, the plants never get burned. It trickles down slowly to the root zone from watering, and the more you water (hottest months) the more nutrients the plant gets, so its the perfect solution for me year-round. If you have a few worms in the pots, its a plus, because they come up to feed and bring it down to the root zone through their digestive track which is one of the best, most bioavailable forms... 
Go figure -- what happens in nature works well. : )

Subject: No more fungus gnats, pretty much a guarantee Replies: 7
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 228
 
Hey guys,

I was just posting about this and it dawned on me that I should probably start a thread..
After several years of battling fungus gnats, trying everything you can imagine, like sand, DE, BT, gravel, vinegar traps, sticky tracks, taping the pot surfaces, vacuums, essential oils, herb teas, cedar, gnat spray products, and many more, I finally figured out what works. It worked 100% and I no longer ever see gnats. I own MANY potted plants. I made a Youtube video to share this with other growers so I will let it explain.  Best of all it is easy and it's excellent for the health of the plants. Feel free to shoot if you have any questions. Also this will work with other insect pests like aphids, thrips, white fly, scale, etc. Enjoy.




Subject: aphids Replies: 18
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 238
 
Neem tea!! I use it for everything and when I make it from neam meal/cake, I don't have to deal with oils so I can spray it all over my plants. It works as a systemic when you water with it and also a foliar spray. Either way or both, it will knock the aphids and many other pests right out. This video focuses on fungus gnats but you can do the same thing (except for the top-dressing -- not necessary) for the aphids. It also acts as a light fertilizer! I couldn't recommend this more.  That's why I had to throw it up on Youtube.  I'll let the video explain the rest:





Subject: When Can i Fertilize? Replies: 5
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 313
 
I fertilize all year, by top dressing the potted plants with a rich compost, keeping it constantly top-dressed. This is the best way in my opinion because:
A) The amount of nutrients the plant gets is based on how much (and often) I water, which means very little in the winter and more the warmer it gets, which is perfect.
B) You never have to worry about "burning" the plants, no matter how rich it is because you do not dig it in to the root zone. You are doing it the way nature does it, without skipping steps.  The watering brings light amounts to the root zone and if you have some earthworms, they will come up to feed on it and deposit the nutrients down at the root zone as well, the best way known to man, which is through a worm's digestive track.
C) It is healthier (as long as it is a good healthy chemical free compost/manure compost).  I'm sorry but MiracleGro and such products are just not good.  They are chemical and salt based, and ultimately within time will wreck the soil health.  They also just focus on the 3 majors (NPK) and none of the minors. There are so many trace nutrients and minerals that are missing these days, which the lack of will be reflected in the taste of your figs. Rich compost is alive. Chemical fertilizers are dead and it slowly kills the microbes in the soil. A healthy soil microbial life is the most key and foundational factor to healthy plants.  

It's like giving your plants compost tea every time you water. 

Subject: My New Fig House (Using recycled windows) Replies: 13
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 347
 
Looks great, Noel! It appears we had similar ideas. You can find mine here:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=7912644

I like your style with the siding!

Subject: 5 ft potted fig tree got rust (some leaves only) Replies: 4
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 141
 
That's not rust.. That's sunburn. I'm guessing the leaves were already formed when you moved it outside (as opposed to the buds and leaves forming AFTER it was moved outside)?

I have found that leaves formed in indirect sun or sun-through-window get sunburned very easily when moved outside. In fact here in Colorado at high altitude, no matter what I do in that situation the sun will completely destroy the leaves, even if I attempt a slow hardening off. It was hard for me to accept this because I thought figs were rockstars of hot, dry and sunny climate, but not as much at high altitude. Wherever you are, you are likely OK if you make your transition very slow. 

Keep the leaves on. They're not diseased or unhealthy -- just damaged around the perimeters.
I'd move the plant to be eased off of the sun just a little until it resumes new growth.

Subject: Recycled Window Greenhouse Project Replies: 13
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 376
 
Thanks.  Sure will.

Subject: 5th zone the wintering in a hole Replies: 15
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 311
 
Great work, Elena! 

What is that powdery stuff in the container?

Subject: Recycled Window Greenhouse Project Replies: 13
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 376
 
Lots of brebas already underway in here! First winter season was a success with minimal intervention via an oil-filled space heater for several of the absolute coldest days, and this was just to keep things like bougainvillea and aloe alive. Otherwise the figs, olive, pineapple guava, future pomegranates, and most citrus would have been totally fine with no intervention. 

The subterranean heating ran off of a very low powered duct fan thermostatically controlled that didn't seem to make any dent in our electric bill.

We'll see how summer does, especially in regards to heat and ventilation.

Subject: Is chichen manure good for fig tree as fertilizer Replies: 37
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 733
 
Yes sir!

Subject: Is chichen manure good for fig tree as fertilizer Replies: 37
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 733
 
What I've learned is to replicate what happens in nature. Nothing is ever tilled (which is very destructive to the balanced layers of microbes and soil structure) and fertilizer like manures, composts, leaves, etc, are all applied to the surface. 

I apply the composted materials in my chicken coop and run (manure, leaves, hay, wood product, and whatever scraps the chickens don't eat) to the surface of my garden area AND my potted plants, and they all do amazing. Its actually the perfect system for potted plants because every time I water, it carries some of the nutrients down, and the amount that I water directly corresponds with the active growing season (i.e. you don't water much in the winter months). I usually have a few earthworms in my potted plants as well, so they come to the top to feed and then carry those same nutrients down to the root system, which by the time it has gone through a worms digestive track, it is that much more perfectly bio-available for the plant. 

I even apply this stuff sometimes when it is not fully composted by the way, with no detriment. Again, if you till it into the root area, it will of course burn the roots, but if its at the surface, it shouldn't hurt anything unless you really piled it up or something. 

You cannot compare composted organic material to chemical fertilizers like Miracle Gro. The former will build your soil in the long run, and the latter will destroy your soil in the long run. They are chemical and salt based, which is destructive to soil life. Again, I'm talking long-term. Furthermore, compared with lab-based chemical fertilizers which only concentrate on the N-P-K values, composted materials have so much more than just the N-P-K, but also include all of the trace nutrients and minerals that plants love. This is why our produce doesn't taste as good as it used to, as our soils are getting more and more depleted. 

Guarantee there will be a difference in the taste of a fig that has been grown in mineral, nutrient, organic material-rich living soil and one that has been sitting in just potting soil and Miracle Gro for years. 

Hope this helps.

Subject: Recycled Window Greenhouse Project Replies: 13
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 376
 
Thanks! 
Yea, I figured that it would come out a bit visibly awkward, but it was minimized quite a bit by planning out the best possible placements. While it still exhibits a bit of interesting "character", the result is not as bad as I thought it would be.  : )

Subject: Recycled Window Greenhouse Project Replies: 13
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 376
 
Haha, that's what I was thinking.  Would love to do a huge and improved version in my yard. 

Subject: Recycled Window Greenhouse Project Replies: 13
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 376
 
Thanks Dave!

Subject: Recycled Window Greenhouse Project Replies: 13
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 376
 
Hey friends -- just thought I'd share..

In 2015 I started a greenhouse project and finally completed it. It's an 11'x14.5' on-house/lean-to greenhouse constructed with upcycled windows. Its purpose was to capture a Mediterranean climate in Colorado, zone 5, with minimal intervention to grow figs, citrus, pomegranates, cold-season vegetables all winter, etc. It actually came out better than I would have expected, and its still an ongoing project (next is a gutter/rain collection system). It utilizes a Subterranean Heating and Cooling System, roughly installed.

I took a few videos of it. They can be a little long-winded and sloppy at times but nonetheless, I figure that some of you may take interest so I hope you enjoy.

Here is the overall:


And a tour of the first plants I have growing inside:

Subject: fungus gnat help Replies: 38
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 767
 
Guys -- no more fretting the fungus gnats. I had the worst problem with them in my house with 17 plants growing in the windows and I tried everything you can imagine...for years.  Finally found what worked for me and have NEVER had an issue since.  Its been over a year. Its called Neam Cake or AKA Neam Meal. Its completely safe, organic, and its actually very healthy for the plants as its a light fertilizer and root health support. Its much better than Neam oil for gnats because it stays at the top (as well as soil drench) eventually killing everything. Here's a video I did that explains everything:



Subject: Improved Celeste and Florea,The earliest varieties to ripe,here. Replies: 58
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Herman,

Do you know how much die back the Florea experienced yet as of this past winter (2014)?

Thanks!

Subject: Fig orchards/growing areas in California (Orange/LA area)? Replies: 11
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: ). Thanks for the offer.

I'm jealous of you guys for sure. I'm trying to make figs happen in Colorado. Hey, the challenges are what keeps us going, right?

Subject: Fig orchards/growing areas in California (Orange/LA area)? Replies: 11
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Sue -- maybe we should visit your place! ; )

Thanks for the input. Yea, I'm actually a young Greek American from Long Island, so I know exactly what you mean.

Subject: Fig orchards/growing areas in California (Orange/LA area)? Replies: 11
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Thanks guys

Subject: Fig orchards/growing areas in California (Orange/LA area)? Replies: 11
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I'm gonna be taking a vacation to the LA/Orange area next month and was just wondering, since my dad and I are both fig enthusiasts, if there are any destinations around that we can see a lot of fig trees, without necessarily driving down to Encanto or UC Davis.. 

While we're at it, also looking for citrus groves or anything like that as well. : )

Anyone have any input?

Thanks!

Evan

Subject: help!! Sad, drooping leaves on Panachee!! Replies: 12
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 598
 
I echo RichinNJ.  I've had this problem many times here in CO and it was because of our intensive sun/heat on a young tree with very little root system. Put it in the shade for a bit until it builds back up from the squirrel issues, then slowly return to sunlight. Can almost guarantee you heat/sun is the issue. Especially with a BLACK plastic bag to absorb even more heat from the sun at the roots too, which should be cool. A light colored fabric or something similar should do.

Hope that helps.

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 8,011
 
I'd boldly suggest that no other "Vasilika" is as good as the the Attica Vasilika that Sotiris speaks of. I had this variety of fig when I went to Greece and I am a believer. Incredible! The BEST fig, by far, I have ever tasted.. Also, another overlooked factor regarding splitting is the pollination by the fig wasp, not just climate. Sometimes "overpollination" (which is not necessarily always a negative thing) can occur because of too much fig wasp traffic... In other words, too many ovules/florets getting pollinated. The inside development/expansion causes the fruit to split. Also causes it to be extremely rich in flavor. : )

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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That's awesome. Do those suction cups ever lose their grip? Where do you get those?

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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Nice, Eli.  Thanks for sharing!

Subject: Help request from a Colorado grower.. Does anyone have these few fig types? Replies: 4
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Yea, it will be. Not sure. The whole plant is about 10" tall. It would definitely be impressive.

Subject: Proper use of Gnatrol WDG BTi for watering Replies: 11
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 2,790
 
It just says up to two years. I've heard that refrigeration is good for shelf life so I store it that way.

Also says 6 drops for 100 gallons for pond use. That is concentrated!

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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Yea, not sure myself.

Wouldnt mind getting my hands on a Sal's El though.

Subject: Help request from a Colorado grower.. Does anyone have these few fig types? Replies: 4
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Yes sir. I'll be searching. Perhaps, we'll have to bug Herman. : )

Yea, it has those 3 figlets, but we'll see if its able to ripen in the 60's.

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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So, another thought on that note, is they can perhaps bring the plants in if it is getting cold and they are not done ripening. Then they can figure out how they can give them dormancy for a bit, to start the process over again with vigor.

Also, petite negra is a fig that they may be able to grow inside all the time (once again, assuming they have decent window(s))!  Its a lot LESS hardy of a fig which in turn needs little to no dormancy. Logees nursery claims that if kept warm it will just keep its leaves and still go in and out of fruiting. I have one, but not long enough to verify all this yet.

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 1,589
 
Florea! Seems to be one of the hardiest, yet most early fruiting varieties. I'm gonna really try to get my hands on one this season.

Here's what I do...and this idea might be helpful to the Buena Vista folks and you as well, Milehighgirl..

I have my potted figs outside as usual in the summer and then, as the weather gets cooler, leave them out, as long as you can. They go into dormancy. If the temperature plummets to dangerous levels (below the late 20's) stick them in a safer place if you can (garage, etc), then bring them back out. The trick is you want to keep this going for a while. When the weather gets to the point where its too cold too long, bring them into your house and put them in front of a sunny window. Its like you game them a mini, Mediterranean winter. In fact, some sources say they need less than 100hrs of dormancy. That's like 4 days. I'd go longer than that, but you get my gist.

The plants pop out of dormancy and begin fruiting at some point during their extra long growing season. Bring them out when its very warm. Repeat the process.

Works pretty well, especially if you do have some decently sunny windows. Plus, you enjoy your figgy friends inside for much of the year. Mine are freshly popped out of dormancy and looking beautiful in my house. All 10 plants. : )

Subject: Proper use of Gnatrol WDG BTi for watering Replies: 11
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I also like using a little diluted natural Neem oil from Dynagro as well. It kills those little guys in time, is healthy for the plants, kills the bad fungi, and is actually a systemic! So it helps protect against leaf eating plants as well, such as spider mights.

Subject: Proper use of Gnatrol WDG BTi for watering Replies: 11
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Don't have the answer about the SIPs, but I'm here to save you guys money.

I've searched long and hard because of issues with fungus gnats, and it is very expensive to get a strong dose like Gnatrol. Look up this stuff called Microbe Lift BMC. You can find it for anywhere between $15 and $25 and it is a SUPER concentrated liquid in a dropper. It is sold in the pond/water garden market to treat for mosquito larvae, so each tiny bottle can treat around 500 gallons! Literally, you can put just a few drops in a gallon of dechlorinated water for your plants. It will last months and months. 

Subject: Anyone tried this? Replies: 62
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Wow, great tip for rooting. I knew honey was a good one, but never heard of cinnamon for it. Just be aware though that the cinnamon usually sold in the US is not true cinnamon but is actually Cassia. They are different from each other. There are measures you can take to get true cinnamon (which works better on ants I've heard than cassia). BTW, most cinnamon STICKS are still usually cassia! You can look up the pictures to see the comparisons. Then again, cassia is related and has similar properties. Maybe these recommendations were unknowingly made while implementing cassia anyway!


Timmy2Green, you mean BT as in Bacillus thuringiensis, right? I've searched long and hard because of issues with fungus gnats, and it is very expensive to get a strong dose. I'll let you in on a secret though ; ). Look up this stuff called Microbe Lift BMC. You can find it for anywhere between $15 and $25 and it is SUPER concentrated. It is sold in the pond/water garden market to treat for mosquito larvae, so each tiny bottle can treat around 500 gallons! Literally, you can put just a few drops in a gallon of dechlorinated water for your plants.

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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MileHighGirl - Interesting regarding Wilt Pruf. Never heard of it before. Paw Paws.. Also one fruit I don't know much about. Does well here?

Tony - Dang, and I thought 5500ft was challenging. Not sure, but the most cold hardy varieties I've heard of (that I really want to get my hands on) are Florea and LaRadek's English Brown Turkey. If it just gets way too cold for the above ground parts to ever make it, they can always try heavily mulched Hardy Chicago since it supposedly grows back from the roots with such vigor to fruit the same season.



Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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Definitely. What that has looked like for me (in my semi-arid high and dry climate) is allowing things like lambsquarters, prickly lettuce and wild amaranthus to grow huge. I chop them down and mulch. They taste good too. : )

Always been intrigued by hugelculture. May have to try it some day.


Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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Yea, that's the whole point. Using what you can to provide a covering. If a good covering is implemented, than everything good in the soil below will happen automatically. No where in nature do we see exposed soil, except maybe the desert, which validates the point. Yes, you use what you have. I liked starting with the Back To Eden method, because tree services are almost everywhere. I even hear of people getting free wood chips in Arizona, etc. Its great because otherwise these ground up trees end up being wasted. But it's different for everyone, depending on available resources. I also like the wood chips because they tend to hold moisture when there is excess and release moisture when there is not enough

I wanted to start with a quick base covering by using wood chips (ground up trees with leaves), but I'm also now using everything I have. Leaves never go to waste anymore. They are some of natures best soil builders. Weeds as well. As long as they are not full of undesirable seeds, why throw them out? I just pull them out and lay them on. They grow in hard places because they are so efficient at pulling up nutrients. Why waste it. Great nitrogen.

Nature is designed so that as plants and trees draw up nutrients, they are then eventually returned to the soil by leaf dropping, sticks/twigs, wildfires, etc.  Very simple concept. All we have to do is observe, and stop over-working it with our unnatural, harmful and failing "solutions". At the bottom of the most lush forests on earth we see leaves, wood and various organic matter. Works perfect and no work is ever required.  :)

Looking forward to checking out the videos.

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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Interesting!

Most of my figs that I have this issue with are pretty young, and the outside one growing in-ground last summer against the South wall is you as well.. Certainly not large and established. So that makes a lot of sense.

And they do often (even when they curl pretty severely) straighten back up and normalize.

Thanks.

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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hllyhll Awesome. I'm always for any permaculture approach. At the end of the last growing season, I mulched everything very heavy in the likes of the Back To Eden Method. If you guys haven't heard of it, I strongly recommend it.
  Its becoming kind of a movement and its so simple. Changed the way I see it all. Already was seeing results. It will change everything this upcoming season, as now my soil will be constantly "nourished" with compost tea, will be teaming with microbes/earthworms, and will retain moisture evenly (which I think may have been a lot of the issue). Let me know if you want me to give you a "readers digest" explanation of what its about.  Interesting regarding the Pea shrub. Will have to check that out. Was doing the same with some tall Agastache flowers which helped, but will need something taller..

rcantor Interesting regarding feeding. Will keep that in mind, especially for the potted plants. Will be giving them "worm tea" this year.

milehighgirl Fellow Denverite! Thanks for the input. I think its just too hot on a south wall that gets full sun toward mid summer. Thanks for the input. And yes, containers probably get too hot at the root zone as well. Will try the burlap or paint trick, or change to lighter containers -- especially since some are black! I'm finding that with most plants (and I have many different types), terracotta or something else that is breathable is WAY better than plastic anyway. Better for the roots.  Good point about the altitude factor (because figs do well in other arid, sunny areas -- like LA or San Diego).

elin Cool.. Would love to see your progress.

Thanks for all the input. I think I just need to make sure all growing conditions are good, but also to a point, need to except that full sun in my area is just too much.


Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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Thanks for the input.

Its just interesting. I also have that issue with a little one I have in the ground against the South wall. It will pop out of dormancy slowly, as is normal, and then get beaten up by the sun.  I think maybe at my elevation, its just too hot of a location.  Would be curious to know if there varieties that are more heavily sun-tolerant than others though..

Subject: Anyone have the same problem that I have with the SUN? Replies: 34
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Just curious. I've had several fig varieties now in pots and when I move them outside in the summer (even after a slow transition / hardening off) they start wilting and bending from the sun. Watering helps but even when moist, they will still often do it. 

I also have one in-ground against a South wall and being in that warm spot, it really gets affected by the sun -- even more so. Kind of discouraging, because as I begin to experiment with more in-ground plants, I'd like to be able to position them against the S. wall for obvious reasons.

Much of it may be the fact that I am in mile-high Denver where the sun is very strong and it can get pretty hot. Its just strange because most usually think of figs as heat/sun lovers.

Does anyone else experience this problem? Also, does anyone have any input on varieties that they find have good sun-tolerance? And since I may try some in part/filtered shade because of the above issue, are there any that you are finding to do extra well in shade (and productive)?

Subject: Help request from a Colorado grower.. Does anyone have these few fig types? Replies: 4
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Hi, I'm looking for a few varieties that I'm thinking may survive our crazy Denver climate!

They are:

Florea

LaRadek's English Brown Turkey

Hanc's English Brown Turkey

Sodus Black Sicilian (I know this one is extremely new)

If you have cuttings or plants of any of these you are offering, please feel free to let me know. I don't have much to trade at this point (have several varieties in pots but most are too small), but I can certainly send you money!

If you guys have any other recommendations, I'd love to hear it. High and dry, the sun is very strong with pretty hot summers, winters can be mild but suddenly plummet to extremes of negative temperatures.

Thanks!

Subject: Greek figs Replies: 11
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Nice! Looks beautiful.

Here's the distance between the two:

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Lampokampos,+Lakonia,+Greece&daddr=Vourvoura+220+13,+Greece&hl=en&ll=37.116526,22.726593&spn=0.559579,0.940704&sll=37.336589,22.481289&sspn=0.069744,0.117588&geocode=Fcr-MgIdc3teASn1aTEJszeeFDHo3g2MeuzRzg%3BFdmxOQIdPC5XASmb8RzvUCRgEzGAirriLL0ABQ&oq=Lampoka&t=h&gl=us&mra=ls&z=10

Subject: Greek figs Replies: 11
Posted By: EDoukas Views: 2,826
 
Amazing.

My father is from a place called Lambokambos, in the Lakonia region, Peloponnese Greece. Anyone else from around there at all?

When I went to visit my Yaya (grandmother), among all the amazing figs in the area, she had one tree that had the best figs I've ever tasted--by far. The inside was unbelievably sweet, yet tangy, fruity and still figgy. It was so rich that it was almost like fig jelly. Of course these were Smirna, or pollinated figs I'm sure.

Here's a photo we took. Some of them were splitting like this.

I took back some of the seeds (unfortunately this is back when I didn't know any better, and should have taken a cutting!) and I got a few to sprout! I have a small tree in a pot.. A few years old. I know the odds are pretty much 0 that they will not need to be pollinated and that they will be like the parent, but oh well, still sentimental. Plus, a friend of mine gave me a caprifig, so someday I will have fun experimenting. : )

The one in your pdf that it looks like the most is the one called Markopoulos, but I wonder.

Good day to you all.

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