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Subject: Mid Winter Garage Check Replies: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rewton
Kelby, I have a 50 gallon container with water in it in the back of my garage and I position my potted figs all around it.  I think it helps a lot because when the temps drop, and the water freezes, it gives off heat to the figs.  Likewise when it has been cold and the temps then rise it absorbs heat as the water thaws to keep the temps from getting to warm in the garage.


Exactly my thoughts. Maybe next winter I'll get a barrel, great idea!

Subject: Mid Winter Garage Check Replies: 16
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Not sure if it actually helped, but I put gallon jugs of water on and around my potted garage figs to help with temperature swings. Temps have been between 26 and 40 most of the winter in there.

Subject: Mid Winter Garage Check Replies: 16
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The cold has not been nearly as bad and as long as last winter, hopefully things are better for you this year! I gave mine a drink yesterday, as well.

Subject: Low-down on Cole De Dame Grise (etc etc) Replies: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mjbaransky
So what is so great about the Col De Dames? (or specifically Gris).

They are cold hardy apparently, but then also take a long time to ripen?

Why are the viewed as so desirable?

Are there other varieties of figs that they are similar too?

Ronde de Bordeax got a lot of press for being cold hardy and excellent flavor.
Same with Violette - 

What would make someone choose a Col De Dame Gris over a Ronde de Bordeaux or Violette?

I guess the question is, what is the characteristic of Col de Dame Gris that makes it a stand out.  (I am hearing cold hardy, as many others are,...but then it also has a long ripening season...)


They supposedly taste out of this world. But they need a long season to ripen, which you probably don't have here the NE most years.

RdB is very good, very hardy, and early ripening.

Subject: My fig count just went down... Replies: 58
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Congrats! Little girls are the best thing to have.

Subject: Low-down on Cole De Dame Grise (etc etc) Replies: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rafaelissimmo
Kelby it is an interesting question, the Gris is not part of the UC Davis collection, so theoretically it will not have "California fmv." So it is important to know if your CdD Noir or Blanc is sourced out of the UC Davis Germplasm. On the other hand, the mediterrenean is not considered fmv-free, so it is not guaranteed that a CdD from Baud or Pons is free of fmv. But chances are it will not be the same or as bad as UC Davis origin plants.


If I recall correctly Herman2 said that Gris is the easiest to grow for him because it is the least affected (infected?) by FMV. The other Cdd varieties were not very healthy and had poor productivity. That makes sense if the Gris available in the US did not originate from UC Davis, I did not know that they don't have it.

Subject: Cold Hardy Fig List by Flavor Replies: 61
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mgginva was kind enough to let me add his ripening lists, so they are available now as well. Thanks mgg!

Subject: Low-down on Cole De Dame Grise (etc etc) Replies: 14
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I've read that Gris is the least affected by FMV, making it a better choice for northern growers.

Subject: Tapla's Review- Container Soils - Water Movement and Retention XXI Replies: 15
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Sheesh, I make a legitimate point and off you go. Have a nice day, Rich. I'm flattered that you feel the need to stalk me, though.

Subject: Cutting size Replies: 16
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Good info, thanks! I often wonder if it's better to cut up a large cutting for better chance of success or just leave it intact for stronger plants.

Subject: Tapla's Review- Container Soils - Water Movement and Retention XXI Replies: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichinNJ
I've read allot of papers from professionals on this as well as many of Tapla's posts. I really don't think that his 5:1:1 or "Gritty Mix" recipes are very well thought out and are certainly not backed up with data like so many of the others papers are.

There are better recipes


Quote:
Originally Posted by RichinNJ
I have many links on the subject in this thread. Unfortunately it was high-jacked for a little while. Foruntuately it's back on track. I will post the recipe I will use on the up potting from 5gal to 20 gals I will do in the spring later http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/richs-super-mega-mix-7083529?highlight=super+mega+mix&trail=50


Rich, why are you always trying to start a fight over potting mixes? It's not the first time this has happened and it always ends badly with people quitting the forum.

We're just trying to share what works for each person.

One can find research that supports nearly any standpoint, research is unfortunately not always black and white. Some people have had great success using the 5-1-1 mix, others with the gritty mix, and others using off the shelf potting mixes. No need to try and discredit everyone with a different viewpoint than you on the matter.

I have found Tapla's threads to be very enlightening and will use parts of his information this year as I think it will benefit me. MANY people have found his mix to be excellent, that's why there are 20 some consecutive threads on the topic over on GardenWeb.

Thanks for sharing, Ottawan!

Subject: Tapla's Review- Container Soils - Water Movement and Retention XXI Replies: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zone5figger
I'm curious about folks' experience using the 5:1:1(:1) mix for figs and what kind of watering schedule using that mix entails.   If I had figs in 5-10 gal containers filled with the 5:1:1, I imagine I'd be watering daily(or more) during the summer months, and a drip-irrigation system would be the way to go for convenience.  


I've read that's the main downside to it...well drained for good root development but needs a lot of watering.

Subject: Let's talk (English Brown) Turkey Replies: 16
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Here's an older thread from GW discussing Hanc's English Brown Turkey, if anyone is interested.

It's worth mentioning that Hanc Mathies had a collection of over 65 varieties on Long Island. Many of these he collecting in Greece and Italy. He only kept 3 as he got older, this being one of them. The other 2 were Atreano and Green Ischia.

I have Atreano rooting, just need to get the other two. Just when I think I have everything on my wish list, some new ones pop up!



That's interesting on the UNK Carini and Sweet George, please remember to share results guys!

Subject: Genovese Nero Replies: 40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron4USA
Brent,
I always have cash...but you don't have the varieties I want, since I have most of the regulars already.
also, you are too busy sucking on Will'c fig...or figs... God knows I don't want to take that pleasure away from you.


I came to bring you a shovel, but you're digging a fine hole by yourself. Can't delete this comment now that I've quoted you, either.

Subject: Let's talk (English Brown) Turkey Replies: 16
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That's great Scott! I have a small Sweet George that I hope does well next year. I would caution that not everyone agrees it's an English Brown Turkey variant, and I'm not anywhere near qualified enough to make a call on that. Just sharing what I've read.

Subject: Let's talk (English Brown) Turkey Replies: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rcantor
It gets a bad name because most of us don't have the climate that they need to ripen well.


Very valid point. Perhaps microclimates are needed to get plants growing earlier and ripening later.

Subject: Let's talk (English Brown) Turkey Replies: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by indestructible87
Thanks for putting all of this together in one post. Are you saying all of those can produce brebas after -10 to -15?


No clue. Bob Harper reported his LaRadek's EBT did, there isn't much I could find on breba hardiness of the rest. I assume good if they are all EBT though.

Subject: Let's talk (English Brown) Turkey Replies: 16
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Yes, Steve, it's annoying how many varieties just get the BT label thrown on it. But it seems that English Brown Turkey is worth separating out from the rest, at least for my interests.

Subject: Let's talk (English Brown) Turkey Replies: 16
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We all know the bias some (many? all?) exhibit towards Brown Turkey figs, but I don't think there is enough attention being given to true English Brown Turkey varieties, especially for cold climate growers on accounts of it's exceptional hardiness.

Breba crops on some varieties are reported to still produce even after temperatures of -10 to -15 F, which is astounding. I suppose the only downside is that most English BT varieties seem to be rather late ripening, especially if the breba crop is allowed to fruit in it's entirety. Without taking measures to prolong the growing season, they may not reliably ripen north of Zone 6 or 7. I recall reading herman2 tore out his Sweet George as it seldom ripened.

Assumed to be English BT Varieties
Hanc's English Brown Turkey (might be Southern Brown Turkey?) - I believe this is the the English Brown Turkey sold by Edible Landscaping.
LaRadek's English Brown Turkey
Susser Georg (Sweet George)
Bayernfeige Violleta

Potential
Nexoe / Bornholm
Frank's Fig Unknown (from MichaelTuscon)


Here is a good thread detailing some of the many varieties going by moniker Brown Turkey, Alan has compiled lots of info: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/will-the-real-brown-turkey-please-stand-up-5498398

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
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Great to have you on the forum, please share some photos of your collection!

Subject: Varieties that will ripen here Replies: 21
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Paul, have you tried Improved Celeste? That ripens very early, too.

Subject: In ground trial: Florea (Two leaf shapes) Replies: 49
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I have rooted Florea cuttings with that 3 lobed look too, no reason to believe it's not genuine.

Subject: Anyone else preorder the "Rare Fig Assortment " from Baker Creek? Replies: 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lifigs
Hope this isn't a dumb question but does a TC plant ensure it is FMV free?


Theoretically, yes. It seems they are.

Subject: Anyone else preorder the "Rare Fig Assortment " from Baker Creek? Replies: 50
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I'll bet they are tissue culture plants from Agristarts.

Subject: Expanded rooting setup Replies: 39
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Thanks Tim! I only know they didn't root by gently moving them in the pot after the leaves shriveled off.

I haven't done many cuttings this way yet, but certain varieties seem more prone to doing it (likely other factors at play like you listed). From the first small batch most have rooted beautifully without a problem, some even sprouted below the soil line and above. They just sit in my living room window, no heating mats or anything special. I've found heating mats seem to accelerate root rot in some cuttings, so I unplugged it.

I did just try a handful using the wounding and rooting hormone method recently posted by penandpike, hopefully that will help for tough to root varieties.

Subject: Fig Varieties I Imported to The Middle East Replies: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedmaster
Quote:
Originally Posted by rafaelissimmo
Try grafting tape on the Pastiliere.
I grafted one bud 2 weeks ago on my Atreano. I am waiting to see what happenes.



I think Rafael means wrapping the cuttings in grafting tape/parafilm like Tim Clymer does. Check out this link: http://www.threefoldfarm.org/blog/simple-fig-propagation

Subject: Expanded rooting setup Replies: 39
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Tim, how do you handle cuttings that send out shoots before roots?

I've lost several to this since the shoots dry out and cutting dies.

I have some doing it currently that I've covered with large clear plastic bags, but I have no idea if it will keep the shoots alive until roots develop.

Subject: Available cuttings 1/26 Replies: 85
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillsC
Good old mail service......I sent one package to NY and it did arrive but it visited New Mexico first:)  


Could be worse, mine has left Jacksonville every morning for the last 3 days, figure that one out!

Subject: 2 Rare Breed Cuttings to go... Replies: 64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillsC
Stand by folks.......Aarons next cutting sale will be for Dall'Osso and Martinenca Rimada that he found growing beside the freeway in LA......a bargain at only $25 per cutting and $100 shipping charge.  He is already accepting pre-orders so hurry!!


Wills, come on now, they will be from the property of an anonymous politician and ID'd by TOP PEOPLE in the field, lol!

Subject: Columbia, KY Replies: 11
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Hi meej, welcome aboard!

Tony (hllyhll) has a great list of figs for 6a: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/mountain-figs-cold-hardy-early-ripening-6533258. He is in West Virginia.

I have put together this spreadsheet of hardy figs as well (I'm in zone 6b): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ihfyIwZ8l5DyVMFvTOAthQf65jn-2bRRMPGR57AKSyw/edit#gid=0

Also keep an eye out for local plants!

Subject: Testing: wounded, hormonezed :) and just plain cuttings (pictures) Replies: 14
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Great work, thanks for sharing! I'm trying the wounding/hormone method on some cuttings that are giving me trouble by leafing out before rooting, hopefully it helps.

Subject: 2 Rare Breed Cuttings to go... Replies: 64
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More lies and deception. Classic sociopathic tendencies. I feel bad for anyone who was suckered into giving you money. I'm done with you.

Subject: 2 Rare Breed Cuttings to go... Replies: 64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron4USA
Brent,
for someone to make a comment like yours about figs means they know nothing about them...you need to learn how to compare.
Your comments are no challenge!

Willis...LOL
You make me lough, winter is getting you.
wait till you see my cutting hit the eBay, LOL
Your comment brought more attention to my threads then ever, 
Thank you. :)

I'm hitting the 20 count on the packages.
I should prepare more..


Answer the questions. Who are your experts? How do you know these plants do not need caprification?

You have done a wonderful job avoiding answering these questions....probably because you're making it up. The fact that you won't answer speaks to the truth.

Everyone who has paid good money for these cutting has been ripped off. If you paid you should be asking for your money back.

Subject: Fig - Dalmatie vs Fig - Precoce de Dalmatie Replies: 23
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I was agreeing with peak42's comment. Sorry for the confusion there. I have seen it mentioned that those varieties are the same but it doesn't seem that's the case based on the pictures being posted. Unfortunately, I don't really have an answer for your initial question.

Subject: Fig - Dalmatie vs Fig - Precoce de Dalmatie Replies: 23
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Based on Rofig's pictures of his Precose de Dalmatie and pictures posted of Bornholm/Nexoe I'd have to say they are different, too. Very different leaf shape.

Here are some photos of Bornholm/Nexoe: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/nexoe-fig-variety-from-denmark-4669382

Subject: 2 Rare Breed Cuttings to go... Replies: 64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron4USA
Kelby,
The time will show and hopefully some day you will learn to trust even me
But WHO are your experts? See how many don't believe you? The onus is on you. I feel bad for anyone buying these, who knows what they're getting or if it will even fruit.

Subject: 2 Rare Breed Cuttings to go... Replies: 64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron4USA
Kelby, 
which variety did you want to see the leaves of?
M.C, aka U.Venice Beach fig pictures have leaves...check the thread attached.

But The MotherInLaw I don't have leave pictures but in several weeks I am sure I could provide...since the tree is in our family.
Although 3 of mines in 1Gallon are already awakening...the mother tree is still dormant.

To who ever else is doubting my honesty... I am putting my name on them, that's a burden enough. So, please, if you are not comfortable with it, don't order it and don't soil the thread, show curtesy.


I see you have leaf pictures on the other thread, so I apologize for that. However there is no proof your Venice Beach UNK is what you claim. People are buying this without evidence. Last thing we need is more willy nilly fig naming. You have been caught insulting, lying and threatening before, so your name isn't much to me.

Subject: What else do you root from cuttings? Replies: 51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfig
Hi  anyone know if you could use oak seedlings to graft chestnut  ?  Thank you


Yes, nut grafting.

Subject: 2 Rare Breed Cuttings to go... Replies: 64
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I, too, want to know who these experts are. We don't even have a leaf picture to see.

Subject: What else do you root from cuttings? Replies: 51
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Cane fruits are easy. Blackberry and raspberry.

Subject: 2 Rare Breed Cuttings to go... Replies: 64
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Aaron, I have no wish to start a fight, for starters.

As per your previous statements: "It would be irresponsible from any body to start selling cuttings from a plant they haven't seen fruit of yet. If I were to list anything, I would list the source of my mother tree, the picture of my mother tree including the leaves, ripe fruit, and every extra information possible to help the buyer give confidence in investing in the cutting or the plant. I think it's only fair to expect these things from the seller."  source: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/italian-258-on-ebay-7209032 Post #22.

We don't know who your experts are who ID'd the first fig. It would be best to post leaf samples and all relevant info to let potential buyers decide for themselves, because as far as I'm concerned both are unknowns selling for $10/cutting.

Maybe you have the real thing, maybe not. But please provide all info as you have previously declared you would provide, especially if claiming to have a known variety. It is only fair.

Have a nice weekend.

PS: Just for fun, see posts #13 and #16 linked above: "what would be someone's reaction if they see me list something on eBay (God forbid! LOL) I have never sold anything on eBay in my life." and "I don't think you guys will see me selling on eBay for a long time to come...just the thought gives me the cramps down there...LOL"

6 weeks sure makes a difference.

Subject: caprifig Greek black Replies: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lampo

Kelby, the Mammoni crop will show up (just a few)  later in Summer, after the Profichi..


Thanks Francisco, must have confused mammoni and mamme!

Subject: caprifig Greek black Replies: 6
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Very cool! So that is the mammoni crop, if my understanding of fig sex is correct?

Subject: What else do you grow? Replies: 106
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I'm working on creating a mini-orchard/edible landscape on my 1/3 acre with as much variety as I can get (biodiversity and a long harvest season). I'm trying to grow low/no spray varieties when possible. Everything planted in the last 2.5 years, so I haven't really gotten to full cropping on anything except raspberries.

I have planted...

Trees
- Apples - 2 trees, grafting over several branches in spring.
- Pears - 3 trees, grafting over several branches in spring.
- Shipova and Baby Shipova
- Plums - 2 trees, grafting over several branches in spring.
- Peach - 1 tree
- Pawpaws - 2 seedlings, hoping to graft some named varieties on. Starting lots of seeds too, will probably plant another couple seedlings as the deer don't touch them and they do well in part shade.
- Persimmon - Planting 1 D. kaki in spring, hope to start seed and graft over other D. kaki and virginiana varieties.

Bushes/Berries
- Figs (of course) - 7 in ground and lots in pots/rooting. More to plant next year.
- Blueberries - 8 or so bushes
- Raspberries - A patch of red and yellow and and patch of black. Also a dwarf variety grown in containers.
- Blackberries - 3 bushes
- Strawberries - in big pots
- Serviceberry

Honorable mentions
- Bearberry
- Mahonia repens - if the deer didn't kill it

Fruits are my favorite, but I also have a vegetable garden with the standard fare (tomatoes, peppers, cukes, and zucchini) every year. Going to try growing some dwarf melons this year too.

Mixed in are plants to feed birds (winterberry, viburnums, bayberry etc) and a mostly native pollinator garden for bees/butterflies.

Subject: What the heck is this??? Replies: 40
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Scale, bad case too.

Subject: Cold Hardy Fig List by Flavor Replies: 61
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Some more updates for you folks...adding info on the Breba cropping as applicable and I added a new sheet of info I've gathered on hardier selections of persimmons, another area of interest that I'm just getting into.

Subject: OT: Mysterious 'Pawpaw' Fruit in High Demand Across Japan Replies: 24
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Tim, I read Neal Peterson sold his pawpaw's at DC markets for $5-$8/lb in the early 2000's when he did fresh market. Granted, DC is going to have higher end customers, but I'll bet you can do well in more affluent parts of central PA.

Subject: OT: Mysterious 'Pawpaw' Fruit in High Demand Across Japan Replies: 24
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I've read spreading cottonseed meal at the base of trees during bloom attracts flies as well. It works as a fertilizer as well.

Subject: Seeking Filacciano Bianco cuttings Replies: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COGardener
Kelby, what are some of the conditions that prevent a Breba Crop? And what are your steps for discovering the cause and correcting it?

Scott


Well, my problem is not really having varieties that set a breba crop. From my readings many common fig varieties only set a small crop if any (with notable exceptions). I guess beyond that the biggest problem is the breba buds getting damaged by cold. I've seen 25 F thrown out there as a damage point for breba buds, but some are reporting English Brown Turkey variants handling much, much lower temperatures.

Thus, any varieties I'm going to grow for brebas will be containerized for now to ensure fruit production. I might trial a few in-ground without protection in the future though, most likely English Brown Turkey variants, Filicciano Bianco, and so forth. It is worth mentioning Adriano's Desert King. Look that beauty up if you haven't seen it, huge in-ground tree that he protects and gets fruit from every year in Canada.

Subject: Seeking Filacciano Bianco cuttings Replies: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rafaelissimmo
Got brebas?? :-)


Not yet, that's the problem! I'm obsessively trying to resolve this issue, lol.