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Subject: What's happening? Replies: 14
Posted By: Ken Views: 262
 
In my opinion, JDS is spot on. A note about up potting root bound fig trees: when you free the root ball from the pot, it may help if you put the root ball in a bucket of fresh water to loosen the compacted soil and let the roots start to move away from the trunk. You may want to GENTLY agitate the plant in the water to facilitate some of the untangle. Where you are, it is not too late to up pot to a three-gallon, for example. Search on this forum for soil mixes you may want to use. Note that "not getting enough water" means more than just watering it more. When a plant is very root bound, the water, finding the path of least resistance, goes down the sides of the pot and out the bottom, leaving the plant/roots dry.

As for easy manipulation of photographs: Consider the free download, free program, IrfanView. It's user friendly and has edit and image pull-down menus that can help adjust the dimensions as well as the "size" of your photos. http://download.cnet.com/IrfanView/


Subject: "Stroz" Fig Replies: 21
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,001
 
My Stroz in-ground tree is in full sunlight and was challenged by the early August heatwave. Nevertheless, it is replacing its dropped leaves and appears to be coming along nicely.

Subject: Wire cages and Stopping Nibbling Deer Replies: 10
Posted By: Ken Views: 193
 
Pino - We also have gophers and they will attack anything that is new and not wired. I keep their population under control with those firecracker-looking sticks from the hardware store that gasses them out. They are 100% effective with the gopher that is there. Next week, a new gopher shows up and we have to begin again. But if we manage to get the nest by gassing all of the system at the same time, we can go months and months gopher-free. Before using something as noxious as the gas sticks, I tried JucyFruit chewing gum and a whole variety of other non-toxic things -- nothing else worked.

We have invented an inexpensive baffle to stop cats, rats, squirrels, etc. from climbing up fruit and nut trees. It's good because it can be used  seasonally and stowed in the garage or shed when unneeded. As soon as the patent fellow is done with his work I'll upload a picture. 

Subject: Wire cages and Stopping Nibbling Deer Replies: 10
Posted By: Ken Views: 193
 
But they are so cheap (at the 99ยข or Dollar Tree type stores) that it's not that big a problem to replace them now and again. Then again, you could put an aluminum foil "cone" hat to stop the water from doing too much damage.


Subject: "Stroz" Fig Replies: 21
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,001
 
Looking great!

Subject: OT: Soon-To-Be Ex-Wife Hacked My Lime Tree Replies: 13
Posted By: Ken Views: 721
 
I have one of those on a hillside (about 20 years old) and it periodically suffers similar mistreatment from unsupervised "clean up" people. I don't know about your tree but mine shrugs off this sort of outrage and quickly fills the gaps created. I hope your tree recovers quickly. I doubt that it will suffer anything other than embarrassment from this episode. Indeed, it may reward you with fewer but larger fruit. Good luck.

Subject: How do I grow fig cuttings? Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 397
 
I understand. No worries. Thanks for the clarification.

Subject: How do I grow fig cuttings? Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 397
 
I certainly wasn't knocking any methods at all. I live in a very (very) dry area and FOR ME, Jon's Uline bag and perlite method worked well, as I have to water my cuttings a lot. Also, few things are as inexpensive as perlite and a bulk order of small bags from Uline. But if your methods work for you... great.  Far be it from me, a novice at such things, to suggest anybody follow my example.

I'm starting a small fig orchard in Ojai, California this spring and all of the trees are either air layers from unusual trees I have discovered or from cuttings using Jon's method.  As I believe I said before, the bag method yielded FOR ME a zero failure rate.

Subject: How do I grow fig cuttings? Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 397
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esteban_McFig
The paper towel method is very reliable, BUT take care not to use a multi-ply. The fine roots will work in between the layers and you will not be able to extract the roots without destroying most of them. Plan on watching the rooting progress carefully, i. e., daily--and be prepared to move the newly rooted plant very quickly to growth media. Good luck to you!


The reason I prefer Jon's Uline bag with perlite and a dash of soil in it is that the fragile roots are not injured (as they may be when removing paper or other media from their growing space), and because with the cut corners, it's almost impossible to over water the cutting and rot them out.

Subject: How do I grow fig cuttings? Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 397
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Likeo
Ehhhh, I think I will stick with the bag method

I thought this WAS the bag method.

Subject: Fig of the Day - Black Mission 08-17-13 Replies: 52
Posted By: Ken Views: 5,787
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pitangadiego
Never saw a Black Mission that wasn't infected. But many are 20-40' tall, grow like weeds, and fruit like crazy. Their leaves do show a lot of splotchiness.


My Black Mission fig tree was well over 30 feet tall when I had to hire someone to cut it back. It shows no signs of MFV -- but of course that does not mean it's not there. It's about 16 years old and produces two enormous crops every year, without fail (breba in April; main crop in late August). I have given away a lot of cuttings and I have air layered it mercilessly and it is quite forgiving.

As for the alleged BM in the initial post, I have never seen that many lobes and thumbs on the Black Mission leaves around here. I have a multitude of volunteer caprifigs here and there on the land and they have leaf structures that look like the IP photo.

Subject: Wire cages and Stopping Nibbling Deer Replies: 10
Posted By: Ken Views: 193
 
     For years I had not experienced gopher / mole / vole? etc. problems with my fig trees. For some reason (we can pretend it's global warming if we're so inclined) many of my young fig trees have been killed by having their roots eaten. I had always provided the new fig tree plants with an above ground wire cage to protect them from rabbits, deer, etc., but I never had an under-ground destruction problem.  Now, I never plant any fruit tree without first lining the hole with wire mesh.  Needless to say, I don't use hardware fabric or anything with too tight a weave, as I want the roots to be free to go beyond the mesh. What I found that works really well (and is very cheap) is the rolls of paperless stucco wire. It rusts out in about a year or two and doesn't inhibit the roots from going wherever they want to go. By that time, the gophers may nibble a bit but they can't destroy the entire tree (so it seems to me). 

Regarding deer: if deer are eating your garden, I found that taking a bar of Irish Spring bath soap (very strong smell that I wouldn't allow in my home) is so offensive to the sensitive olfactory sensibilities of deer that they won't come near a place with a few bars handing around.  I use an ice pick and poke a hole through the center of each bar of soap and then run twine through the hole. I hang the bars from the twine right at deer nostril level and haven't seen a deer in the yard since.  Irish Spring soap is extremely cheap, available at many of those "less than a dollar" type stores.  After dust, dirt, etc. collect on the bars, I wash them and they're good to go (for years!).  

Subject: How do I grow fig cuttings? Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 397
 

I am no expert, so when I started reading posts on here I had never had reliable success rooting fig cuttings or much else. Some rooted, many did not. I tried the newspaper wrap, lasagna style processes, etc. It wasn't until I found Jon's Uline bag post [ http://figs4fun.com/Rooting_Bag_New_Style.html ] that I could count the number of cuttings I was going to start and know the number of pots I would need once they all rooted. Discouraged by other methods, I had resigned myself to air layering only. Needless to say, that requires time and money to travel (at least twice) to make house calls on the mother tree -- often in other states.


Using Jon's Uline bag method has worked literally perfectly for me. That said, I am in a part of the world where things grow extremely well anyway (Southern California), so my beginner's luck might not transfer to your (anybody else's) situation.

It works particularly well with slender young cuttings but I've had success (eventually) with the thick sticks as well. I find that the thick stick cuttings, when rooted using this method, are particularly robust and are ready to go into the ground much sooner.

Off-topic:  CAGES !!!!  For years I had not experienced gopher / mole / vole? etc. problems with my fig trees. For some reason (we can pretend it's global warming if we're so inclined) many of my young fig trees have been killed by having their roots eaten. I had always provided the new fig tree plants with an above ground wire cage to protect them from rabbits, deer, etc., but I never had an under-ground destruction problem.  Now, I never plant any fruit tree without first lining the hole with wire mesh.  Needless to say, I don't use hardware fabric or anything with too tight a weave, as I want the roots to be free to go beyond the mesh. What I found that works really well (and is very cheap) is the rolls of paperless stucco wire. It rusts out in about a year or two and doesn't inhibit the roots from going wherever they want to go. By that time, the gophers may nibble a bit but they can't destroy the entire tree (so it seems to me). 

I think I'll post this as a new topic as well.


Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
All air-layers doing well in their respective pots and in the ground. It  was a lucky season.

Subject: Identify Southern Texas Fig? Replies: 2
Posted By: Ken Views: 119
 
Thank you for your reply, Dennis. If you click on the picture, both the fig and the leaves are shown.

The picture was taken on June 30, 2015 when I was visiting Texas.
FigCloser.jpg 
figLeafCloser.jpg


Subject: Identify Southern Texas Fig? Replies: 2
Posted By: Ken Views: 119
 
Saw this tree in Southern Texas. This picture was taken the end of June. At first, I thought it was a black mission, but somehow that didn't seem right either. Any ideas what variety it may be? 

Thanks.

Texas_Fig_Tree.jpg


Subject: "Stroz" Fig Replies: 21
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,001
 
"Stoz" cuttings rooting gang-busters!  Very healthy variety so far.

Subject: Morality Question Replies: 18
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,258
 
The phrase you are looking for is "a joint purchasing agreement."  That is different from two sellers agreeing to fix prices, of course, and JPAs are common in business.  Agree on the maximum bid the two of you would be willing to make, split the costs and goods obtained. 

-Ken

Subject: "Stroz" Fig Replies: 21
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,001
 
Welcome, Hanbury House.

I'm excited to try this variety.  I love really crunchy fig seeds.  Hopes running high on this one.

-Ken

Subject: "Stroz" Fig Replies: 21
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,001
 
Thanks, Paul.  I got a couple of cuttings to see what they're like. 

Subject: "Stroz" Fig Replies: 21
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,001
 
Anyone have any information on the "Stroz" Fig?

All I have is a square of paper reading, ""Stroz Fig  Green with purple stripes, white flesh, red pulp, crunchy seeds. Eating or jam."

From the CRFG meeting in Encino, California, today.


Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
Frank - (and others)

I met with the owner of the fig tree's property last week and we agreed on a very sunny location for the air layer's planting.  She is in a canyon, so it took some seasonal calculations to find the perfect (sort of) spot.  Although there may not be a "perfect" location with water available, the location we identified is vastly superior to the mother tree who, as stated above, is in shade pretty much all the time.


Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
Aaron - PM for you just now.  I am beginning to think that you were right about the more plausible identity of this fig. Melinzana Calabrese is more likely than Longue d'Aout, I suspect.

Subject: Very simple air layering without plastic. Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,520
 
UPDATE.

Both air layers are now out of their respective pots and in the ground.  One is in Austin Texas and the other is in Ojai California; both are doing well. 

We drove the Austin one back there as part of a vacation, so that small tree probably has seen more National Parks than any other mission fig tree.  



Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
Freshly_Up-potted and trimmed Longue d'Aout.jpg 

Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
Thanks, Frank.  I have been blessed with some good luck, fig wise these days. -K.

Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
I have an air layer in process and I have three very happy trees from cuttings in one-gallon trade pots, awaiting further development.  All cuttings rooted, which is nice.

Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
This is true, but the leaf lobes seem less plump.  Send me an email (or private message)with the Venice Beach location and I'll go take a look (I lived in Venice for nearly two decades -- probably as long as the tree!).  I lived on both Navy St. and on Brooks Avenue.  Is the fig on a walk street?


Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
Your idea was a good one.  There was a side-branch that needed to be removed anyway, so I was allowed to air-layer it.

Side_Branch.jpg 


Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
Frank - I do a bit of air layering of fig (and other fruit trees) from time to time and might bring over my air layering kit on Saturday.  There are a lot of places with full sun I can put the clone(s).  And I suspect you're right: the fig gets way too much shade, even in late June.  The only reason the grapes are doing well is because they've taken over the flat roof of the house!  Good idea, Frank.  Thanks.

Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
I'm going over there this coming Saturday.  I'll bring my camera (the previous photos were taken with a borrowed cell phone).  The taste of the fruit has been excellent over the years, albeit infrequent.  I don't believe the infrequency is related to the tree itself, but to the lack of water, pruning, and most of all, sunshine.  This year it's getting more water because it's next to some grape vines that are producing.

Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
Nate - The leaves on the one I visited today had very plump lobes by comparison.

Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
No doubt it was purchased from a local nursery a couple of decades ago.  It was a slow developer until about two years ago.  Seems to be producing a lot these days.  The main crop looks to be substantially greater than recent years. 

Looks sort of like Bass' "breba on the Calabrese fig" link:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/calabrese-fig-breba-4729581


Subject: Unknown Variety Replies: 32
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,408
 
Can anyone identify this fig tree variety?

It is in a relative's back yard (Southern California); it was planted about twenty years ago; the pictures were taken this afternoon (June 17, 2014).

Thanks.

-Ken

   Unknown_Fig_KEN_Photo_2.jpg  Unknown_Fig_KEN_Photo_1.jpg  Unknown_Fig_KEN_Photo_0.jpg 

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Subject: Air layer cutting time has come Replies: 4
Posted By: Ken Views: 357
 
On the other hand, you could freshen the air layer and leave it in place a couple of months.  So long as there is sufficient space/moisture, I'd guess that the subject limb would be happy to hang in there a while.  Perhaps a watering and some fresh moss -- in a larger propagation package? 

Subject: Fig Tree Bonsai Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,401
 
Thanks, Frank.  I will try that.

Subject: Fig Tree Bonsai Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,401
 
If one is willing to work hard at it, and if one isn't afraid to fail, Bonsai attempts can be fun, if not in the final analysis, rewarding.  I like this video by Graham W. Potter of Kaizen Bonsai (UK), as it shows how potential Bonsai materials can be collected from a variety of places. 



Pursuant to that, next month I am meeting with a old friend in Santa Barbara who has a very large fig tree (unstated variety) growing between two residential lots.  I presume each owner built his or her fence on his or her side of the tree.  In any event, based on the descriptions of the tree, I plan to air layer several parts of it so as to place its clone in a more readily available location for my friend, who claims that the figs are wonderful.  While I'm there, I will try to air layer away a portion at the base of the tree that might be useful for Bonsai development.

Ken.

Subject: Fig Tree Bonsai Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,401
 
Well said.  I have limited experience (read: success) with Bonsai.  I have the patience to do what I think I'm supposed to do, but I lack sufficient artistic skill to make the end result look like anything but a small, sad, chopped-up disappointment.  As for having a "finished" Bonsai, I suspect most of them don't reach that stage in their first century or so.  I have a Bonsai mission fig in-progress.  If I never mention it again, ya'll will know why. 

Ken.

Subject: Getting a Paper Towel Perfectly Damp Replies: 13
Posted By: Ken Views: 907
 
Seems like you have a lot of spores lurking in your neck of the sands.  I'm not particularly fastidious and our climate (Calabasas area of San Fernando Valley) certainly is more humid than where you are, and I don't get a lot of mold-events. 

Do you think that there might be an issue with temperature?  I tend to keep all my propagation materials at the very low end of temperature acceptability.  When I get antsy and want to speed things along by putting them near the hot water heater, for example, that's when I get the mold invasions. 

I liked the idea of the cinnamon.  I'll have to try that.  I use a lot of cayenne pepper (cheap Kroger brand, giant economy size -- barely usable for cooking) and sprinkle it around my vegetable garden to let the local fauna know that they have to be prepared to play in the big leagues if they want to eat my veggies. 

Back on topic [sorry]: Perhaps you need to give your work area and tools (box cutters, razor blades, plastic and glass items, etc.) a quick rubdown with 93 percent alcohol every once in a while.  Once the spores settle in to an area or find a home on tweezers, scissors, mat knife, and so on, rarely do they leave without drastic measures.  I've never boiled moss before re-using it.  Perhaps I should, as you pointed out: there could be spores lurking in there as well.

Ken.



Subject: Very simple air layering without plastic. Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,520
 
Thanks, NYC.  I think I should have shown a picture of the root ball.  Live and learn, I suppose.

Ken.

Subject: Very simple air layering without plastic. Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,520
 
Yes, I agree.

The moss is sort of a rooting hormone and, in some places, limbs left in contact with the ground root all on their own.

But since I've been using the hormone powder and have had a lot of success, I probably will keep using it until I run out and decide I'm too lazy to drive down to get more.

Ken.

Subject: Very simple air layering without plastic. Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,520
 
@armando: The foil is filled with very very wet moss to begin with -- so that a squeeze in the middle of the packet oozes water out each end.  The twine is tight but not excessively so.  The drying wouldn't result from leakage, I don't think, as much as from the roots using the water to do their thing.  I haven't ever added water, but if the root development took more than six weeks or so I would probably just use a needle and syringe or poke a turkey baster under the upper-end twine.

@James: Yeah, squirrels have been a big problem around here... until one of my neighbors put out a bait station with very weak anti-coagulant in it.  The squirrels have to feed on the stuff day after day before they go off and self-bury.  We have a lot of coyotes and wild cats around here so people tend not to use any poison that might kill one of the natural predators.  A couple years back, however, the whole neighborhood was swarming with them.  I tend to sprinkle cayenne pepper (powder) here and there to discourage squirrels and rabbits as well.

@HarveyC: I have several fake owls -- the ones with the heads that rotate with the shifting winds.  I suppose one way to discourage bird-pecking at the foil bundle would be to "whip" the bundle in the twine -- not so hard as to really squeeze it, but enough to frustrate the birds. 

Thanks, everybody, for the welcome and kind comments.

Ken.

Subject: Very simple air layering without plastic. Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,520
 
TechPac's RootBoost with Hormodin 1 
It works great but I suspect the folks who say no hormone is really necessary might be right anyway.  It might just be a matter of time / speed of rooting.

Ken.

Subject: Very simple air layering without plastic. Replies: 19
Posted By: Ken Views: 1,520
 
Thanks, Frank!

I've been reading some of the posts here.  Seems like a nice place with great people.

Ken.

Subject: Very simple air layering without plastic. Replies: 19
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Black Mission Fig, San Fernando Valley, Southern California.

Uses only hormone, moss, and foil -- no plastic.

Works well for me.

Ken.